The Landrace Indica thread

[Ras Pablo]

The Leb27 and this Lebanese La bekaa 07 Landrace, in my opinion are very releated, both are very fast not very resinous vigorous and hard plant that resist a lot hard temperatures, cold and hot. Hope Esbe will write here and explain more about the Leb27
Both, are sativas they grow vigorously, tall and with very thin sativa leafs. Not very very resinous but, for me a very good effect, active without paranoid hehe perfect for go shoppng hahaha.

As I know, the Lebanese plants came from greece. They are very very fast, in 45 days they are prepared to be harvested and If you work the line it's easy to get faster plants and more resinous, right now I'm working with this line trying to aboid hermis and getting real males and females hehe, the last seeds I popped, from 11 seeds all hermi except one ( the girl from the pics) that finishing flowering appear two litle bananas, so hermie to. Now I have 2 o 3 females and two keeper males.

Some pics from genuary: You see the two bannanas? hehe











Dried stash

 

[levant]

Oh boy this threads gonna be alot of fun,
Great pics everyone!

Here is some Purple Afghani

 

[Guest]

The Leb27 and this Lebanese La bekaa 07 Landrace, in my opinion are very releated, both are very fast not very resinous vigorous and hard plant that resist a lot hard temperatures, cold and hot. Hope Esbe will write here and explain more about the Leb27
Both, are sativas they grow vigorously, tall and with very thin sativa leafs. Not very very resinous but, for me a very good effect, active without paranoid hehe perfect for go shoppng hahaha.

That sounds like the Egyptian too, although it was 65 days indoors and didn't really flower properly, there were two other females that were both lovely in veg but didn't flower at all well indoors, Leb27 also doesn't like flowering indoors, so without having grown the Egyptian outdoors, it's hard to be too accurate. She was quite good for hash and that's what happened to the two other females, they were turned into hash.

She also produced a few late flower bananas on the tips of some of the buds. Some of the other bud tips were albino, something Raco has mentioned in other Lebanese types.

I dusted one of her lower buds with some Purple Afghan pollen, didn't get many seeds, but that could be an interesting F1 hybrid of two unique, exotic and rare P1s.

 

[ElectroSticky]

Great thread!!!!!!!!!

Skunk1..

 

[Raco]

stay on-topic plz

 

[Guest]

I have to say, this thread is off to a great start, all high quality specimens so far. Great work folks, and it's only just getting going! Bring it on!

 

[ElectroSticky]

Raco's right ....

even though my skunk has a nice INDICA look .... it's ....

must be a indica pheno skunk , but there is nothing Landrace about it...

i wish i had pics of a TRUE landrace i grew years ago straight out of iran...

it camed from a place called SHIRAZ .. so we called it shiraz*....

anyone else like ganja pasha or ras have more LANDRACES to share ...(indica phenos prefered )

 

[Raco]

I have to say, this thread is off to a great start, all high quality specimens so far. Great work folks, and it's only just getting going! Bring it on!

I agree
but what I see is a lot of sati and indi/sati hybrids,not landraces

 

[ElectroSticky]

LANDRACE INDICAS WANTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LANDRACE INDICAS WANTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raco is right again :friends: ...... jejejejejejejeje


LANDRACE INDICA....

now .. to help keep it on topic ....

all your landrace and landrace hybrid indica pics here

 

[Raco]

F1 hybrid of two landraces : Purple Chitral Kush x Uzbeki

 

[dfa]

i would love to smoke on some of those! great shots everyone

 

[Guest]

I take your point Raco, the Egyptian is definitely a landrace, I collected it myself, and I'm pretty sure the Purple Afghan is too, I trust the word of the source as I know for a fact he had/has close friends who served in Afghanistan in the British Army in the time frame and he assures me that th genes are the real deal, but he's very tight-lipped about the whole thing, all he will say is to trust that they are the real deal, and that reassures me more than if he had an elaborate tale to tell of their origins. To be honest, I think sometimes we attach too much emphasis to the term landrace, after all, many of what we call landraces are not really such, they are cultivars that have been maintained by human hand rather than true wild landraces. Perhaps the indica world is less well off in terms of actual landraces than the sativa world as it tends to be that the wild landraces are typically taller, more thin leafed and what is called a sativa, it has been mentioned many times, going back to Vavilov, that the indigenous landraces of Afghanistan were/are found on the margins of the cultivated valleys, usually on more arid upper elevations and are described as being taller, thinner leafed, sativas. It is also said that the 'Hindu Death Cabbage' type short, squat, highly resinous indica is the result of human intervention - it being the cultivated varieties that fit this profile. To be honest, it is hard (and the subject of much taxonomical debate) to determine just where in the scheme of things many varieties of cannabis from europe, the middle east and asia fall. Take the Lebanese/Egyptian hash varieties we were discussing, should these be regarded as indicas or sativas? Are they landraces or heirloom cultivars? Then we have the more northerly types, there are both tall, thin-leafed varieties in europe (think of the Altai mountain landrace plants posted recently) and short, squat, indica varieties (often called ruderalis).

