T8 fluros, SOG or SCROG?

[kbean]

Since im having problems with heat in my current grow i tought of trying fluorescents. A 16x36w t8 rig would give me approx 52k lumens on a 4ftx2ft area. I know the intesity will be diminished in a few inches, so the light rig has to be height controllable. I cant see any scrog grow's done with fluros with search so i tought whats the catch? Is SOG much more effective with flos ?
4 plants instead of 32 would be much more likeable.

 

[ft100]

my educated guess on this would be to not sog if you are using fluoros. even when sogging small plants you need a light that will penetrate further then the fluoros do. i would say that scrogging with fluoros would be better then sogging with fluoros if you were going to use them at all. why dont you tell us about your current setup and we might be able to help you ventilate it right. peace and smoke.

 

[kbean]

i currently have 2x600W in a room about 6x8. There isnt any ventilation, except open window because there is nowhere to ventilate. The temp is about 85F stable, rh 30%. Hm i dont think those fluoros are that bad as most people talk about them. I'v seen pretty descent pics using flos.

 

[randude]

Nowhere to ventilate is not true. With all the flex ducting and whatnot available all you need is an imagination and some money. Oh, and a good saw. If you do a nice job you can conceal a vent set up anyplace you need to. I have a grow room in my garage which is just curtains of this insulated foil with fans inside. I have the whole cool garage at my disposal, but if I didnt I could cut a hole in the ceiling, put in a register and pipe it out the office ventilation.

 

[kbean]

well the only option would be to ventilate out of the window, which would mean cutting a hole in a 2 layer glass. I dont have a slightest idea how to do that without breaking the glass, cant get a proffessional in there either becoz the room is flowering right now.

Anyway on the subject, would scrog be as effective or even more effective as sog ?

 

[Irie Islander]

Lol, you do not need to cut a hole in your window. People don't cut holes for window A/Cs. Just open it up slightly screw it secure and board it up w/ a hole in the board. You can also buy a window A/C and get someone to install it for you. 90% of the houses here use window A/Cs. Which makes me want to grow in 90% of the houses

 

[kbean]

well its not so easily done when the window opens upside down or from right to left, and the window is about a foot inside the wall. I would have to open it about halfway to do any descent boarding, and that would look pretty kinky from outside since the next house is about 40meters away (apartment).

I have tought of that ac idea, but as i said that would mean dismantleing the whole growroom which would be a bitch. =/

Could anyone give me some input on the fluorescent scrog ?

 

[floroscroger]

Hello kbean,
I registered to this site just to help you out. Let me say that I have been growing for about 2 years now.My grow is probably alot different than what you are looking for since I run a perpetual harvest.You can grow some very nice buds with floresent tubes.I would plan on using more lights for that amount of space. I dont know where your gettig your t8's but where I get mine they are 32 watts not 36. You want to run at least 50 watts per square foot. My cabnet is only 2'x4' and I run 576 watts at 56k lumens.I usually average about 26 grams a plant and I try to harvest one plant a week. If you have any specific questions, ask away.

 

[Guest]

I would agree scrog is a much better option....

 

[Irie Islander]

I was using the ac as an example, you will only need 4-8 inches, depending...
Can you easily block off the outside, so people cannot get in? Just say a couple of friends got jacked. And if you are high up, or its a small window (that only a lubed up dwarf could fit through) then... yeah ok

I love building, framing and jerry-rigging. So your situation (with the window) sounds like half an afternoon of fun.


P.S. Just read you vent through the window.... just build a tiny venting box and seal it up with Great Stuff (a expanding, sealing type foam), or similar. Sands away easy by hand for cleanup

 

[kbean]

damn me and my typos. The tubes are 36w around here, duno why. But they still are 4ft long So i would average 72w psqf. Thanks for help guys.

 

[floroscroger]

that should be plenty of light. I have found it to be much easier to screen the plants individually, that way you can move the plants easily if needed and it makes it simple for wattering and cabnet maintainance. I use metal coat hangers and copper wire to make my screens. then attatch them to the pot with wire.

 

[kbean]

You said you average 26g per plant. how many plants are you growing?
I plan on growing 4 plants, and getting atleast 50g from one. Scrog should yield more than the usual "hippie method" so what the hell @ 26g?
btw floroscroger i sent you a pm.

 

[floroscroger]

My screens are ruffly 10"x10" my cab is 51"x21" (about 8 square feet). I keep 10 plants in my cabnet. I have 2 different strains that I'm growing now. One is ready in 10 weeks, the other is ready in 8 weeks.I try to make it come out to where I harvest one plant each week. When one plant comes out another one goes in.So I guess if I were to flower the whole cabnet at once I would yeild about 260 grams. If you fill your cabnet with 4 plants then 50 grams a plant may be a low estimate.

 

[floroscroger]

Kbean,
Here's the way I grow em.