The 2020 Presidential Election

[Hammerhead]

Obummer did many things wrong policy wise.. The man is a saint compared to Trump. Not only has Trump put forth crappy policies he's morally bankrupt.

 

[packerfan79]

couldn't disagree more, but, that's ok.
it doesn't make me the devil. or right winger. or a "Trumpkin" or any other ridiculous stereotype that you can think of.


Bottom line is WE hold the keys to the castle and when we fight over the "my side is better.." the 1% get to enjoy the pool bar and the sunset walks along the battlements.


dig?


Stay focused on the endgame. The whole other half of the country disagrees with your assessment, and THAT is the problem......lack of compromise from BOTH sides. Compromising is what (used to) make the US a killer place to be. In a good way.
Biden OR Trump isn't the problem.....its US. The 99%.


I cherish your opinion and while I may disagree, I will defend, to the death your right to speak it. That isn't just a quote that I take lightly. No true American, natural born or not, should.


-cap

Who actually are the 1%. All Americans are the 1% of the world. The 1% isn't some static group of evil people. Those who are at the top 1% can change from year to year. Most are older people, since they have had a longer time to learn marketable skills, and accumulate wealth. Hating the one percent is no different than hating any other group based on the actions of a few.

The 1 % is just a convenient Boogieman( not our friend Boogieman).They are people the same as you and I. Just people, some good, some terrible, most somewhere in the middle.

Much respect that you embrace the foundational principle of liberalism. I to will defend your right to speak also.

 

[Hammerhead]

see they don't even know the 1% doesn't change. Hasn't changed in +50 years. Those that are 1% make billions every quarter. These people rarely change there status as 1%

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Hello all,

Buahahahahaha, at least at this point, it looks like obamamgate just hit a brick wall.

Barr doesn't expect Obama, Biden criminal investigations

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...am-probe-to-lead-to-criminal-investigation-of

trumphumper's heads are exploding all over the US. buahahahahaha


well, you always have..."what about her emails" to keep you warm at night, ay?

minds_I

He said, "Based on the evidence I have today..."
What evidence will he have tomorrow? I hear the Declass is going to continue thru mid July. Plus, Senate hearings of the underlings will begin very soon. I imagine the US military is also uncovering evidence in the ongoing 'enhanced narcotics' operations. Durham recently added narcotics and violent crimes investigators to the ever expanding investigation. The scope is widening, just as a probe into any criminal conspiracy should.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

fair enough. he is a boorish moron. crooked as well. honestly speaking, was Hillary any different because she came in a more polished package?
it is my view that the ones most qualified for the position of president, are smart enough not to run for the job. In the current environment, of course. Maybe if we get rid of the notion of career politicians we can get some, truly, qualified, and effective, and respectable leadership.....





While we fight among ourselves, the 1% sit back and laugh. And get richer and more powerful.


The exact thing I was referring to when I say this "my side is better than your side" crap is clouding the real goal.... which is to eliminate the 1% iron grip that squeezes the US, and the rest of the civilized world, into submission and dependence.


This will never be achieved if we keep this "my side is better than your side" mentality.


We're all better than that, and, I believe the rest of the world would wish we would snap out of this endless cycle as fast as possible.


Love one another. And focus on the long game....not these petty squabbles that only makes that 1% more and more powerful.


-cap

The problem is that distinction isn't a goal.

I contend that my position on Trump supporters who actually revere the "man" has been misconstrued as blanketed hatred of everything GOP.

People don't hear what is said nearly as much as they hear what they need to say what they like.

It's easier to reply to your own questions.

I agree, but I urge you to see the masses are already frenzied. They're talking about civil war before revolution crosses their minds.

Reasonable you are.... however the current excuse for a society isn't exactly capable of your capacity.



Signed
A straight moderate who votes for as many Republicans as he does Democrats that has been slandered into a gay libtard within the confines of this very thread by the mental midgets of my former mentioning

Good day sir.

:friends:

 

[packerfan79]

see they don't even know the 1% doesn't change. Hasn't changed in +50 years. Those that are 1% make billions every quarter. These people rarely change there status as 1%

I am sorry you hate everyone you disagree with, or have more money than you deem proper, it must be a miserable life.

