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Study links marijuana smoking to gum disease

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crownedsparrow

By Will Dunham
Tue Feb 5, 4:27 PM ET



Smoking marijuana, much like smoking tobacco, may increase a person's risk for gum disease that can lead to tooth loss, researchers said on Tuesday.

A study of 903 New Zealanders found that people who smoked marijuana frequently had triple the risk for severe gum disease and a 60 percent higher risk for a milder form of it compared to people who did not smoke the drug, also called cannabis.

People who smoked marijuana less frequently had a smaller increased risk for gum disease, the researchers said.

Gum or periodontal disease is an infection of the tissues surrounding and supporting the teeth. In advanced stages, the gums and bone that support the teeth can become seriously damaged and the teeth can become loose, fall out or have to be removed.

"While it has been known for a few years that tobacco smoking is bad for the periodontal (gum) tissues, no one has investigated whether any other type of smoking is also a risk factor," W. Murray Thomson, a professor of dental public health at the University of Otago in New Zealand, said by e-mail.

"We suspected we would indeed find that cannabis smoking was a risk factor, but what surprised us was the strength of the relationship," added Thomson, who led the study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

His team tracked a group of people in Dunedin, New Zealand, since their births in 1972 and 1973. They were age 32 when the researchers identified the "strong association" between marijuana use and gum disease.

The researchers defined heavy marijuana users as those who reported smoking it an average of 41 or more times annually between ages 18 and 32 -- almost once a week.

Many heavy marijuana users also were tobacco smokers, but the researchers said their statistical analysis showed that marijuana increased the risk for gum disease separate and apart from tobacco use.

"Cannabis smoking appears to have an effect which is not far behind that of tobacco," Thomson said.

Thomson said the study adds to the understanding of health consequences from smoking marijuana. "We already knew that it had respiratory and mental health effects on some people, but this is a totally new angle on its effects," Thomson added.

Researchers think tobacco smoking can lead to periodontal disease by interfering with immune function, inflammatory response and blood flow in the gums. Thomson said he thinks marijuana smoking may act in a similar way.

James Beck of the University of North Carolina School of Dentistry, who also worked on the study, said he hopes further research is conducted to confirm a link between marijuana and gum disease.

A U.S. group supporting legal sales and regulation of marijuana faulted the study. "I think they've raised an interesting question, but I don't think they're close to giving a meaningful answer," Marijuana Policy Project spokesman Bruce Mirken said.

Mirken called the study's definition of heavy marijuana use arbitrary and said additional factors like alcohol or other drug use may help account for the findings.

(Editing by Maggie Fox and Cynthia Osterman)
 

HeadyPete

Take Five...
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WTF does New Zealand have against dope for christ sakes? This is like the 4th piece of crap propaganda from NZ.....

Do they have a new conservative Bush lovin government or something?
 

HeadyPete

Take Five...
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"Cannabis smoking appears to have an effect which is not far behind that of tobacco," Thomson said.

Researchers think tobacco smoking can lead to periodontal disease by interfering with immune function, inflammatory response and blood flow in the gums. Thomson said he thinks marijuana smoking may act in a similar way.

"We suspected we would indeed find that cannabis smoking was a risk factor, but what surprised us was the strength of the relationship," added Thomson, who led the study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

James Beck of the University of North Carolina School of Dentistry, who also worked on the study, said he hopes further research is conducted to confirm a link between marijuana and gum disease.

Many heavy marijuana users also were tobacco smokers, but the researchers said their statistical analysis showed that marijuana increased the risk for gum disease separate and apart from tobacco use. Bullshit!

puh-lease.......there is no link between the two, contrary to the headline, a headline which doesn't match the findings of the article....

I've smoked pot heavy (2-3 joints a day) for many years and my dentist says my oral health is excellent - no tobacco here.
 
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Echoes

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Lots of studies coming from New Zealand lately. Anyone have any idea why all of a sudden pot is so important to them? I'm not really saying studies are bad but this one sounds even stranger than the last. I've smoked pot for years in the moderate to heavy consumption range and my gums are fine. Just brush your teeth and floss at least twice a day. Am I missing something here?
 

trouble

Well-known member
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crownedsparrow said:
Smoking marijuana, much like smoking tobacco, may increase a person's risk for gum disease.

I never chew gum and smoke at the same time, therefore, I not concerned about my gum catching some dreadful disease. And if by chance my gum came down with some disease, I would just throw it away and get a new piece.

If I would have known this when I was younger I wouldnt have put my gum at risk by blowing bubbles filled with smoke.



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Haps

stone fool
Veteran
Another NZ turd, less than a thousand people, and NO proof or actual facts - BULLSHIT.
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Who keeps posting this crapola? WHat is your agenda?
 

Sammet

Med grower
ICMag Donor
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Here's a link to the Journal article rather than that sexed up news piece.

