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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Zeez

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Add up all of Biden’s gaffes, misspeaks, and lies in his entire lifetime.
It would still be fewer than one trump press conference.
 

White Beard

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Just show me some proof, you say....
https://tomiarayomi1.disciplemedia.com/posts/7389?sh=wKeULgxf

Is there any defense to this?
White Beard???
What do you have to say regarding the content of this short video?
Why, thank you for asking, Hempy!

First off: it is obvious to ME that the presenter IS NOT Bill Gates - I have watched Gates present a number of times in a variety of settings, and I’m quite familiar with the sound of his voice and his manner of speaking (20 years in the computer industry). It is not Gates’ voice, and it’s not his manner of speech, and it’s not his style of presentation. It’s not even an imitation of him. Furthermore, the presenter doesn’t resemble Gates, except in the manner that ‘all black people look alike’ to some.

Given that it’s NOT Gates, I see absolutely no reason to assume this is a presentation to the CIA beyond the ‘title’ of the clip; I’ve also heard this called a presentation to the Pentagon - but there is NOTHING in the video that identifies the identity of the presenter or the audience.

Secondly, there is specific reference to a virus altering the gene expression under discussion - not a covert follow-up vaccine; and the context is specifically religious fanatics in the wilds of Afghanistan: the intent of the presenter is the outline of a plan, but the clip includes nothing about the audience, or the intent of the ‘project’ for which the “plan” was developed: it talks about GENE EXPRESSION of a very specific gene, it talks about people willing to put on a bomb vest. It talks about an unidentified plan in that the clip includes no context for what we see.

Thirdly, we see that the audience is TINY, the questions/comments from the audience are close to inaudible, but none of the presentation addresses the situation the “plan” is intended to address. This suggests to me that this is nothing high-level, just a bare introduction to the status of an effort.

From all this, I derive the following: this is a pro-forma update on a proposed project, not something active, and not of particular interest to the audience; the context is the Afghanistan theater of war; it suggests that NO trials have been run on the supposed project (the two brain scans are not “before and after” gene-expression modification, they are of two poorly-identified subjects, one supposedly religious of the fanatical sort, and the other “not particularly religious”), or they would have shown that.

Therefore, it shows: a man, speaking in an auditorium to a minuscule audience, about an idea that religious extremism in Afghanistan could be impacted by modifying gene expression, using a virus, which I assume from context would be somehow modified to affect expression of a specific gene. It sounds highly speculative, it sounds untested, it sounds like the presenter is hoping to get his “plan” approved, it sounds like there is no eagerness in the audience about the proposed project.

The suggestion that this is Bill Gates presenting to *any* government agency about using fake virus outbreaks to genetically alter the brain of living persons and thereby control them cannot be proved by the clip. Getting there requires HUGE assumptions that aren’t supported, or even pointed at, by the clip.

Shaggyballs posted this multiple times, claiming it as “absolute proof” of his conclusion-jumping fear of - well, many things. I think it proves nothing beyond his desperation to find *anything* to back up his apparent paranoia. The comments below the clip (your link) show (IMO) a paranoid willingness to ignore everything in the video in favor of an already well-established belief in persecution, which allows them to see (and hear) this as validation of the least reasonable conclusions possible.

I realize that my comments, deriving as they do from the contents of the video, and from personal general knowledge, will not persuade you of anything - except perhaps that I, too, am ‘one of them’; but you did ask, and I have answered you with complete honesty.

my own comments: I have real doubts as to whether this idea - that expression of a specific gene can be accomplished, that the change of expression will change the current functioning of a living brain as opposed to the next generation (in which it would need to be DOMINANT in the population, not merely present), the idea that this could be done with a virus *or* vaccine, the idea the effects of that modified expression would be specific and foreseeable - is liable to pan out.

For one thing, I think that outcome would require far more knowledge, far more skill, far more long-term experience in genetic modification that we have. I think that if such capabilities were in fact ‘scientifically available’, and that if this were in fact a Gates-level actor, the presentation would have been more focused, more informative, the audience larger, the questions more audible and direct, the audience more active.

In short, I am not persuaded of anything by this clip except the willingness to read what they want into what they see.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
Biden couldn't catch up with trump in a thousand years when it comes to stupid comments.

Let's see.
Clorox injections,
Infrared bung lights,
Hydroxy - whatever it was. (he couldn't't remember)
I wore my mask,

Biden gets his not quite Imus moment and everybody is dancing in the street.

Go figure.

it's not a contest though. i would never vote for a republican so why would i waste my time criticizing them all day long. i want someone better than joe. and i have no faith that he can actually beat Trump to begin with.

simply being better than Trump is another way of saying race to the bottom, imo. it's not enough. it's only going to lead to worse and worse candidates on the right.
 

