The 2020 Presidential Election

[NEW ENGLAND]

There have been many insiders commenting about fear and intimidation tactics used in the White House. Careers have been trashed, associates jailed, the executive orders sound like coded threats to Mueller.

Mueller doesn't strike me as an easily intimidated individual by any means.

 

[Hammerhead]

That's exactly why DOJ sent him that letter. If Muller cares about our democracy and the law he will speak plainly what he found. He should disregard that letter. Congress should protect Muller from any threats from DOJ. We have whistle blower laws. Not sure if that would help. What ever it takes make sure any that speak the truth are protected from Tyranny..

 

[White Beard]

Hope they’re figuring out how to arrest Twitterhands....

 

[Hammerhead]

That's not gonna happen. The only thing is impeachment. The Senate wont agree on anything. This admin has let the GOP put there hands in the till more than ever before. There not gonna let the dems stop that cash flow. I'm not sure whats gonna happen at this point. Everything is so screwed up I dont see a path forward.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

That's exactly why DOJ sent him that letter. If Muller cares about our democracy and the law he will speak plainly what he found. He should disregard that letter. Congress should protect Muller from any threats from DOJ. We have whistle blower laws. Not sure if that would help. What ever it takes make sure any that speak the truth are protected from Tyranny..

At the end of the day I hope everything becomes transparent,FBI investigation,Fisa warrants,The Steele dossier,and did the Clinton's really pay for it?

Not saying Trump is innocent of anything.i just believe theres some dirty shit on both sides of the aisle.

People being spoonfed town hall questions ahead of time,is reflective of how low hillarys campaign stooped.

And again I'm not defending Trump,I just think both sides were dirty as shit,and the voters are ultimately cattle being herded in their(government)desired direction by whatever path necessary.
I dont profess to have a degree in political science by any means,I try and keep up on all this crap as time permits.

Maybe someone here has had more time than i,and can explain the truth about the steele dossier.Has that been prove to have been paid for by the clintons,and if so would that not mee the threshold for collusion?

Seems as this dossier was the basis for the fisa warrants,and if it was a bunch of bullshit,would that not be fruit of the proverbial poisonous tree?

Like I said I feel the country deserves to know everything that transpired from all involved,and let the chips fall where they may.
They're all a bunch of dirty fuckers in my eyes,but hey that's just my opinion of our powers to be.

 

[Hammerhead]

Its not that difficult to weed through the bullshit. To many have blinders on. GOP wont admit crimes took place when its very obvious. They will go to there graves protecting a man that will toss them under the bus to protect himself.

If the law was broken all must pay the price. Depending on the severity of the crimes committed will determine the price payed. If your rich/famous you get to break the law with no consequences.




This dossier was an oppo research paper funded by the Republicans , then taken over by the dems. This is 100% normal oppo research. I never understood what the issue was? Even if it contained 100% fake BS its not a crime. From what I've read lots of its contents have proven true. The investiagtion was not started based on this Dossier. It was started from George Papadopoulos telling a foreign diplomat the Russians had dirt on Hillery

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

True story,theres the rich and privledged,then theres the average American citizen.
I personally have asked everyone I work with,am friends with,neighbors
Not one of them have read the Mueller report,that's how much the average American cares

 

[Zeez]

Not one unredacted copy has leaked.

Robert Mueller is a military veteran. In the 1970s, Mueller served in the U.S. Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. He enlisted shortly after graduating from Princeton. In an interview with the University of Virginia School of Law, Mueller said that he followed in the footsteps of a close friend.

You think Robert Mueller is going to woos out? He didn't need to call in the cavalry to be trumps patsy. Really big show coming up.

 

[White Beard]

At the end of the day I hope everything becomes transparent,FBI investigation,Fisa warrants,The Steele dossier,and did the Clinton's really pay for it?

Maybe someone here has had more time than i,and can explain the truth about the steele dossier.Has that been prove to have been paid for by the clintons,and if so would that not mee the threshold for collusion?

Seems as this dossier was the basis for the fisa warrants,and if it was a bunch of bullshit,would that not be fruit of the proverbial poisonous tree?

The Steele dossier was commissioned by a GOP entity wanting opposition research, said candidate scrapped the contract and left the race before the primaries were done. I have no idea what happened between then and when McCain got ahold of it and took it to the FBI, but it certainly has not been proven that Clinton saw it, touched it, or read it, much less paid for it, or we’d have had the details going 24/7 ever since.

Most recent news was that the FISA warrant application acknowledged the dossier, it presented plenty of justification that had nothing to do with the dossier, the warrant was issued. No crime, no foul, no harm.

The bulk of the dossier turned out to be accurate, but was oppo research, contracted by a US company (GPS Fusion?), from a retired British intelligence analyst. Not election interference because not a state actor, and because not an interference with the primary process...the actual election campaigns, well, that might be different. Probably not even used, per se, except for the little mushroom cloud over it.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Yes - 'tis true - most people couldn't give a stuff about politics - or the machinations of the legal world in Washington - such complacency abounds - and those that do listen to the news generally get it from the main-stream media - and believe just about everything they see/read to be true - rarely if ever doing any actual research on whatever topic - to verify or disprove.