Cannabis Smoking and Periodontal Disease Among Young Adults

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/299/5/525


The deeper inhalation and prolonged contact and absorption time associated with cannabis smoking suggests that it may also be a likely candidate in the etiology of periodontal disease. Investigating such an association is challenging because of the confounding potential of concurrent tobacco smoking...

...Although the usual method of smoking cannabis in New Zealand is not to mix it with tobacco,12 we cannot be absolutely certain that this was the case for all participants.


So the article talks about tobacco causing gum disease yet goes on to say that some of their participents smoke both tobacco and cannabis at the same time, almost 50% including current smokers and ex-smokers, and that non-tobacco cannabis smokers may also mix their cannabis with tobacco. That's pretty interesting.

However, it's not new to associate smoking with gum disease. If they did a study of people who smoked any substance over a prolonged period of time I'm sure they would find the same results.
 
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crownedsparrow

Haps said:
Who keeps posting this crapola? WHat is your agenda?

What is my agenda? Honestly I don't have one except I like to be informed about what is going on in the media, as well as in medical studies about the plant I habitually smoke. There has not been enough scientific research about the drug in my opinion, would let the IC community decide if it is propoganda. If I was wrong in my assumption that others in this community care about what the media is telling the general public about our beloved plant, than by all means I will never post a similar post again.
 
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Lune TNS

Don't many European smokers smoke a herb/tobacco mix? The results of the study make a lot of sense if many of the participants also smoke tobacco...
 

vavwl

Member
If you floss everyday and keep your mouth clean you won't have a problem with gum disease. It also is important to have a proper diet. Vitamin C is very good at treating gum disease, and also for preventing it.

Cannabis smoke definitely won't make your gums better, but I know for a fact it doesn't cause gum disease. Don't these idiots realize that we know by experience. But I guess this type of propaganda isn't targeted towards people who already smoke and know the truth.
 
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dontstepongrass

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heavy smokers being those who smoke 41 times or more annually... lol wow, what if you smoke 3-10 times a day? what hope is there for me!?!?!
 
HeadyPete said:
WTF does New Zealand have against dope for christ sakes? This is like the 4th piece of crap propaganda from NZ.....

Do they have a new conservative Bush lovin government or something?
Just because you don't agree w/ it doesn't make it propaganda, ya know. Why don't you show us how it's propaganda..
 

Sammet

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I don't disagree with their findings, but wonder if it's actually the cannabis that causes the gum disease or the smoke.

Would they have the same findings if those people had been smoking basil? Would they have found the same thing if their subjects had been vapourising?
 

Haps

stone fool
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Crowned Sparrow, post what you want, I do not wish to inhibit your freedom. But some of us have seen enough of this type of bullshit, agenda based propaganda to know the smell of it. You should know better than to believe a NZ study on anything, unless it is mirrored by studies in other countries. This is biased supposition, no facts, get it? BULLSHIT.
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I am not saying that smoking does not hurt your gums, I am saying this study proves nothing at all.
 
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socioecologist

The angry responses to any research that paints cannabis in a negative or neutral light are getting old. If you want to critique a piece of research on methodological grounds (which is the primary shortcoming of every cannabis research article I have read, namely poor controls and inappropriately small sample sizes), awesome--do it, and do it well. I empathize with the rage directed at what amounts to government sponsored propaganda (Kiwis in this case), but don't take it out on the messenger. We have to stay current on the propaganda if we are to effectively dispel the myths.

PS: What's the sample size of one mad IC member stating "I've smoked everyday for years and my teeth are fine"? I'm stoked your gums and teeth are healthy, but the statement suffers from the same methodological problem as the Kiwi's study.
 

Storm Crow

Active member
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Actually, this is a negative study I can believe!

Actually, this is a negative study I can believe!

When you get cottonmouth, your mouth becomes an ideal breeding ground for bacteria! When your mouth is dry, it doesn't "flush" the bacteria away down your throat. Then the bacteria throw an orgy! Bacteria = tooth decay and gum disease.

However, the "cure" is easy! Just have a non-sugary beverage to drink when you toke! No cottonmouth = no bacteria orgy = no problem! Those dudes must have been real idiots! Not smart enough to take a drink when they are thirsty!
- Granny :joint: (as I sip some stevia sweetened tea)
 

Mr.Rogers

Member
that's funny how people will automatically claim that the study is bullshit and there are no facts when they have absolutely nothing to base it on. these people had scientific research and im sure the people that conducted the research have pretty good credentials. let's see all of your credentials... oh ya you have none, and are in no way qualified to say whether this is right or wrong.

im not saying the study is definitely right, but for someone to instantly call it bullshit with nothing to base their opinion on is pretty stupid. where is your research? and just cuz it didn't happen to you that isn't valid research, you can't make generalizations about everyone based on your own experience. you are only 1 person


btw, i got a newsflash for you people, smoking is not good for you. doesn't matter if you're smoking tobacco, or weed, or anything else, inhaling smoke is bad. so don't get so upset over the simple suggestion that smokin pot could have some negative side-effects. of course tobacco is a hell of a lot worse than weed but nobody said it isn't.
 
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