The Anti American War Movie Movement

[facelift]

I saw a short bit on Hollywood and war. There is an increasing number of movies both recent and up and coming devoted to the current war. These movies are doing poorly at the box office, yet Hollywood insists on making this propaganda.

During World War II the pentagon asked Hollywood to make movies that supported the war and government, and portrayed a needed unity to defeat our enemies. Unfortunately, director like Redford, with his Lions For Lambs, and De Palma with his war movie, are using these vehicles to slam in to the hearts and minds of the average American.

These movies show the US Government as inept, vile functions of the American people, and many of these war movie directors claim that they are harmless to effect the opinions of people in the middle east. Who they do effect are the American People simply because we are the main target audience.

75% of the people want the war to end, and the remaining 25% want the war to end too. Only we want it to end in our favor or victory. I guess there's a stray person here or there or in Hollywood who would rather see war continue for ever.

Just a note to be ready for a steady bombardment of anti American War movies heading directly toward you.

 

[Jack D Ripper]

Best anti war movie ever made (and one of the best movies in general): Full Metal Jacket

"I wanted to see exotic Vietnam, the jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture and ... kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill."

 

[D0nC0smic]

personally i prefer apocalypse now

 

[Jack D Ripper]

I love the smell of marijuana in the morning. smells like... victory.

 

[facelift]

My point is that they are no longer waiting for the war to end to present there story, they are doing it in real time, if you wish, to effect some kind of change. I haven't seen the movies yet since they are not yet released. The topic is current and it may be too soon.

 

[facelift]

Thought I would bump this and give one more slide down the front page....

I watched Full Metal Jacket last night and it's pretty good. After seeing other war movies like Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, and Apocolypse Now, the plot seems a bit thin, but FMJ was a good watch.

 

[okwildfire]

these new movies flopped big time....

 

[FarmerJoe]

We have everyone who wants to be in the war over there already, some of them dont even want to be there, but unfortunately its hard for the government to hear the others who don't want to be over there, yelling from their sofas and recliners.

 

[LEGI0N]

Best anti war movie ever made (and one of the best movies in general): Full Metal Jacket

"I wanted to see exotic Vietnam, the jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture and ... kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill."

Sorry, the best anti war movie is 'Johnny Got His Gun'. This is the movie that was the inspiration for the song 'One' by Metallica.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j39ABZyzek

 

[facelift]

I have no doubt that every American want to see a victory in this war on terror. Just as I don't doubt that every American wants to see this war end.

So the question, "Do you want to win this war?" is totally stupid. And I can't for one minute see Tom Cruise in a role as a senior congressman or senator. He's too young and should stick with "junior" roles until he stops dying his hair.

American's don't need Hollywood to cut in and pose these questions for us.

 

[marx2k]

Sorry, the best anti war movie is 'Johnny Got His Gun'. This is the movie that was the inspiration for the song 'One' by Metallica.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j39ABZyzek

The book is even better: http://books.google.com/books?id=LnnMLLk2uU4C&pg=PP1&dq=trumbo&sig=FMqMYkSlF5rDTPQLuo_3PqdLZ7k

 

[marx2k]

I have no doubt that every American want to see a victory in this war on terror.

The problem is that most Americans have no idea what a victory would even BE. How do you attain victory on the war on terror?

American's don't need Hollywood to cut in and pose these questions for us.

You might be severely overestimating the prowess in political knowledge for most Americans.

 

[oldpink]

Platoon, FMJ and Apocolype are 3 good reasons america should'nt be allowed to go to war
I have all 3 on DVD and love them

 

[Backdoor man]

Unfortunately, director like Redford, with his Lions For Lambs, and De Palma with his war movie, are using these vehicles to slam in to the hearts and minds of the average American.

After what your nation has been guilty of at Guantanmo bay, Abu Ghraib ect.ect. perhaps someone finally had a conscience?

These movies show the US Government as inept, vile functions of the American people,

The likes of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle and Wolfowitz have done a fine job of that one already.

75% of the people want the war to end, and the remaining 25% want the war to end too. Only we want it to end in our favor or victory. I guess there's a stray person here or there or in Hollywood who would rather see war continue for ever.

I would say the guilty for wanting perpetual war are those flag waving idiots who have now moved on to Iran as their no1 hatred, I dont see Robert Redford supporting wars that are obviously completely at odds with the best interests of the American Nation and its people, im not saying redford is a patriot of any kind, but you cant blame him for being "Anti-American" for being somehow critical of this current Neo-con regime, and the real-life non-fictional disaster it is currently creating throughout the Middle East.

 

[newbgrow]

How do you attain victory on the war on terror?

You can't. Have you ever seen V for Vendetta?

 

[Jack D Ripper]

After seeing other war movies like Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, and Apocolypse Now, the plot seems a bit thin, but FMJ was a good watch.

the plot isnt thin... its just not what you want to hear if youre a war-monger. FMJ isnt a love story, its not about brotherhood, it doesnt glorify war. Kubrick was not interested in making an anti-war film but he "wanted to show what war is like." War is hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI

 

[Guest]

Backdoor man I certainly can and do blame him for the real life non-fictional disaster the movie is currently creating throughout the middle east.O yea I can blame him and wish him the very worst in life,you bet I can the walking piece of shit.I wonder just how Americans will die as a direct result of his little money making endeavor which will fail like a mother****er hahahaha

 

[Backdoor man]

Backdoor man I certainly can and do blame him for the real life non-fictional disaster the movie is currently creating throughout the middle east.

So you believe Robert Redford's film rather than Israeli/USA foreign policy is steering us all to world war three?

I wonder just how Americans will die as a direct result of his little money making endeavor which will fail like a mother****er hahahaha

Well if your referring to Robert Redford very few if any is the answer, if your referring to Bush's little endeavours on behalf of Israel which will fail like a mother****er.....the answer is lots and lots.

 

[Guest]

FMJ puts SPR to shame IMHO. You call that a thick plot? More like a weak Socratic Irony. Get a bunch of people killed to save someone who doesn't want or need to be saved ... I don't think Old Man Ryan has lived through a film since HeHeHe. Otis Driftwood Killed Private Ryan to the tune of I Remember You ... Now that's Classic

 

[DogBoy]

The power of the media was discovered during Vietnam. Your government simply wants to use that to influence your opinion. Look at how highly people speak of existing war films and you will see the temptation to create more films about the current conflict in the hope that people will feel more 'patriotic'. It will take them a while to realise the impact of their actions as they are a huge and faceless monster which is incapable of speedy changes. I see this as a desperate attempt to raise support for a flagging war which is vital to the US economy but does not have the support of the people. Imagine how big a windfall it would be for the US Gov if they could get a majority of the populous to back them instead of the current climate where the majority actually disagree vehemently.

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