TAG - Landing (Resource for True Aero Growing)

[Guest]

I would imagine the bio nozzles or the PSI/DANs would work most effectively without clogging. The best idea is to use a 200 screen filter and 100 psi pressure as it helps eliminate clogs much more than lower pressure and coarser filters. The xls tend to clog fairly easy with any organic material, the Toros not as much, but there is no way to do anything about them if they do.

The others are designed more for this application and if I were to be vacant I'd go with those. Someone posted a really nice nozzle for about $1.50 a piece that was very similar to the BioControl ones, but I forget who or where....sorry.

The evaporative cooling is just a trick for conserving energy, it depends more on your arrangement. If you can, draw out a floor plan and I'll give you my advice on it if you'd like?

The odd thing is with my EvaPod my humidity is actually lower than without it. I average between 38 and 46% now. Not bad considering it is 78-87% outside daily and temps in the high 80's.

 

[TAG-monk]

thks , that a nice offer! the problem is i have only acces to paint lol,..anyway i will try to draw something not bad tomorow,..iam a bit too stoned right now hehe.

 

[Guest]

16th Day of Flower

16th Day of Flower

DM1 is the Bomb!

I have to say this product is blowing me away and I understand now what all the hype is about. Excellent product...can't say that enough.

I just got my new Ph meter, controller , and look at my Ph after 4 days of no idea adding RO and a couple caps of DM1 Flower, Potash and Grow....not freakin' bad at all! Which you can see in the plants.

Now I'm telling you I love Botanicare, but my ph would have been like 4.something or 7. something for sure. This baby holds her ph very nicely for TAGing.

I'm still very impressed.



Like I said, the Sats love this environment...the RhinoxBlues are just in heaven...



Now JAT - these are a couple of my TW clones...are they too small, should I top? What is your suggestion? And I lost the tag on this one, I think it is an old TW mom..can you confirm?



Now with the exception of the TW there...look at how healthy all the leaves look...I'm just really impressed....and they are flowering so they are pulling the Ca and K. I can see that the drop in ph is the K still...I'm at 1480 ppms today. I think 1800 would be totally acceptable, here again...myth busted!

 

[Guest]

Just for fun, cause you know I love comparisons...The RhinoxBlue

Cut on August 26th, vegged and then flowered. This is about 2 weeks worth of growth...




By the way...I love this new Milwaukee Ph Controller...so cool, now I can just glance in the room to see if the little red light is on or not, it has been holding all day at 5.5 So no worries.

I think I'll get the TDS one too..they are only like $80...and it has a relayed plug which will run a doser of your choice...how sweet is that? You could probably just hook up a dripper with the PotashPlus as I just added a cap and it balanced it at 5.6 perfectly...I'm investing in DM1 series...definitely

 

[TAG-monk]

TAG room coming

TAG room coming

I will post in PM this diagram to PR, but i have think to post it here to, so it should be fun to watch the evolution of the a TAG monk room! [/IMG]

 

[TAG-monk]

 

[HOVAH]

Skunk 1 again!!

Skunk 1 again!!

Come to think of it YES!, it is under rated ...my friends and i would constantly put it down , saying it was alright middle of the pack stuff... but i would smoke all day long, because i knew it couldnt hurt me and my friends would always bug me for more the shit was good shit !!! soo please your Holyness could your kind , gracious soul spare a clone to a huricane victum...lol ......... just kinding i do wish it was in my garden again 1HOVAH

 

[TAG-monk]

lol HOVAH, once my mothers establish i would send u some clone for sure, but do they gonna survive the travel? lol anyhow, i have always wondering if a trans-antlatic clone shipment could work. This way we could get clone of the real cheese right from England.

 

[JustATry]

I will have some pics for you guys tomorrow. My camera is dead and I don't have my charger right now. Shit is insane though, really. I would say at least a 1/2" of growth everyday right now. I just flipped to 12/12, I literally can't wait any longer for height reasons.

