Test Results from breeders

[GnarlsBarkley]

I find it odd that with cannabinoid profile testing being so cheap why don't breeders have test results for their strains?

Am I crazy for thinking this is the kind of thing that should be an industry standard? I know some breeders will say "high thc" or "above 20%" but very few actually back up their seeds with results from reputable 3rd party labs.

I wonder as the industry is more regulated and testing more common if this is something we'll see or if it would eat up sales for any strain that isn't the highest thc too much for the breeders to do it.

 

[Gr33nSanta]

My guess is that most of them are disappointed with the actual numbers and prefer not to advertise 18% THC if they can advertise as ''strong'' instead. That's why I like tga, a lot of their strains on their menu come with a lab report.

Also, a couple years back when I had more time, I used to test some of my varieties with a home test kit from montana biotech company i think it was called. One of my Pennywise tested 1:1 THC CBD ratio. It really gave me confidence in subcool's gear.

For me now one of the main thing I really want to know when I purchase a strain is the terpenes profile, all about terpenes...

 

[Morphote]

It will become standard practice. Getting ready to have 4 or 5 of my cuts tested, but only the cuts that I like to grow/smoke. If it lacks in flavor and/or effect then I don't care if it's numbers are off the charts.

M.

 

[maliali]

thc perecent of parrents strains i uselles cuz u dont know what is recesive gen. only to test 50 ofsprings its good to me. but yes it is better. Some parrents have high thc like Amnesia but she is in offspring very mellow not so strong high...

 

[MJPassion]

I find it odd that with cannabinoid profile testing being so cheap why don't breeders have test results for their strains?

Am I crazy for thinking this is the kind of thing that should be an industry standard? I know some breeders will say "high thc" or "above 20%" but very few actually back up their seeds with results from reputable 3rd party labs.

I wonder as the industry is more regulated and testing more common if this is something we'll see or if it would eat up sales for any strain that isn't the highest thc too much for the breeders to do it.

The answer is actually quite simple and has nothing to do with numbers either...

MOST, not all, cannot guarantee a specific terp profile or potency because MOST are working with multi hybrid lines.
There is near ZERO breeders that are actually working their lines & creating true breeding varietals that can be bred together in order to produce a stabilized consistent line or lines.

 

[edobio]

Hi everybody. I was guessing about insert ing in my breeding a parent line from the hemp variety Finola, which is a commercial strain fast growing, auto and diocious. do you think it make sense to mix up genetic pool between high thc strains and hemp varieties?

 

[GnarlsBarkley]

The answer is actually quite simple and has nothing to do with numbers either...

MOST, not all, cannot guarantee a specific terp profile or potency because MOST are working with multi hybrid lines.
There is near ZERO breeders that are actually working their lines & creating true breeding varietals that can be bred together in order to produce a stabilized consistent line or lines.

Which is just as outrageous. They should all be striving to make their line as stable as possible so the customer gets the pheno they advertise. If they can't get it down to one pheno take multiple tests and list the variation online, it's not like a breeding company can't afford it but they'd rather be shady.

 

[GnarlsBarkley]

Hi everybody. I was guessing about insert ing in my breeding a parent line from the hemp variety Finola, which is a commercial strain fast growing, auto and diocious. do you think it make sense to mix up genetic pool between high thc strains and hemp varieties?

You can try it but the seeds would all have different genetics and would take a long time of inbreeding to stabilize. You might be able to work in some cbd into your plant but expect THC to go down.

I think I'd rather work with a high cbd drug plant than a hemp plant though, lots of undesirable characteristics of hemp plants you don't want.

 

[edobio]

Thanks. I'm with you,Cbd strains like Cbd therapy can do the trick. What about auto trait? Most of genetics available range from 15-20% of ruderalis gene pool, only. Including such feature in a new selection wouldn't be a easy task.choosing the right autoflowering strain could help in this respect. Do U have something to recommend I should start from?

 

[GnarlsBarkley]

Autos have more CBD in them generally, I do not know much about auto strain lineage though, sorry. I'm sure someone else around here or in the Autoflower section might though.

 

[Fuel]

That's sound perfect on the paper but hunting the perfect cannabinoid chart don't give you the specimen that you eventually need to close your line.

The chart will not tell you how the offspring will grow, your background on the line and your specific knownledge on specimens will. If you don't do anything before, you're just playing blackjack with seeds.

I don't doubt that it is a good tool to offer a good documentation on a strain (i mean a final release), in giving the average profile of the specimens that can be found.

A good tool too, to test a line in veryfying the profile rates (improve/decrease in using a specific male or female) ... but as an element of selection, i've hard time to imagine how to integrate this coef in the final note.

Add to it that these charts are not complete, the most important being the human factor imho. Somes cuts will destroy your friends the same way with a "shitty chart", others will not and samples ignored with a theorical "perfect chart" ...

 

[Weird]

potential is one animal, expression another

some secondary metabolite production such as specific terpenes is reduced by the same condition that stimulates primary metabolite expression

science is out there as is the observational reality, not too many people seem to get it though