Zeez

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it's not a contest though. i would never vote for a republican so why would i waste my time criticizing them all day long. i want someone better than joe. and i have no faith that he can actually beat Trump to begin with.

simply being better than Trump is another way of saying race to the bottom, imo. it's not enough. it's only going to lead to worse and worse candidates on the right.

It's just not going to happen this time.

Joe Kennedy will probably get elected as a Massachusetts senator.
Deffinately somebody to keep an eye on for 24.
 

White Beard

Active member
Hello all,

That is not a fact...it is her saying it is her mother and the interview made no mention of names or specific allegations. Speculation and conjecture, ay?
A shared area code is no evidence at all

'Look at my African American over here, look at him' Donald John Trump (Head of the Deep State)
“The blacks LOVE me...what’ve [they] got to lose?”

Hopefully, we can all agree they had, and still have, a great deal to lose under a renewed Trump regime.

Biden is a horrible choice for president, but so is Trump.
I find the inability to weigh the actual damage of Trump’s reign against the acknowledged and largely meaningless fabrications of Biden truly astonishing. As if Biden appropriating the political strikes of another politician, fudging a college paper, and cobbling together a campaign proposal out of the proposals of competing candidates was in any way as monstrous, as devastating, as harmful as - or in any way comparable to - the actions of the Trump regime during its time in power.

Replacing a lunatic pilot flying a plane into a mountain with a different pilot, who *WONT* fly the plane into a mountain, isn’t some weird kind of corruption, it’s an entirely reasonable effort to keep the plane from crashing and everyone dying.

I don’t care, right that second, whether the replacement pilot was an asshole to me in school, or manhandled my sister - I’d wait til the plane landed and we all deplaned, and then I would jump in his shit And make every effort to hold him to account. I would NOT assume that the death of everyone else on the plane was a fair trade for not letting him land the plane.

The more trump lies to them and treats them like idiots the more they like it.
I genuinely believe that many of them grew up admiring/kowtowing to men like Trump: better the abuser you know, than the abuser you don’t know, so to speak

some food for thought
Trump is overdue for his 6 month physical
no explanation provided by the WH
way too many mysteries these days
strange days indeed
Well, he tested very positively the other, toward the negative, so we have his physical assessment right there...and gosh, wouldn’t Biden be so much worse...or something.

Nothing that 45 does surprises anymore, he will have his DR. write him a note that he has the health of a 30 year old. I wonder how much collateral damage he and his base are ready to face up to after the second wave comes through after this holiday weekend...
The thing is, obvious lies are OBVIOUS. That actually means something: even those most open to deception will reach a point....

Zero, the answer is always zero responsibility for one's own condition.

Funny as hell when you contrast it with the fact that up until trump pulling yourself up by your bootstraps was a mantra of those folks.
Continually alarmed at the complete reversal of “Republican principles” in the age of Trump.

Biden is also a liar.

Claims he got locked up in South Africa while trying to visit Mandela
Claims he graduated with 3 degrees
Claims health care is a right but doesn't support Universal care
Claims he went to law school on a full scholarship
Claims the Obama admin didn't lock kids in cages

Biden’s 1987 campaign foundered also because he was caught lifting passages of a speech given by Neil Kinnock. Biden echoed (falsely) the British Labor leader’s history that he was the first "in a thousand generations" to graduate from college and repeated virtually verbatim the same story about his wife, just as Kinnock had.

More shocking, Biden claimed: “My ancestors…worked in the coal mines of Northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours,’’ even though no one in Biden’s family tree ever worked underground. That was Kinnock’s family.

It wasn’t the first time; Biden had also been caught plagiarizing during law school. He “borrowed” an entire five pages from a published law review article without attribution and had to beg not to be expelled.

Interestingly, just last summer complaints arose about Biden “borrowing” the work of others, in putting together his climate plan. As Vox reported, Biden’s plan “contains a number of passages that seem to have been copied and pasted, at times with very superficial changes” from a variety of sources.

Then there was the inspiring tale of visiting Afghanistan to honor a heroic naval officer. Biden described the officer’s actions in detail, adding, “This is God’s truth, my word as a Biden.” But according to a review in the Washington Post, no such incident occurred. Biden was lucky not to be hit by lightning.

He has also cast himself as a civil rights activist and co-sponsor of the Endangered Species Act; those things aren’t true either.

there's more too lol
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Will not hire him as an author, historian, paladin - WILL hire him to land the plane if we can get the atavism out of the cockpit.