I went through and trimmed the lower half on most of the cuttings, but in a different manner. I had to leave a good chunk of the lowest branch on to support the plant. Otherwise I am assuming it will just pull through the neoprene collar because of the weight from the roots. Maybe in TAG w/ collars you can't trim?!?! We'll see...

Roots are looking amazing. The 'fishboning' and 'pom-poms' are starting to show on some of the Blueberry's. This is in the table with the Toro Ag foggers too - so maybe these are hitting the 50µ mark.

PR - I don't think you should top that TW now. Honestly, I think it would do more harm than good at this point. She is pretty small and I don't think she would produce anymore at this point. That other plant doesn't look like a TW to me - doesn't have the definition in the leaves that TW is characteristic of. Possisibly a HOG or BBxWR clone. Can you get a couple better pics of the internode’s? I will definitely be able to tell once buds start to set in though if you are still curious.

Monk - My drain is a little odd, but works perfectly. My problem was my rez was above my tables. So I needed a solution to collect my returning water from the tables and get it back to the rez. So I installed two shower drains in the tables with 3/4" elbows on them. This then changes to a barbed adapter and feeds a tube that is tap'ed into a 5 gallon bucket. The bucket fills as the rez drains collecting the runoff. Then a pump kicks on, synchronized with my solenoid valve, and pumps all the water out of the bucket and back to the rez.

Following are a couple of pics. If you need more detail just let me know and I can take more pics tomorrow.

 

[Guest]

Ok, now two questions...lol

JAT - Why is your res above your root zone? And second...why don't you just run your drain line to a res on the ground like I have? If you leave a little in the bottom of the table it isn't an issue. Also, the wider the res the more water you can actually have.

You are about to experience TAG JAT - This is where you sit down, lock your restrains in...and get ready to blast off! It will all be over in a very short period, like a rollercoaster...except you've got DM1 now...so it is just a straight shot!


By the way that is my problem with this Full Spec MH...I can never tell if I'm going to get stretch or not. Most the time I don't get any but maybe about 8"...lol, no jokes please. I suppose they wont continue to grow anymore huh? I figured they were too small, but they had nice roots so I thought they'd work for zero veg.

That mom might be a HOG or a Blue...I can't recall and it is in the back. I'll have to recount my steps and see if I can't figure it out. The little white tag idea I had has proven useless as they fade and wash out..I should use my label maker I suppose..


T-m, You want 4 tables right? or Do you want to TAG-Maximize the room? I can do you a really fucked up Colli Grow for the room that would be about twice the floor space and only 3 1K lamps...?

 

[TAG-monk]

JAT- thk man that was exactly what i want to know. I think i will design something like a siphon drain,...lets see.

PR- i was planning to do only a table under 3 k watt. the 4 table grow i was talking about is for a future expand in another house. But because u said u can do multiple strain in one rez,...iam not sure anymore what i want to do. The colis grow could surely be more "adapted" to my place, but i have neglate the idea cause that would make my number of plant way up(u cant do 2 foot tall plant hozirontaly). And i remeber u saying in *Running TAG not FAG* (like in your hammock grow) that it should be difficult to run TAG verticaly. But iam open to any idea.

 

[ITCHY.]

G'Day Pod Racer, and thanks for the invite to this site JAT muchly appreciated. Hey PR you might remember me mate, I'm that idiot that was going to do a trash-can run, as Jat called it LOL, Looks like you fellows are under way and some very keen followers you have here allready, good work. I'll just lurk in the background and when i do post some questions, i'll try and make them at least half beneficial to this threads being ok. Looking forward to learning heaps from you guys, and i also see 'where is brian' is in the house too. Thanks again guys and looking forward to some of your pics.

CHEERS..

PEP..

 

[Guest]

Welcome Itchy, yes...we have a pretty nice crew here I'm proud to say.

That trashcan grow isn't such a bad idea really. You can purchase those cans at our local K-Mart for like $6 a can. You could easily create a nice DeepPod TAG tree grow...I don't see why not? lol

Anyway, Glad to see you made it over and we all look forward to your added knowledge and insight, always. :smile:

I totally dig my new Hydrostore, BTW...they carry the entire line of DM now...I'm off to buy them out!