I think we need to come up with a consistent, accurate taxonomy for cannabis, but that will have to wait until more genetic research has been done. Because cannabis is illegal most everywhere, there is a huge lack of scientific knowledge about the plant. Legal things like rice have had their genomes completely mapped and thoroughly researched, yet with cannabis we are still in the dark about so much of the genetics. Even guys like Dave Watson and Rob Clarke who probably know more about cannabis genetics than anyone else, know far less than their counterparts specialising in other plants do about their chosen genome.

I imagine when/if legalisation occurs on a widespread scale, it will not take long to map the cannabis genome and unlock all the secrets of this amazing herb. The powers that be don't want us to have this knowledge so they blind us from it with arcane and unfair laws.

So, getting back to the landrace thang, perhaps we should make the scope of this thread all landrace, ibl, heirloom and traditional cultivars that fit better into the broad category 'indica' than they do 'sativa'. To be more specific than that is to get into semantics really, given the current lack of accurate taxonomy.

 

[five_put]

I'm growing the Afghan Kush. It's a landrace.

I don't have pics of them right now, but there's not much to see as they're only about 8"-10" tall at the moment. But I will say that they do appear to be growing sort of lanky and odd-looking. I've grown quite a few strains out before, and I've even seen some real 'mutant' looking plants come from some of the seeds I've had.

 

[ElAhrJi]

Plants from seed collected in Aliabad, Hunza valley, Pakistan...

 

[Dignan]

Kashmiri hashplant here...

 

[TheHashAssassin]

El, quit making me drool with those pakis. About to start mine. Hopefully the good ones trip outside here.

GP, i was going to make a seperate IBL/Heirloom thread once my ibls/heirlooms are up through the soil, I am hoping it will become a good source of info for all the non-commercial ibl/heirloom lines out there.

 

[rootfingers]

Gawd, some of you guys are growing amazing strains! For some reason they seem even more exotic to me than some of the sativa strains out there. Might be because some come from seemingly unstable areas of the world. Not sure though.

Raco, that Purple Chitral Kush x Uzbeki is amazing looking. She sure is frosty! :jawdrop:

 

[bigmoneygrip]

El, quit making me drool with those pakis. About to start mine. Hopefully the good ones trip outside here.

GP, i was going to make a seperate IBL/Heirloom thread once my ibls/heirlooms are up through the soil, I am hoping it will become a good source of info for all the non-commercial ibl/heirloom lines out there.

this is a good thread I will be posting up some goodies real soon that I got from the country of pakistan by the way "paki" is a racial slur

 

[TheHashAssassin]

this is a good thread I will be posting up some goodies real soon that I got from the country of pakistan by the way "paki" is a racial slur

well I hope the plants dont lynch me when they get bigger for being so racist where were yours collected?

 

[Pirate138]

Legal things like rice have had their genomes completely mapped and thoroughly researched, yet with cannabis we are still in the dark about so much of the genetics. Even guys like Dave Watson and Rob Clarke who probably know more about cannabis genetics than anyone else, know far less than their counterparts specialising in other plants do about their chosen genome.

I imagine when/if legalisation occurs on a widespread scale, it will not take long to map the cannabis genome and unlock all the secrets of this amazing herb. The powers that be don't want us to have this knowledge so they blind us from it with arcane and unfair laws.
.

They did map the cannabis genome, they have mapped all known plant species. I saw it on Nova on PBS, it was a show about the earliest flowering plant on earth. Apparently the closest ancestor cannabis has is strawberries believe it or not.