The Original Stoners . . .

[foomar]

Chanced apon this googling for something entirely different , this small book is mentioned around the forums but not that well known , really worth downing and reading.

ON THE PREPARATIONS OF THE INDIAN HEMP, OR GUNJAH

W.B O,Shaughnessy 1839


This description reminds me of last xmas.

Gunjah is used for smoking alone -- one rupee weight, 180 grains, and a little dried tobacco are rubbed together in the palm of the hand with a few drops of water. This suffices for three persons. A little tobacco is placed in the pipe first, then a layer of the prepared gunjah, then more tobacco, and the fire above all.
Four or five persons usually join in this debauch. The hookah is passed round, and each person takes a single draught.

Intoxication ensues almost instantly, and from one draught to the unaccustomed -- within half an hour, and after four or five inspirations to those more practised in the vice. The effects differ from those occasioned by the sidhee. Heaviness, laziness, and agreeable reveries ensue, but the person can be readily roused, and is able to discharge routine occupations, such as pulling the punkab, waiting at table,

So you could smoke yourself into a stupour but still be a punka waller , shame that modern employers take a different line.


This souds like a newbie whiteout after an SD bong hit , next time i,ll get the leeches out.

Before quitting this subject, it is desirable to notice the singular form of delirium which the incautious use of the Hemp preparations often occasions, especially among young men first commencing the practice. Several such cases have presented themselves to my notice. They are as peculiar as the 'delirium tremens,' which succeeds the prolonged abuse of spiritous liquors, but are quite distinct from any other species of delirium with which I am acquainted.

This state is at once recognized by the strange balancing gait of the patient's; a contant rubbing of the hands; perpetual giggling; and a propensity to caress and chafe the feet of all bystanders of whatever rank.
The eye wears an expression of cunning and merriment which can scarcely be mistaken. In a few cases, the patients are violent; in many highly aphrodisiac; in all that I have seen, voraciously hungry. There is no increased heat or frequency of circulation, or any appearance of inflammation or congestion, and the skin and general functions are in a perfectly natural state.

A blister to the nape of the neck, leeches to the temples, and nauseating doses of tartar emetic with saline purgatives have rapidly dispelled the symptoms in all the cases I have met with, and have restored the patient to perfect health

Original preps for med use add to the interest , nothing really changed much in 170 years.
But the human experiments might not be acceptable now.

 

[Easy7]

I do not mix tobacco with weed or hash, tastes awful. I prefer my smoke to be distinct.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

When I overdo it and feel the compulsion to caress and chafe the feet of bystanders I've given leeches a try. I found that before they could drink their fill they usually start giggling and it causes them to fall off my temples. Maybe I should try blistering the nape of my neck next time? My girlfriend does like it though when I want to rub her feet.

 

[foomar]

Here in the UK it has always been mixed with baccy from wayback when only solids were available , for cost and ease of burning , most tokers still mix of all age groups .

Now able to smoke or vape pure bud or concentrates , i still prefer smokeing bud with around a third mild tobacco mixed in , and still find plenty of flavour.

But a single packet cigarette makes me feel sick and dizzy , that stuff is shite but a lot of kids use it.


This seems to be the original recipe for space cookies , will get mrs Foomar to do a batch , if i can find a pipkin at Tesco,s.

The Majoon, or Hemp confection, is a compound of sugar, butter, flour, milk and sidhee or bang. The process has been repeatedly performed before me by Ameer, the proprietor of a celebrated place of resort for Hemp devotees in Calcutta, and who is considered the best artist in his profession. Four ounces of sidhee, and an equal quantity of ghee are placed in an earthen or well-tinned vessel, a pint of water added, and the whole warmed over a charcoal fire.

The mixture is constantly stirred until the water all boils away, which is known by the crackling noise of the melted butter on the sides of the vessel. The mixture is then removed from the fire, squeezed through cloth while hot -- by which an oleaginous solution of the active principles and colouring matter of the Hemp is obtained -- and the leaves, fibres, &c. remaining on the cloth are thrown away.

The green oily solution soon concretes into a buttery mass, and is then well washed by the hand with soft water, so long as the water becomes coloured. The colouring matter and an extractive substance are thus removed, and a very pale green mass, of the consistence of simple ointment, remains. The washings are thrown away: Ameer says that these are intoxicating, and produce constriction of the throat, great pain, and very disagreeable and dangerous symptoms.

The operator then takes 2 lbs. of sugar, and adding a little water, places it in a pipkin over the fire. When the sugar dissolves and froths, two ounces of milk are added; a thick scum rises and is removed; more milk and a little water are added from time to time, and the boiling continued about an hour, the solution being carefully stirred until it becomes an adhesive clear syrup, ready to solidify on a cold surface; four ounces of tyre (new milk dried before the sun) in fine powder, are now stirred in, and lastly the prepared butter of Hemp is introduced, brisk stirring being continued for a few minutes.

A few drops of attur of roses are then quickly sprinkled in, and the mixture poured from the pipkin on a flat cold dish or slab. The mass concretes immediately into a thin cake, which is divided into small lozenge-shaped pieces. A seer thus prepared sells for four rupees: one drachm by weight will intoxicate a beginner; three drachms one experienced in its use: the taste is sweet, and the odour very agreeable.