If our predicament holds no urgency for you, if letting the plane crash is okay because the alternate pilot isn’t pretty enough for you, isn’t Bernie enough (and for fucks sake he certainly isn’t any kind of Bernie enough for *me*), then we all die, I guess? Pick up what we can and pretend that voting prettier next time will work? Pretend that the destruction will just magically STOP because we wrangle over which pilot is prettiest instead helping get the atavism away from the controls?

We don’t have much purity lying around unused. That’s an imaginary chance, and I’m not willing to take it. Too many have died, and too many more are on the conveyor

Gotta say...that you ain't black comment was not great.
Definitely a white person’s opinion of a clumsy Biden turn of phrase. Hammering him over is definitely the way to dump Trump...if you assume only white people get it.

(Not “you”, man, general ‘you’)

it's not a contest though. i would never vote for a republican so why would i waste my time criticizing them all day long. i want someone better than joe. and i have no faith that he can actually beat Trump to begin with.

simply being better than Trump is another way of saying race to the bottom, imo. it's not enough. it's only going to lead to worse and worse candidates on the right.
Another way of saying “If we can’t agree on a different pilot, we all deserve to die”. Not going there. I have children. I have friends. I’m not willing to die or see them die at the hands of a madman or his thugs
 

Klompen

Active member
Well if they fact checked all of Bidens jokes like they do Trump I'm sure it would easily be 50k+ lies lol.

Good luck getting partisans to realize that Biden is just the demented version of Trump and Trump is just the man-child version of Biden. They will argue all day about which of their turds sparkles better in the toilet bowl.
 

GeorgeWBush

Active member
Veteran
Hi all.It's really very simple
Biden being Biden will get Trump re elected
Trump being Trump will get Trump re elected
You don't have to like it.
You can cry all you want
The from left field last min entry maybe Michele or Billary will get Trump re elected
Sanders, Warren ,AOC,Fat Jerry,Crazy Nancy,Pencil neck Schiff,will get Trump re elected
Theres a common theme here folks,Trump's getting re elected.
Discuss :
 

NEW ENGLAND

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Hi all.It's really very simple
Biden being Biden will get Trump re elected
Trump being Trump will get Trump re elected
You don't have to like it.
You can cry all you want
The from left field last min entry maybe Michele or Billary will get Trump re elected
Sanders, Warren ,AOC,Fat Jerry,Crazy Nancy,Pencil neck Schiff,will get Trump re elected
Theres a common theme here folks,Trump's getting re elected.
Discuss :

Shaggy has a better chance of being a mod , than biden winning in November.
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Why, thank you for asking, Hempy!

First off: it is obvious to ME that the presenter IS NOT Bill Gates - I have watched Gates present a number of times in a variety of settings, and I’m quite familiar with the sound of his voice and his manner of speaking (20 years in the computer industry). It is not Gates’ voice, and it’s not his manner of speech, and it’s not his style of presentation. It’s not even an imitation of him. Furthermore, the presenter doesn’t resemble Gates, except in the manner that ‘all black people look alike’ to some.

Given that it’s NOT Gates, I see absolutely no reason to assume this is a presentation to the CIA beyond the ‘title’ of the clip; I’ve also heard this called a presentation to the Pentagon - but there is NOTHING in the video that identifies the identity of the presenter or the audience.

Secondly, there is specific reference to a virus altering the gene expression under discussion - not a covert follow-up vaccine; and the context is specifically religious fanatics in the wilds of Afghanistan: the intent of the presenter is the outline of a plan, but the clip includes nothing about the audience, or the intent of the ‘project’ for which the “plan” was developed: it talks about GENE EXPRESSION of a very specific gene, it talks about people willing to put on a bomb vest. It talks about an unidentified plan in that the clip includes no context for what we see.

Thirdly, we see that the audience is TINY, the questions/comments from the audience are close to inaudible, but none of the presentation addresses the situation the “plan” is intended to address. This suggests to me that this is nothing high-level, just a bare introduction to the status of an effort.

From all this, I derive the following: this is a pro-forma update on a proposed project, not something active, and not of particular interest to the audience; the context is the Afghanistan theater of war; it suggests that NO trials have been run on the supposed project (the two brain scans are not “before and after” gene-expression modification, they are of two poorly-identified subjects, one supposedly religious of the fanatical sort, and the other “not particularly religious”), or they would have shown that.

Therefore, it shows: a man, speaking in an auditorium to a minuscule audience, about an idea that religious extremism in Afghanistan could be impacted by modifying gene expression, using a virus, which I assume from context would be somehow modified to affect expression of a specific gene. It sounds highly speculative, it sounds untested, it sounds like the presenter is hoping to get his “plan” approved, it sounds like there is no eagerness in the audience about the proposed project.