I got the catalog from them as well..online

Here is the extracted ONE schedule:

(if this works)




As I see, I wasn't too far off with my mix at 1080 ppms. I love this product!

 

[guineapig]

Duffman is the bomb......i love McBain though......played by Ranier Wolfcastle...

So once i read the DM chart that POD has provided (thank you pod) i am quite impressed.....i was thinking that not many companies tell you to add potash the week before the lights are switched to 12/12 and flowering is induced.....maybe this is one reason why you were seeing preflowers and flowers set in earlier than ever before, causing you to clone a bit sooner than expected......

also i wonder if all the DM products are designed and experimentally tested to work synergistically with each other......i believe that Advanced Nutrients are designed and tested that way as well......this might lead to several reports that i have read which imply that using only one or two AN products in combination with other companies' products as substitutions doesn't provide the explosive growth like the entire program......but you are going to buy the whole dang line so i guess it doesn't matter!

i wonder why they don't carry a flushing agent for the final week......now come to think of it, all those flushing agents might be a total waste of money.....hmmmmm

 

[Guest]

Yes I believe they are all tested to work synergistically as well as independently.

But I can't let JAT have all the fun...so...



I think we are missing something however. Dutch Masters is out of Australia and Advanced is out of Canada. I don't think they are the same company anymore.

The Rhinos are totally loving it and I'm only a little over two weeks in.



JAT here is a closer look at that mom...Also, The Hydro guy thinks they renamed 'Guardian' in the states as their new product 'Zone' which is their 'root conditioner'. I didn't get it as it was like $22, I did get the Penetrator and Folitech (for you GP) I figured I'll give their whole line a shot and try my hand at Foliar Feeding again....

Another $88 why not? But still no Silica...hmmmm

 

[Guest]

I laid some pipe on Sunday.. hehe. I have a lot more to lay in the next few days. I got the pump, chiller and filter set up and piped back through the wall to the aerobox. Next I have to finish routing the chiller line in and build the fogger manifold, then finish out the tops. I have the sites cut but need to seal in the collers and cover the tops in a layer of 3/4" styrofoam sheet to keep the lights from heat up the box interior.

The stuff laid out and ready to seal up.....


The 200 mesh filter and chiller lines going back through the wall....


A shot of the mother room with the stuff tucked nicely under the moms...


I should have it up and running by the end of this weekend... just in time for these diesels to root and move to their new home....

 

[Guest]

Very Nice GroNut...you never cease to amaze me! Excellent setup..you are so professional, god I wish I could be that tidy. Maybe someday, eh? Really, though...props on the construction, I am even more motivated to buy my new house.

 

[Guest]

Well hey, thanks for the lessons!! :wink: I hope I can put em to good use during the grow as well. I think you may be tasting the results in a little over 10 weeks

New house huh, I can just imagine what kind of features are high (hehe) on your wish list...lol. You moving soon?

 

[Guest]

Well, I've been trying for the past 6 months but can't get enough time to get to it. But yeah; acreage, privacy and more privacy...lol. Large rooms and lots of trees outside. lol

Here is the DM site where you can download all the pdfs you want on the trials and shit...excellent marketing material.

http://www.dutchmaster.com.au/feed_schedule.php

 

[JustATry]

Monk - no problem

ITCHY - are you ABNOID?

PR - I would have to concur with you on the "Guardian" as well. I sent an email to DutchMaster's about it, but it bounced back due to a full box. But my local guy said he can't even order the Guardian in the catalog. So I would think Zone is the new replacement for the states.

Looks like you have the whole lineup as well. I am happy with the results thus far. I started to show a little burning on the leaves, but I don't know if it's from the PBP or the One. It's on some of the newer sets of leaves, but not the most recent. So I don't know. Everything looks good right now.

That mom looks like HOG to me at this point. Wait a couple more weeks and I will be able to tell for sure. But that's my guess right now.

GroNut - way to go man! That shit looks clean, you are quite the carpenter.

And some pics from this morning at lights off...