The monsanto of pot? Wtf?

[rolandomota]

I know some of you will get really mad with this load of crap. Basically someone is working on utility patents to corner the weed market and charge you for growing "their" genetics...let the shit talking begin this is no conspiracy theory... https://www.gq.com/story/the-great-pot-monopoly-mystery

 

[Gry]

Very scary, qualifies as the stuff night mares are made of.

 

[Emperortaima]

Lol only dumb asses will mess with gmo cannabis I'll stick to the reliability of legitimate breeders who do it for the community and not to try and become millionaires shit there's probably already gmo seeds out n about I wouldn't be surprised

 

[cryptop]

Mickey Martin posted about this guy on his blog around 2011, then reposted in this blog post in 2015: http://weedactivist.com/2015/02/the-truth-about-aundre-speciale/

Shawn is an Iranian multi millionaire investor and he and Montel are close personal friends from the MS foundation and Montel is more than just the face guy. Montel is heavily involved behind closed doors with shawn. They have a 2-1 controlling interest on the internal board of directors...Shawn told me saturday that every patient is overdosing themselves on cannabis and they are going to change that...Shawn keeps saying they are meeting with Eric Holder and that he and montel have had this plan to roll out a nation wide model (that the feds will accept) that they can then take global. Shawn own a packaging company in Italy that is closely associated with Revlon…they also own a medical packaging business on top of many other business.

I don’t know if you have had any contact with Shawn Sedaghat or Jim Zaun…they are the management company and Shawn calls all the shots… jim led him to believe he wanted to meet to settle up the money owed…instead he gave BS excuses and tried to extrapulate genetic breeding info. for his CBD strain. classy eh?

 

[Drewsif]

Pot is already GMO. Thats why there's no trip weed on shelves. All modified for faster growth and higher yield. Indica made trendy and popular because of easier growth. Sensi popular because they don't want you having seeds. Fem pushed for obvious reasons.

Im on the fence about patented strains. Because it really sucks that local dispensaries can grow m39 from seed with HiBrix Blueberry Juice and tell people its Pre-69 Ethiopian Blueberry Kush. Its become a major waste of time for anyone wanting to actually try strains, to find out there are no strains (in AZ), just claims and fraud.

Anything that will help dispensary victims realize that Blue Dream grown with Sour Dee and Kushy Kush perfume is not Sour Diesel just because the dispensary says so, will be a good thing. Prove the dispensaries and growers are lying, prove they are selling fake strains soaked in 3rd party terp blends, just like the wax is done.

 

[trichrider]

whoa that set me back on my heels.
wasn't SkunkmanSam soliciting genetic samples from anyone and anywhere?
phylo or some related name.
is this what they were/are up to?

not accusing you Sam, but the optics are bad. can you blame me?

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/03/25/...annabis-genome-changing-weed-game-436526.html

http://www.phylosbioscience.com/cannabis-genotyping/

 

[Emperortaima]

Pot is already GMO. Thats why there's no trip weed on shelves. All modified for faster growth and higher yield. Indica made trendy and popular because of easier growth. Sensi popular because they don't want you having seeds. Fem pushed for obvious reasons.

Im on the fence about patented strains. Because it really sucks that local dispensaries can grow m39 from seed with HiBrix Blueberry Juice and tell people its Pre-69 Ethiopian Blueberry Kush. Its become a major waste of time for anyone wanting to actually try strains, to find out there are no strains (in AZ), just claims and fraud.

Anything that will help dispensary victims realize that Blue Dream grown with Sour Dee and Kushy Kush perfume is not Sour Diesel just because the dispensary says so, will be a good thing. Prove the dispensaries and growers are lying, prove they are selling fake strains soaked in 3rd party terp blends, just like the wax is done.

The quick flowering is because of selection I believe

 

[shaggyballs]

Cannabis Sativa, Inc. Signs Purchase Agreement for Patent Pending Hybrid Marijuana Strain CTA and Option to Acquire KUSH for $1 Million

I feel we need a lawyer here to get to the bottom of this.

Oh, and the US government owns a patent on cannabis also.

 

[Lester Beans]

Pot is already GMO. Thats why there's no trip weed on shelves. All modified for faster growth and higher yield. Indica made trendy and popular because of easier growth. Sensi popular because they don't want you having seeds. Fem pushed for obvious reasons.