The suggestion that this is Bill Gates presenting to *any* government agency about using fake virus outbreaks to genetically alter the brain of living persons and thereby control them cannot be proved by the clip. Getting there requires HUGE assumptions that aren’t supported, or even pointed at, by the clip.

Shaggyballs posted this multiple times, claiming it as “absolute proof” of his conclusion-jumping fear of - well, many things. I think it proves nothing beyond his desperation to find *anything* to back up his apparent paranoia. The comments below the clip (your link) show (IMO) a paranoid willingness to ignore everything in the video in favor of an already well-established belief in persecution, which allows them to see (and hear) this as validation of the least reasonable conclusions possible.

I realize that my comments, deriving as they do from the contents of the video, and from personal general knowledge, will not persuade you of anything - except perhaps that I, too, am ‘one of them’; but you did ask, and I have answered you with complete honesty.

my own comments: I have real doubts as to whether this idea - that expression of a specific gene can be accomplished, that the change of expression will change the current functioning of a living brain as opposed to the next generation (in which it would need to be DOMINANT in the population, not merely present), the idea that this could be done with a virus *or* vaccine, the idea the effects of that modified expression would be specific and foreseeable - is liable to pan out.

For one thing, I think that outcome would require far more knowledge, far more skill, far more long-term experience in genetic modification that we have. I think that if such capabilities were in fact ‘scientifically available’, and that if this were in fact a Gates-level actor, the presentation would have been more focused, more informative, the audience larger, the questions more audible and direct, the audience more active.

In short, I am not persuaded of anything by this clip except the willingness to read what they want into what they see.

You have plagiarized what I was going to say...took the words out of my mouth.

besides a quick search produced;
https://www.ibtimes.sg/bill-gates-briefs-cia-about-mind-altering-drug-leaked-video-here-truth-45524

https://www.davisvanguard.org/2020/05/commentary-anatomy-of-a-conspiracy-theory/

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...i-vaxx-video-doesnt-violate-youtubes-policies

Hempy, as I suggested before scrutiny is highly in order

The ignorance of the segment of the population that exalts this stuff is truly frightening.

OMG.....did you hear about Bill Gates? This is his plan to take over the world. Him and Fauci.

OMG, OMG what will we do?
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
Veteran
Hi all.It's really very simple
Biden being Biden will get Trump re elected
Trump being Trump will get Trump re elected
You don't have to like it.
You can cry all you want
The from left field last min entry maybe Michele or Billary will get Trump re elected
Sanders, Warren ,AOC,Fat Jerry,Crazy Nancy,Pencil neck Schiff,will get Trump re elected
Theres a common theme here folks,Trump's getting re elected.
Discuss :

You just stole iRawrrrawrr's theft of Coffee Talk.

I hope you don't tell on yourselves.

How about facing grim reality that you have tongued Trump butthole long enough that we're fucked....?

Still gonna double down he made America great again?

He stole the line from Regan.

We're double fucked again.

Just quit dancing and singing and admit a dumb idea when you see it.

Anybody admitting Trump was a bad idea sounds brilliant next to the crowd screaming four more years.

Wake up or wake me up.

I can't believe he duped that many countrymen.
 

'Boogieman'

Well-known member
You just stole iRawrrrawrr's theft of Coffee Talk.

I hope you don't tell on yourselves.

How about facing grim reality that you have tongued Trump butthole long enough that we're fucked....?

Still gonna double down he made America great again?

He stole the line from Regan.

We're double fucked again.

Just quit dancing and singing and admit a dumb idea when you see it.

Anybody admitting Trump was a bad idea sounds brilliant next to the crowd screaming four more years.

Wake up or wake me up.

I can't believe he duped that many countrymen.

Still crying because you didn't get your way huh?
 

Klompen

Active member
I find the inability to weigh the actual damage of Trump’s reign against the acknowledged and largely meaningless fabrications of Biden truly astonishing. As if Biden appropriating the political strikes of another politician, fudging a college paper, and cobbling together a campaign proposal out of the proposals of competing candidates was in any way as monstrous, as devastating, as harmful as - or in any way comparable to - the actions of the Trump regime during its time in power.

I heard the same sort of crap back in the time of Gore vs. Bush Jr. or Clinton vs. Bush Sr. The thought is that if only we empower the "resistance", things will improve. Things don't improve though, because guys like Obama and Clinton do so much evil under the radar of partisans who are unable to even notice it is happening. Clinton locked up more blacks and launched more missiles than any president before him. Nothing gets better, because fools think that electing this or that guy is going to fix the system. No single politician can fix this shit show. Its way beyond salvation in many regards.
 
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