Wow, I wish there was a place like that around here.
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QuietStorm
Member
Is anyone using Rez's recipe with the hempy's? Either in coco or perlite? If so how is it going?
osecretgardeno
Member
lol thats a ton of vermiculite ... dont forget its a 4:1 ratio (or about that) so if you have 40 lbs of perlite, then you only need 10 lbs of vermiculite ...
Luigi4Bud
Member
it was exactly that kind of place. It thrives on providing to big farms and ranchers.
osecretgardeno
Member
I think so ... can you go bigger?
My rule of thumb for hempy is 2-3 gal per month of veg ... i find they need less room in general than soil.
Only thing I worry about is the exponential root growth of a vegging plant. I can only assume a 6 month root mass is NOT equal to 6 1 month root masses. SO, if you can go bigger, go bigger.
Are you planning on ScrOG for that? I just got my t5, I am loving it, I'm about to order another.
peace, sg
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djam
which t5 set up did you get ? i need one so bad for veg and clones .
what's up man. I'm planning on LST'ing her, I could put a screen into play rather then LST....I've been on a LST kick as of late and have three that I've got all tied up right now. But would not mind trying the scrog. If I go by the 2-3gal/month of veg, then 6 month veg would be 12-18 gal. needed.
I knew you'd like that t5...I had one up for a while and just put up a second one and it's fantastic.
djam-I use a 4' t5 for clones and mothers and it does real well.
Xare
Active member
Vermiculite is an essential component to reach the full potential of Hempy Buckets.
If you use 100 % perlite then you have noticed that your roots grow in a "Mat" just above the water line.
The reason for adding Vermiculite or Coco to the perlite is to hold some nutrient rich moisture in the root zone.
100% perlite drys out from the top down too fast. And roots do not grow throughout the entire root zone. They grow in a layer just above the rez.
I know this because I did a Side by Side comparison of hempy's
My 75% perlite and 25 % vermiculite hempys did much better then 100 % perlite hempys because the roots have alot more space to grow.
When you mix in verm or coco you create a larger root zone for your plants roots to propagate.
That directly translates to bigger and happier plants. Simple Fact
My ratio of 3 perlite to 1 verm is optimal for the small narrow hempy's I grow in. But for larger amounts of media that dry out slower it would be suitable to use a 4:1 or 5:1 ratio
But dont leave out the verm completely, its there for a reason.
Hey Xare. This is going to sound dumb....but I agree and disagree with you. I believe that the vermiculite is there for a reason, but I too did a side by side and found that my roots in the 100% perlite were just as massive & throughout as the one with the 70/30 mix. I don't know anything about coco so I can't say anything about that... just sayin'
indicameds
Member
I too have seen grow with transplants to a larger pot and when the pure perlite was removed the roots seemed no different from the top to the bottom of the pot. The root mas was just as good IMO. But I dont have much expirence with hempys. But from what i know of perlit is that it is course and will hold some moisture, Wether its in the top or bottom of the pot and the moisture it holds will be the nutrient rich moisture you pour in when feeding your girls.
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noone4u
Xare
Active member
No, its not bullshit.
Its my conclusion after evaluating the data of a side by side grow in hempy's to compare the different media mixes.
Lets talk about hempy bucket root structure.
You all know that the tap roots go down to the rez to drink up the water. But its also the job of the feeder roots to uptake the majority of the nutes that the plant needs. These type of roots do not grow in the water like tap roots do. Roots have specialized jobs. Tap roots go down for water, and feeder roots look for food.
In 100% perlite hempy's the feeder roots are forced to grow in a mat or layer above the rez water line. The perlite drains and dries out and the roots make this moist spot above the water line its home. The roots become Bound.
But the Job of the Vermiculite is to hold nute rich water in the area above the rez.
This makes for a larger moist root zone above the rez and more volume of roots means bigger and happier plants.
Our goal to optimize the space we grow in. And I stand by the idea that starting with two pots of the same size you can get a larger root zone for the roots to propagate if you utilize the verm correctly.
And as I said before, a larger root zone makes for better, happier plants and thus more yield.
