Tea Article

[Cannasseur]

Sounds good MM, much appreciated.

Would it be more effective, if I made a treatment with neem oil before applying any ACT or just let the microbes duke it out?

 

[CT Guy]

MM can voice his opinion, but I'm inclined to deal with the problem and then come back with the compost tea as a means of repopulating the soil/leaf surface with beneficial biology that may have been killed during your treatment.

 

[Microbeman]

MM can voice his opinion, but I'm inclined to deal with the problem and then come back with the compost tea as a means of repopulating the soil/leaf surface with beneficial biology that may have been killed during your treatment.

Do you think that b. subtilis will kill off the microbes found in (vermi)compost? They are commonly found in soil so reason stands that there will already be some in the (vermi)compost. I was assuming they might work together if raised in the same neighborhood (brewer) at the same time.

 

[Microbeman]

Sounds good MM, much appreciated.

Would it be more effective, if I made a treatment with neem oil before applying any ACT or just let the microbes duke it out?

I'm not real experienced with neem oil but I'd tend to just use the tea.

 

[localhero]

i regularly brew my serenade/microbe lift products/compost together. infact im doin it now. i figured it was like buying a bottle and getting a barrel in return.

oh yeah and thanks MM! i now use a venturi brewer freakin awesome!!!!!!!!

 

[CT Guy]

Do you think that b. subtilis will kill off the microbes found in (vermi)compost? They are commonly found in soil so reason stands that there will already be some in the (vermi)compost. I was assuming they might work together if raised in the same neighborhood (brewer) at the same time.

We did some testing with Serenade a while back before I joined the company. The SFI test on it came back poor. Of course, they don't identify what specific organisms are present, but the bacterial/fungal numbers were lower than our other tests.

I consider inconclusive though, due to the testing methodology. They could end up being consumed as well by the other microbes (flagellates, etc...), hence why I would recommend just applying it first as a treatment and then following later with ACT.

 

[Microbeman]

Makes sense.

 

[Cloud 9]

wow alot of great info in this thread!

subscribing for reference.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

CT Guy

I picked up one of these 15-gallon tanks with a stand for under $120.00 - now all I have to do is figure out the discharge system as well as the best option for the aeration manifold.

Not too shabby, eh?

CC

 

[Clackamas Coot]

I'm not real experienced with neem oil but I'd tend to just use the tea.

MM

Not that it means too much but CT Guy was kind enough to test out the seed meal that I mix up and use which contains neem seed meal. His testing results didn't seem to indicate a negative impact on the tea's viability.

I'll figure out the percentage of neem seed meal that was included - it's not a minor amount.

HTH

CC

 

[jaykush]

I picked up one of these 15-gallon tanks with a stand for under $120.00 - now all I have to do is figure out the discharge system as well as the best option for the aeration manifold.

Not too shabby, eh?

i just put together a brewer with a tank like that, its a 50 gallon though. at the bottom i have a short pipe with a split, the lower one goes to the pump and the upper one goes to a hose with a hand valve to application. works good, easy to clean, and cheap to make( cost like 6$ at the hardware store) the lower one has a shut off valve so when its time to empty i can close it so no sediment goes into the pipe for the aeration. drains all of it but id say a cup of tea if that.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

i just put together a brewer with a tank like that, its a 50 gallon though. at the bottom i have a short pipe with a split, the lower one goes to the pump and the upper one goes to a hose with a hand valve to application. works good, easy to clean, and cheap to make( cost like 6$ at the hardware store) the lower one has a shut off valve so when its time to empty i can close it so no sediment goes into the pipe for the aeration. drains all of it but id say a cup of tea if that.

JK

That sounds like exactly what I want/need. I need to head over to MM's website and figure out the proper pump size for 10 gallons of tea. I'm thinking that brewing 10 gallons in a 15 gallon tank would be my best route.

BTW - the company that I bought this from has tanks up to 11,500 gallons! Delivery costs alone would be over $5,000.00 to Oregon - yikes!

CC

 

[jaykush]

yea those cone bottom tanks can get pretty expensive. i got mine for free because it was used. the guy used to filter veggie oil through it to make biodiesel. was really easy to clean out and now its perfect for ACT.

 

[SecretGardener]

So I have been making teas for a few months now and applying them to my plants. The plants have been doing great but all that tells me is the tea isnt hurting them. I now want to dig a little deeper and look at the microbes - problem being I need a microscope. I really can't afford to drop $300-$600 dollars on a scope that I am going to use a handful of times...I found a couple of cheap ones that go up 600x zoom, will this work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vivitar-Micro-V...1200X-NEW-/360291397221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

I don't care about comfort or ability to record or take pictures. I just want to see what my teas look like the way I am doing it now and change some variables and watch the difference etc...

 

[localhero]

whats up jay and clack!

i was wondering if its a bad idea to brew your tea outside. my 55 gal mm style brewer is under the veranda in my yard. one of my plants has started to get hit pretty bad with bud rot and i cant help but think it was in a small part atleast, from the possibility of bud rot spores getting into my brewer. could this happen? could i be brewing bud rot and pm spores?

 

[jaykush]

sorry to hear about your budrot problems, hopefully you can clear it up.

i brew all my teas outside, usually its made close to where i need it so i don't have to haul it so far. usually under oak trees, but occasionally put it under my fruit trees. i highly doubt you could be brewing and multiplying bud rot or pm spores in your ACT. specially if your using good compost. i would be more worried about getting rid of the spots on the plant and keeping that from spreading.

 

[localhero]

well its just the one plant, shes the runt. interesting paradigm that clones from the same plant are the biggest and smallest in that garden. its location is precarious as it doesnt recieve morning sun. every day i pick off rot from that plant.

good to hear others are brewing out in the open so to speak, thanks Jay!

it does make me wonder about the possibility of mold spores getting into to act and growing with the rest of the goodness.

 

[jaykush]

im sure that if we actually knew how many PM or bud rot spores were just in the air alone we would freak out lol.

i wouldn't worry, chances are the worst thing is a non cannabis plant near by infested with PM rather than your ACT.

 

[CT Guy]

So I have been making teas for a few months now and applying them to my plants. The plants have been doing great but all that tells me is the tea isnt hurting them. I now want to dig a little deeper and look at the microbes - problem being I need a microscope. I really can't afford to drop $300-$600 dollars on a scope that I am going to use a handful of times...I found a couple of cheap ones that go up 600x zoom, will this work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vivitar-Micro-V...1200X-NEW-/360291397221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

I don't care about comfort or ability to record or take pictures. I just want to see what my teas look like the way I am doing it now and change some variables and watch the difference etc...

At that price, I'd guess the quality of the objectives and lenses is quite poor and the lighting can't be very good. Have you read MM's microscope advisory? I like having 10X, 20X, and 40X objectives. With a 10X eyepiece, that translates to 100X, 200X and 400X. I never use my oil immersion 100X objective. No need....

 

[guest2012y]

well its just the one plant, shes the runt. interesting paradigm that clones from the same plant are the biggest and smallest in that garden. its location is precarious as it doesnt recieve morning sun. every day i pick off rot from that plant.

good to hear others are brewing out in the open so to speak, thanks Jay!

it does make me wonder about the possibility of mold spores getting into to act and growing with the rest of the goodness.

I'm now brewing 55 gallons about every two weeks outside for the girls outside....under a maple. Something I've noticed is that temp. affects how long to brew for. Getting some nice teas out there for some reason.