True story,theres the rich and privledged,then theres the average American citizen.
I personally have asked everyone I work with,am friends with,neighbors
Not one of them have read the Mueller report,that's how much the average American cares

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Ain't that the truth,that why I compare the masses to Cattle.To rely on CNN,or Fox news to me is just entertainment,with a brainwashing effect.Unfortunatly I cant afford,nor have time to go to the Casino's daily.
So I tune into these carny barkers for my entertainment.
I believe none of what I read,and at times question what I see.

 

[RB56]

Several years ago it became generally agreed upon that comparing any individual to Hitler or any group to the Nazis was beyond the pale and a self defeating argument. Made sense. At the same time, throughout my life, the question has been posed: "What the hell happened in Germany? How did Naziism happen?


We are now seeing how it happened in our own country - thought leaders remain silent out of fear or the belief that acknowledging evil gives it power. Frightened and ignorant masses are happy to blame their problems on minorities. I hope the end result will be different here, but I'm not optimistic.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Several years ago it became generally agreed upon that comparing any individual to Hitler or any group to the Nazis was beyond the pale and a self defeating argument. Made sense. At the same time, throughout my life, the question has been posed: "What the hell happened in Germany? How did Naziism happen?


We are now seeing how it happened in our own country - thought leaders remain silent out of fear or the belief that acknowledging evil gives it power. Frightened and ignorant masses are happy to blame their problems on minorities. I hope the end result will be different here, but I'm not optimistic.

It was clear it was terrible to elect him. Both for the people and enviroment. But had no idea he was going to try to be a dictator.

Once again. For all you gun lovers. This (trump) is why you have the right to bear arms. Maybe some of you want to hurry up and start renoving the tyrant because its only a matter of time before he wants to take your guns.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

You lost me there bigtaco,the NRA is his biggest supporter

 

[DJXX]

after Serving in the Air Force there is still a patriotism fire in me...i lost great friends to VIetnam but our fearless(lolol) leader didn't have to go......lets go back a few years...i couldnt stand The Apprentice...not just cause of Trump priviledged ass... because he has an orgasm when he said, "you're fired"....he loved that cause he avoided paying many people this way and just seemed like a bigtime douche to me at the time...flash forward..he stood on the stage debating a dozen adults ...then the name calling crap, now the National Enquirer ties... Ted Cruz had ties to the killing of JFK....wtf... i was over him bigtime...then i find out he dodged the draft by another payoff to a doctor for a madeup ailment......and i knew right then we were in deep shit with this guy...his ties with the National Enquirer didn't help with his credibility...i read both sides and even listen to a bit of Fox news but it is just the National Enquirer TV show..but i still listen...i have read all 448 pages of the Mueller report and have no explanation how he skated past it...well we know why...he lives his life to stack the deck in his favor...he has also learned from the mafia the how to shut people up or discredit them so bad anything they say whether credible ot not, doesn't mean a thing...living in New York where Mafia controlled many of the construction business and other entities didn't help..just brought to light how you can pay off anything to make it happen...on Trump Tower the construction was in progress, but the mafia controlled concrete companies wouldn't do any work at this time in the city period...but again Trump cause of his daddies ties got concrete no problem...he has learned no is not an option...that money buys anything....and he with the biggest megaphone wins...now he is playing with Americas money just like its his...after several bancruptcies and dodging the draft how can many in America give him a pass....he takes credit for the economy and anything else that makes him look good, but most of his base dont do any research so really don't have a clue...the saddest thing is some are smart enough, but just too lazy to check.... today Mueller is presenting who knows what...they have him in a straight jacket or finally got to his bank account so i am nt ootimisptic on the show today...look at Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell....you will see why they suck his nuts, if you take a look at their accounts...you will see riches like most Americans will never see...Lindsey was a different person a few years ago...look at him now....repeating Trumps garbage word for word..just sickens me..i hope John McCain kicks the shit out of him in the afterlife....id like to think todays spectacle will bring to light the important things...but we know its gonna be just another win for Donnie Twitterhands..ohhh im sure many will be on later...have a blessed day, cause we wont have many more...Make America Greedy Again is not the answer...DJXX

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Sooner or later enough of his supporters will notice he is full of shit. He will crush their economy or disrespect their beliefs. If shithead has as little respect for the constitution as it seems. I think that eventually trying to disarm the ones who might want to lynch him would make sense.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Somethings just never change look at the KennedysGrandpappy was a ran trafficking during prohibition,chappaquiddick,Kennedy cousins getting a pass on rape and murder due to who they were related to.
I think we can all agree,theres a set of rules for us,and a different set for the rich,and priviledged.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Well so far the highlight of the day is Pamela Browns lips.

 

[Hammerhead]

Ive been watching its still true Trumptard is guilty of obstruction. Will he pay the price probably not.. I do think Muller should retire. I dont think he can hear well. Is having issues understanding some there questions.

I posted a old GOV war depart video how powerful racist bigots divide there countries. Here it is again for those that missed it.


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[med4u]

Thurston Muellar the third...are you fuckin kidding me?
This guy has been smokin MY weed