The joy of breeding

[Lebanizer]

Isn't breeding just the best ? You take a strain from say, Nepal, you cross it with a Lebanese and then you select the most desirable offsprings then you do the same with say some plants from Panama and Thailand and you repeat the process with all kinds of exotic places, then you select the most desirable individuals, it could be the shortest or the tallest, while others still might prefer the stinkiest or the hairirest or the chunkiest and then you continue mixing and selecting all those genes and everything. You might even take it further and engage in backcrosses like crossing a plant with its parent or grandparent and siblings and eveything. This usually allows you to focus on certain very desirable traits. It's really all just awesome. I wish I could do the same with humans.

 

[Creeperpark]

Yes it's so fun making your own seeds. I like to pollinate one plant's lower branches with pollen from more than one donor. I will take pollen from 4 different males and pollinate one favorite plant. Then start growing those over the next few years.

 

[linde]

I find it can go either way though. in most cases if you use Frankenstein breeders you get munster babys. i like to stick with the IBLs to get the best results. less genetic alteration. a lot of todays washed out stuff is from breeding cousins with cousins. looks good smells good but no flavor or buzz. might get lucky but more so than not undesirable traits come out. the rare desirable recessive traits like say pink pistils or pine aroma get lost. I find most dominant traits are usually undesirable....i guess similar to human or any other breeding. But you never know when that gem pops out.

 

[linde]

One wrong cross just one time and you may have lost desirable traits forever. Be VERY selective and careful when crossing strains together. Today's pollin chucking practices are leading to a downward spiral of cannabis genetics. Depleting the gene pool. imo

 

[nono_fr]

I'm going to order some Tom Hill Haze to put in all the varieties that will pass in my tent. After that I will have fun choosing the phenotypes I want to grow .

I will be ready for legalization !

 

[linde]

100 yrs ago over 50% of all americans were blue eyed. now less than 10% of americans are. all happened within 100 yrs. these landrace cannabis strains grew for millions of years with no genetic alteration. breeding only began basically 40 yrs ago and look at the impact it has done today. hard to find classic skunk, pine and sativa strains....all within just 40 years. I can only fathom what another 40 yrs of cross breeding will do. with my 25+ yrs of cannsbis growing these are just my opinions of course.

 

[revegeta666]

Isn't breeding just the best ? You take a strain from say, Nepal, you cross it with a Lebanese and then you select the most desirable offsprings then you do the same with say some plants from Panama and Thailand and you repeat the process with all kinds of exotic places, then you select the most desirable individuals, it could be the shortest or the tallest, while others still might prefer the stinkiest or the hairirest or the chunkiest and then you continue mixing and selecting all those genes and everything. You might even take it further and engage in backcrosses like crossing a plant with its parent or grandparent and siblings and eveything. This usually allows you to focus on certain very desirable traits. It's really all just awesome. I wish I could do the same with humans.

Hahaha your last sentence made me chuckle

And it is fun to make seeds. I don't know if I would call it breeding though, unless it's done by an actual breeder. People nowadays are a little too quick to call themselves a breeder I think. It takes value away from the effort of people who do the real work. A monkey on LSD could make seeds with his feet, which is the way I usually do them myself by the way.

 

[GreenAndFast]

I'm literally swimming in sativa seeds

 

[linde]

I'm literally swimming in sativa seeds

yup and the water is over your head! lol u missed my whole point.. old school sativa genetics. Columbian gold. Panama red. Thai stick etc etc. now all sativa is called "haze" whatever that means.

 

[revegeta666]

100 yrs ago over 50% of all americans were blue eyed. now less than 10% of americans are. all happened within 100 yrs. these landrace cannabis strains grew for millions of years with no genetic alteration. breeding only began basically 40 yrs ago and look at the impact it has done today. hard to find classic skunk, pine and sativa strains....all within just 40 years. I can only fathom what another 40 yrs of cross breeding will do. with my 25+ yrs of cannsbis growing these are just my opinions of course.

That's an interesting analogy. By the same logic, I guess you could also say, just 300 years before that, 0% americans were blue eyed lol. Genetics do work in interesting ways

 

[goingrey]

One wrong cross just one time and you may have lost desirable traits forever. Be VERY selective and careful when crossing strains together. Today's pollin chucking practices are leading to a downward spiral of cannabis genetics. Depleting the gene pool. imo

You might lose some traits if you make a cross, sure. But not making seeds doesn't preserve anything.

 

[linde]

That's an interesting analogy. By the same logic, I guess you could also say, just 300 years before that, 0% americans were blue eyed lol. Genetics do work in interesting ways

I agree. everything evolves. that Charles Darwin had a point.

 

[revegeta666]

I agree. everything evolves. that Charles Darwin had a point.

I missed the part where Darwin said anything about genocide but ok lol

 

[willydread]

I don't consider myself a breeder, rather a miner and mid-artist: I mix genetics according to my instinct and intuition, I find rough diamonds that in the hands of other growers become real jewels ...
It's so good and satisfying to see someone growing "my" seeds and making fantastic plants out of them, and they really like them ...
There is no money in the world that is worth that satisfaction ....

 

[willydread]

Isn't breeding just the best ? You take a strain from say, Nepal, you cross it with a Lebanese and then you select the most desirable offsprings then you do the same with say some plants from Panama and Thailand and you repeat the process with all kinds of exotic places, then you select the most desirable individuals, it could be the shortest or the tallest, while others still might prefer the stinkiest or the hairirest or the chunkiest and then you continue mixing and selecting all those genes and everything. You might even take it further and engage in backcrosses like crossing a plant with its parent or grandparent and siblings and eveything. This usually allows you to focus on certain very desirable traits. It's really all just awesome. I wish I could do the same with humans.

It's the same thing with art :different painters will make different paintings according to different styles using the same colors ....

 

[goingrey]

I missed the part where Darwin said anything about genocide but ok lol

The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[revegeta666]

The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ok, so he did kind of talk about genocide in an evolutionary context. Thank you fro the correction. I thought that was more of a Nazi concept.

This line caught my eye

we build asylums for the imbecile

Guess who would have been cancelled in a heartbeat if he had been alive nowadays
No more Twitter for you Darwin!

 

[GreenAndFast]

yup and the water is over your head! lol u missed my whole point.. old school sativa genetics. Columbian gold. Panama red. Thai stick etc etc. now all sativa is called "haze" whatever that means.

It's out there....

 

[Lebanizer]

I'm sure everybody understood that my original post was all double entendre and not really about cannabis per se.

 

[Vaporizando192]

I just got 10 regular seeds of MALAWI, my plan is to let pollinate among them and next year have PLENTY of seeds.

My question for the experts is : can i do it Outdoor from October till December/January ?

What could be wrong ?

What can i expect for that ?

P.S. Autumn and Winter are quite warm in my mediterranean garden