The hatred is consuming your soul, its sad to see. To bad because you create some nice genetics. I wonder how many people would have bought your product, if you didn't demean them.

 

[hubcap]

Honestly, Hammerhead....
What career politician isn't morally bankrupt?


What career politician pleases all the people all the time??


Even a Reagan or a Kennedy disappointed a large portion of the US. And both we're by most accounts, excellent leaders. [And, yes, cherry pick the bad decisions all you want, but, both were effective leaders.]


Honest questions. That deserves and honest (unbiased) answer.


So, where do we go from here? Keep arguing?
Or just accept the two people we have to choose from (at this point) don't motivate more than half the country?


Lets put down the finger pointing and let's hear some solutions...……


Its my view the solutions start by dropping the "my guy/gal is better than your guy/gal.
And term limits.


But, that's just my opinion. Being tired of the arguing and all...…..I prefer to hear solutions.


-cap

 

[hubcap]

Who actually are the 1%. All Americans are the 1% of the world. The 1% isn't some static group of evil people. Those who are at the top 1% can change from year to year. Most are older people, since they have had a longer time to learn marketable skills, and accumulate wealth. Hating the one percent is no different than hating any other group based on the actions of a few.

The 1 % is just a convenient Boogieman( not our friend Boogieman).They are people the same as you and I. Just people, some good, some terrible, most somewhere in the middle.

The 1% I refer to aren't the ones that earned their way to the top.
Its the OLLLLLD powers. The Bilderberg's, etc... Not the Gates, and Bezos' of the world.
Im talking about the people WAY above them. Not just in dollars/wealth.....but power.

Much respect that you embrace the foundational principle of liberalism. I to will defend your right to speak also.

Nice try. I admire your attempts at word play and will continue to defend your right to play such games.
Liberalism that your refer to isn't remotely close to what Im alluding to. I support those that go out there and hustle. And get rich from doing so.
Im not talking about taking wealth from the haves to give to the have-nots.


Im talking about up-ending the power of the 1%. Which is, indeed, two different things. Pretty easy to see the difference, if, of course, you take the time to see it.


-cap

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Lets put down the finger pointing and let's hear some solutions...……

Revolution

 

[igrowone]

if term limits are a measure of how we can recover our democracy
then it's a very depressing measure
been quite a while since i've heard term limits mentioned as a serious election topic

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Is it any different when the last guy had the seat?
He could do NO wrong.
NO ONE, even the media, called him on anything.
And no one would call him out for the same reason no one will call Trump out....
The accusers, on both sides, are complicit. Plain and simple. Theyre ALL crooks. Some are just better snake oil salesmen and women than others.


But, again....just another example of what Ive been harping on.....
"my side is better than your side" crap.


Seems there is no end in sight, so, lets collectively look forward to more of the same ol same ol.




-cap

I absolutely believe in the uniparty. But, do you not see an anomaly here with Trump? When has the media and other institutional assets of US or global empire ever gone against an administration?
Do you think he's secretly working with people like Adam Schiff to "game" the public? Psy-ops? That's the only alternative that I can find. Otherwise, it looks to me like Trump is the figure head of a global purge of Rogue operators by a very well planned and coordinated counter-intelligence operation (counter coup).

 

[St. Phatty]

see they don't even know the 1% doesn't change. Hasn't changed in +50 years. Those that are 1% make billions every quarter. These people rarely change there status as 1%

A lot of Americans have Stockholm Syndrome.

The US gov. arbitrarily creates a "Federal Hedge Fund Insurance Corp." and bails out the 1%, using the Covid19 economic bump as a reason.

Just like they backstopped Madoff's All-Jewish investors to the tune of $65 Billion 10 years ago.

based only on his confession of fraud. after writing the law that defines fraud as requiring an explicit confession of fraud - which hardly ever happens in fraud cases.

