Tell me why we cycle?

[Reasmokes]

I understand why grow cycles are important and for my outdoor,i have always run a 24/7 for veg for the first 2wks.Then i cut the light back to 12 on 12 off to sex them,once i've pulled all males,then i'd go to a 18 on16 off till i can get them out after the last full moon in may.When we could bye seeds from Amsterdam in the day,they couldn't be sure what they were giving you for seed,whether it was male or female.So these were their instructions at that time for getting the most females out of the seeds you ordered.Hense my question about light cycles,everyone of these herbs has a natural growth cycle of it's own right?So anything that defers from that would ad some kind of stress.So why don't we try to grow the strain in it's natural clmate?Especially indoors?I'am all new at this indoor stuff,so i'am kinda woundering why nobody talks about natural grow cycles?Are they too hard to munipulate?Well thats it in a nut shell(my nut shell)thanks!

 

[ZeusOGrefugee]

Im not reallly sure what ur getting at, but the whole point of differing light cycles indoors is to mimic the natural growth cycle of cannabis. Hence vegging on 18/6, and then 12/12 for flowering!!! Some people slowly change from 18 to 12 in the course of a few weeks, but Ive never tried it...Hope that helped..Peace

- Z

 

[Reasmokes]

Yea kinda i quess?I smoke alot so sometimes i can't get my point across very well but in nature all plants have a natural cycle right?Your saying that 18/6 for veg.and 12/12 for flowerng is the natural cycle for all cannabis?Then yes that answeres part of my question ,now why don't we try to make are lights mimic the sun(slowly increasing or decreasing) or how cannabis grows naturally outdoors in its original state?Would this make a differance?Do you see were i'am going,it's like how did pot grow before man tampered with it?In it's original state?

 

[Gangsta Lean]

man thats to much u gotta change the timer every day
know me i'd fuck it up one day n shit would b off
18/6 veg
12/12 flower
im coo wit just that hommie

 

[Wiimote]

I think deep down in there, Reasmokes has a potentially valid point. We all know more light equals more growth assuming every other variable is the same. We also know that with 18/6, 20/4, 24/0 our girls will veg (simulates early season). We also know that with 12/12 they will flower (simulates end of season).

What I think Reaseason is getting at is that area between 18/6 and 12/12. Some plants will flower at 14/10. Other strains will not. I only know this because I had three different bagseeds going and screwed up my lighting for over 4 weeks (such a dumbass sometimes). Of the three bagseeds I had in the cab at that time, one flowered at 14/10, and the other two flowered when I fixed the timer to 12/12. Maybe some strains do have an "optimum" light cycle?

 

[Reasmokes]

Now where getting some where,not only with optimum light but temp and soil to mimic a strains natural cycle for optimum bud from a strain.thanks for the positive imput and i'd like to hash this out somemore,peace!

 

[f0urtwenty]

your theory rests on these two assumptions:

Hense my question about light cycles,everyone of these herbs has a natural growth cycle of it's own right?So anything that defers from that would ad some kind of stress.

Nowadays all the herbs would be hybrids that probably wouldn't have happened naturally. However, your point is still valid...ie, if it's Afghani, grow it to Afghanistan light cycles, or Hindu to Hindu, etc.

I don't think that anything that defers from that would be some kind of stress. If you think a lot of the plants in their natural habitat don't get optimal soil. I'm sure there's some nutrient deficiency on most wild grown herbs. Also, each persons definition of optimal would be different. For instance, would it be optimal to give your plants more light than natural. One would have to argue that the additional light and growth would be detrimental to the plant.

I don't think those two sentences are both true, making the whole argument null. Sorry to burst your bubble. We all get to play God a little bit, and not to say He didn't do it right to begin with, but we get to modify everything and optimize all the different aspects. Growing is learning.

 

[Wiimote]

I think it is possible that each strain would prefer a certain light schedule to flower under, however I'm not so sure that it would be worth the work of finding that "perfect" schedule.

Take my screw up as an example, 1 plant flowered just fine under 14/10, while 2 others would not. Would flowering that plant out under 14/10 all the way have increased it's yield? Assuming that more hours of light leads to better growth, it should (12/12 working better than 10/14 for example, both will flower out, but the 12/12 will produce more).

 

[TrustNoOne]

or maybe one strain flowers sooner than the other.
it is an interesting question.