Im on the fence about patented strains. Because it really sucks that local dispensaries can grow m39 from seed with HiBrix Blueberry Juice and tell people its Pre-69 Ethiopian Blueberry Kush. Its become a major waste of time for anyone wanting to actually try strains, to find out there are no strains (in AZ), just claims and fraud.

Anything that will help dispensary victims realize that Blue Dream grown with Sour Dee and Kushy Kush perfume is not Sour Diesel just because the dispensary says so, will be a good thing. Prove the dispensaries and growers are lying, prove they are selling fake strains soaked in 3rd party terp blends, just like the wax is done.

Cannabis is not GMO. You are confusing breeding with a genetically modified organism.

 

[zeke99]

warning: off-topic response

Cannabis is not GMO. You are confusing breeding with a genetically modified organism.

That is correct, Lester. It's a huge difference, one that (and I'm not accusing the poster that you responded to of doing this) the proponents of GMO in BigAG, quite often rely upon to convince people that GMO is a safe technology.

 

[Grizz]

as I see it geno typing and strain certification is the only way to stop these big growers and dispensarys from renaming there mids to top self strains just so they can get top self price. If a breeder trade marks his strains and gets them geno typed its even better , it keeps people from stealing his work, I am sure many disagree, they want everything for free and think its like it was 10 yrs ago, It's big business now, that's what legalization did and its wont stop, to much money in the business, everyone was crying legalize it now there crying about the money people like monsanto

 

[Satyros]

I'd be curious about the specific patents, like the three that Holmes claims have already been granted (according to the GQ article).

In my understanding, if a product is not federally legal, it cannot be patented. So for example, the "Acapulco Gold" patent that came out in the 70s, that was on a suntan lotion. Sure, someone would patent the name and/or genetics if they could, but can they (currently)?

Aside from that minor sticking point, I have no particular interest in feeding the wealthy, or letting them control everything. It's like Coca-Cola operating organic brands since they feel they deserve a "market share" of something they had nothing to do with, and was basically opposed to them.

 

[herbgreen]

R. Clarke speaks to some of this in this podcast from cannabis connection

https://soundcloud.com/the-cannabis-connection/robert-connell-clarke-12302016

 

[Grizz]

I'd be curious about the specific patents, like the three that Holmes claims have already been granted (according to the GQ article).

In my understanding, if a product is not federally legal, it cannot be patented. So for example, the "Acapulco Gold" patent that came out in the 70s, that was on a suntan lotion. Sure, someone would patent the name and/or genetics if they could, but can they (currently)?

Aside from that minor sticking point, I have no particular interest in feeding the wealthy, or letting them control everything. It's like Coca-Cola operating organic brands since they feel they deserve a "market share" of something they had nothing to do with, and was basically opposed to them.

your right, no federal trade marks for cannabis yet but perfectly legal to do so in states,

 

[Orrie]

Cannabis Sativa, Inc. Signs Purchase Agreement for Patent Pending Hybrid Marijuana Strain CTA and Option to Acquire KUSH for $1 Million

I feel we need a lawyer here to get to the bottom of this.

Oh, and the US government owns a patent on cannabis also.

that patent was granted dec 2016


https://cannabissativainc.com/cannabis-sativa-inc-awarded-patent-ecuadorian-sativa-cannabis-plant/




https://www.google.com/patents/USPP27475




so it begins

 

[Orrie]

some reading on plant patents-

http://www.dopemagazine.com/plant-patents-love-hate-relationship/


and utility patents-

http://www.cannabisindustryinstitute.com/dispensary/utility-patents-pose-threat-strains/

 

[Stardog]

I just read this article before I logged in so I assumed somebody else had and posted it...Honestly I couldn't be more irritated than I am by green rushers and money people. We've been fending these ass hats off for years and now they're coming for what's basically ours as a community, the outlaws that had the stones to roll the dice in the first place?? I can only hope they fail because I sure don't know how I'm going to fight them.

 

[Junk]

I thought you could only patent something if you modified it genetically? That's how Monsanto does it. You can't patent a "natural" plant.

And as a schedule 1 I thought you couldn't research it? So how could you patent it?

 

[MJPassion]

Let 'emfile patents n shit!

Seeds can't fuckin read so they don't know they're not supposed to germinate.

As R.A.W. said...
Do as thou will.

 

[HqFarms]

I thought you could only patent something if you modified it genetically? That's how Monsanto does it. You can't patent a "natural" plant.

And as a schedule 1 I thought you couldn't research it? So how could you patent it?

I don't know about that. Roses are patented