 

[jayjayfrank]

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this is what all the hippies mean when they say "if The Man let the The Herb be Legal then The People would Rise Up"

i have seen my father wrap leaf tobacco in a dried corn husk and tie the ends with a fiber string. smoke a cigarette or smoke weed. rarely smoke both at the same time. in the old world the only thing they do is wrap that shit together. they also love alcohol and have never had prohibition. make some really good hash tho.

 

[foomar]

Shades of reefer madness here , but some of its right.

Alluding to its popular uses, the author dwells on the eventual evil consequences of the indulgence; -- weakness of the digestive organs first ensues, followed by flatulency, indigestion, swelling of the limbs and face, change of complexion, diminution of sexual vigor, loss of teeth, heaviness, cowardice, depraved and wicked ideas, scepticism in religious tenet; licentiousness and ungodliness are also enumerated in the catalogue of deplorable results.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

The original stoners were probably thousands of years ago, not one hundred and change.

There is written record of the Chinese using medicinal Cannabis in two thousand and something BC.

There was also some mummy found in the Gobi desert with basketfuls of herb in his tomb and I believe they dated that to earlier than written record.

In actuality I'm picking on your good post just because of the title

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Oh and tobacco smokers are just as snooty about cannabis in their cigarettes.

Any smoker can be just as picky as the next.

I smoke both and sometimes it's together...

Just remember that pointing fingers shouldn't feel good.

 

[foomar]

The original stoners were probably thousands of years ago,

The older references are vague compared to the detail in this one , and it sounds exactly the same as i saw in India in the fifties , probably little changed now.

Its also a primary source for a lot that was written since and is often quoted , worth reading to see the original , for the colonial attitude and anecdotal experiments alone , giveing a young baby 15 grains of resin and trying to cure rabies with it is shocking to modern medical standards and ethics , experimenting on poor people in third world countries to see if its safe or usefull for Europeans.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Whoa, I would think that overdosing on resin while tripping on rabies would be a rather unpleasant experience, at least up till when you passed out. But you'll never know until you try, or watch someone else ...

 

[jayjayfrank]

so maybe if i learn sanskrit i can find a whole bunch of ancient india pot brownie recipes.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I wonder what their take on BHO would be....

 

[Hydro-Soil]

This souds like a newbie whiteout after an SD bong hit , next time i,ll get the leeches out.

I have the SD cut from the SD boys. The THC is off the charts but the cannabinoid profile is soooo whacked. Yep... white-out territory!

LOL

Stay Safe!

edit: wow... too drunk. haven't been drunk in a looong time, but distilled liquor is the only thing that combats the azamax/azatrol/aza-sol fire in my belly from the local azadactrin contaminated meds. *sigh*

 

[mrcreosote]

I'll bet someday they'll find a 35,000 year old Neanderthal bamboo bong.

"Dude, don't give the shit to those noobs across the valley...they'll hump all our wimmin."

End of story.

 

[foomar]

This majoon sounds like one for the ladies.

Ameer states that there are seven or eight majoon makers in Calcutta -- that all classes of persons, including the lower Portugese , and especially their females, consume the drug; that it is most fascinating in its effects, producing extatic happiness, a persuasion of high rank, a sensation of flying -- voracious appetite, and intense aphrodisiac desire. He denies that its continued use leads to madness, impotence, or to the numerous evil consequences described by the Arabic and Persian physicians.

 

[Payaso]

Let's not forget those ancient Jews who made 'holy annointing oil' and would drench their locks and hair with the stuff - leading to mystical visions and communications with 'god.' And of course there was Moses and his famous 'burning bush' which must have been one hell of a smoke out!

It is always amazing to me the accomplishments of 'stoners.'

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Let's not forget those ancient Jews who made 'holy annointing oil' and would drench their locks and hair with the stuff - leading to mystical visions and communications with 'god.' And of course there was Moses and his famous 'burning bush' which must have been one hell of a smoke out!

It is always amazing to me the accomplishments of 'stoners.'

Moses rocked the ganj. Cannabis incense burning in a tiny hut. Braziers burning with cannabis/herbs thrown on it. He shaved his body and slathered it in holy anointing oil then went into the hut to "Speak with god".

Perfect recipe for getting 'Clear' in the head. REALLY clear. No wonder he talked to god. LOL

Anyone in the tribe who made/used holy anointing oil without being a priest was kicked out of the tribe.

Jesus also rocked the ganj. Jesus=The Anointed One
Anyone who slathered their body with cannabis oil and preached freedom is totally ok by me. My understanding of Jesus is completely different than what I was taught growing up and what nearly everyone around me believes. *shrug*

Cannabis is awesome for the human body/brain/soul. Keep spreading the word!

Stay Safe!

 

[jenery]

Just read yesterday A History of Cannabis by E. Russo, there are some beautiful medicinal recipes translated from old Egyptian papyruses that refer to cannabis around 1500 BC.


today i am doing some cannabutter so thanks for sharing this article, very inspiring!

 

[mrcreosote]

Moses rocked the ganj.

No shit. 40 years in the desert.

"FUCK DUDE! We were in this same place last year."

"Ummm, Yeah, well... like, it could happen to anyone, ya know?"