Its my conclusion after evaluating the data of a side by side grow in hempy's to compare the different media mixes.
Lets talk about hempy bucket root structure.
You all know that the tap roots go down to the rez to drink up the water. But its also the job of the feeder roots to uptake the majority of the nutes that the plant needs. These type of roots do not grow in the water like tap roots do. Roots have specialized jobs. Tap roots go down for water, and feeder roots look for food.
In 100% perlite hempy's the feeder roots are forced to grow in a mat or layer above the rez water line. The perlite drains and dries out and the roots make this moist spot above the water line its home. The roots become Bound.
But the Job of the Vermiculite is to hold nute rich water in the area above the rez.
This makes for a larger moist root zone above the rez and more volume of roots means bigger and happier plants.
Our goal to optimize the space we grow in. And I stand by the idea that starting with two pots of the same size you can get a larger root zone for the roots to propagate if you utilize the verm correctly.
And as I said before, a larger root zone makes for better, happier plants and thus more yield.
CaptainTrips
Active member
Well, I have limited experience with hempy buckets, but certainly in my own cases, 100% perlite. Old plants that I pulled out had a root ball that basically used the entire "bucket", not just a mat down by the reservoir. My buckets are rather small, and only for mother plants, so maybe that has something to do with it. Perhaps in a 5 gallon bucket what you are saying would be true.
bostrom155
Active member
Like i said before their is more than a thousand ways to grow our plants. That said I love and occasionally do side by side growing to check things out. However, I did not notice any difference. Alot of the V eventually got wash down towards the bottom, not all but some. I use V in my Perlite/V cloner. I have been thinking about adding coco or EWC to my buckets. I just started experimenting with coco too and speaking of side by side, this coco shit is impressive so far. Thanks for sharing eveybody.
Have I mentioned that I LOVE this thread.
Where is Hempy and Delta for this little debate. I think Delta has all the bases covered on on little system
And hopefully Hempy will come along as well
Have I mentioned that I LOVE this thread.
Where is Hempy and Delta for this little debate. I think Delta has all the bases covered on on little system
And hopefully Hempy will come along as well
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Dalaihempy
Like i said before their is more than a thousand ways to grow our plants. That said I love and occasionally do side by side growing to check things out. However, I did not notice any difference. Alot of the V eventually got wash down towards the bottom, not all but some. I use V in my Perlite/V cloner. I have been thinking about adding coco or EWC to my buckets. I just started experimenting with coco too and speaking of side by side, this coco shit is impressive so far. Thanks for sharing eveybody.
Have I mentioned that I LOVE this thread.
Where is Hempy and Delta for this little debate. I think Delta has all the bases covered on on little system
And hopefully Hempy will come along as well
bostrom why even post something like this honestly how do you expect me to react to a post like this im so tierd of peoples bull shit you can say what you like along with Delta fact remains that no matter how hard some try i was the guy that came along and posted about this method i was the guy that got laft at and i am the guys that still gets a hard time by types like you years later for what ? Shearing a method i came up with experemented fine tuned and past it on to others that i thort others may like to use it also that now are very happy useing it and like me if following my basic formula are achiveing great resolts to.
Debate what is there to debate about what you cant follow a basic formula a newbie can run with and achive great resolts with and so many are or you like others that seek self importance that i my self dont seek or cear about fact is from day one i joined the online community all i set out to achive was gain info the missing peaces wich was strain and linigue info for the most part and shear my 30 years of hands on experence nothing more reality is unlike many i have no intrest in fame or furtune or do i give a flying fuck about what you or delta or many others have to say to harsh no just being honest here.
You need to understand you treat people with respect you will get it back treat people how you yourself would like to be treated and watch the diffrence my friend theres some free and good advice from me to you .
To the rest in this post sorry but this shit needs to stop im so over it if you need advice just pm me i will answear you soon as i can i will be starting a coco post to show you how i run the hempy buckets with coco and finely fine tuned dialed them in to were im realy happy and loveing coco i will post a link and will also add photos with simple basic info on how i do it and agine if you need to ask me any thing or need any advice i can help with im only a pm away.
osecretgardeno
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