Just another example of the Long Con ... and the American people take it up the Ass willingly and act as if justice has been done !!!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/64b-bailout-for-madoff-victims-are-they-victims/

 

[xavier7995]

So hubcap, got any proposals for how to fix the 99% being divided? I agree with your assertion that both parties serve ye olde powers that be, but whats to be done about it? I think its valid to criticize "the other side" if they express views you disagree with and go with whatever party most closely resembles your views. The other options i see are trying for a 3rd party or sitting it out; third party is fine, but I think it splits the vote amongst people that agree on most sides of an issue while just sitting out and refusing to vote for the evil of two lessers just takes you out of the process/discussion.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

The problem is that distinction isn't a goal.

I contend that my position on Trump supporters who actually revere the "man" has been misconstrued as blanketed hatred of everything GOP.

People don't hear what is said nearly as much as they hear what they need to say what they like.

It's easier to reply to your own questions.

I agree, but I urge you to see the masses are already frenzied. They're talking about civil war before revolution crosses their minds.

Reasonable you are.... however the current excuse for a society isn't exactly capable of your capacity.



Signed
A straight moderate who votes for as many Republicans as he does Democrats that has been slandered into a gay libtard within the confines of this very thread by the mental midgets of my former mentioning

Good day sir.

:friends:

Ought oh we got a manifesto !!!

Hey Hempy what do ya come up with if ya google this one

 

[packerfan79]

Globally speaking the top 1% makes 32 grand a year. That would encompass the vast majority of Americans.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050615/are-you-top-one-percent-world.asp

@ St. Phatty, even in the U.S. the vast majority of the 1% make significantly less than a million dollars a year. On average its around 400k a year. Not billions per quarter some claim.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/07/27...errer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

 

[armedoldhippy]

What I would really like are the conversations surrounding Obama , and pallets of cash,and other currency being delivered to an Iranian tarmac.

I bet that would be some interesting reading material to keep beside the toilet,full of fiber me thinks

are you still babbling about the money that BELONGED to Iran which we had frozen in the accounts? you still do not understand that it WAS THEIR MONEY? debunked every time it is mentioned, but you still dig it up because you have nothing else to say...whatever...

 

[hubcap]

But, do you not see an anomaly here with Trump?

Not really. Hes just more transparent in his corruption and incompetence than that last line of morons that have led this country.

When has the media and other institutional assets of US or global empire ever gone against an administration?

No better example than the current environment. Cant tell me that 'assets of the US' aren't publicly trying to upend the (fairly elected) Mango Mussolini.

Do you think he's secretly working with people like Adam Schiff to "game" the public?

No. I don't.

Psy-ops? That's the only alternative that I can find. Otherwise, it looks to me like Trump is the figure head of a global purge of Rogue operators by a very well planned and coordinated counter-intelligence operation (counter coup).

Not gonna argue. I do feel there is a coordinated effort by the "other side" to null the legal election of a US president. Like him or not. Its actually quite frightening, cuz, like him or not, there will be a day when the "other" party takes power and to think this very same thing won't happen again...……? We can bet on it happening again, and the other half of the country will be up in arms. Ho-hum. Here we go again....


Very frightening, indeed. Very worrisome. That isn't what America is about.


Circling back to the point Ive been (trying to make) all along....


Ditch the "my side vs your side" crap. Its going to do more damage than all the nukes in the world. Combined.


Good chat, folks. Im going to bed now. Work tomorrow and all that.....


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[Hempy McNoodle]

They're talking about civil war before revolution crosses their minds.

That shit concerns me too. Ever seen the film 'Jesus Camp?' Terrifying. People really need to unite. This right left shit is dumb. I admit I go after dems. But, that's only because they are frothing with hate for a man who's trying to save them.

 

['Boogieman']

are you still babbling about the money that BELONGED to Iran which we had frozen in the accounts? you still do not understand that it WAS THEIR MONEY? debunked every time it is mentioned, but you still dig it up because you have nothing else to say...whatever...

We shouldn't be giving a terrorist nation money even if it's theirs to begin with, fuck Iran.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Ought oh we got a manifesto !!!

Hey Hempy what do ya come up with if ya google this one

Some Rock and Roll band from the 1950's it looks like...