Stuck record player motor

[D.D.]

If there is anyone on icmag who can help me fix my record player motor, then im certain this is the right place.

The motor looks similar to this one



except where the brass plate with the hole is, it has a stainless steel plate with no hole.

Im sure the coil pack is good, but the motor just doesn't want to turn (at all when power is on) and it gets hot. Can get it to turn by hand when power is off, but its difficult.

I think it just needs a good oiling, but it fall short of the motor in the picture where the small brass plate will detach by loosening the clamp screws on the sides.
The motor i have has a steel plate that is machined into place.

I think it needs oiled well, or well oiled, but im having trouble getting the oil where i think it needs to go.

Or maybe its frozen up .. so to speak.
Its an AC motor, i doubt that reversing the current would have any effect as far as unfreezing it.

Anyone know any tricks to freeing the motor, getting the oil where it needs to go, without doing a complete dis-assembly?

Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but it the only place i expect to find anyone old enough to have any experience with antique toys.

 

[D.D.]

Got it fixed for the most part now, still a little quirky.
At least i can listen to some of these again...

I even found my stash of needles (phono needles that is) lol

If i can only find that little box that hooks to the mp3 player, wire it up to the speaker leads, and hear my radio like it is supposed to sound now...

"Request lines are now open..." Words from the past where i live.
Every station within range is a automated loop with a recording of the weather updated each day at noon.

 

[SeaMaiden]

Very cool! I wish I had even some of my old vinyl. Lost it in my divorce. I had so much reggae!

How'd you get the motor working? And do you think you can fine tune it?

How old is that turntable, anyway?

 

[D.D.]

Its probably a mid 1970s model, SeaMaiden, a General Electric 4 speed solid state portable.
Emerson Electronics manufactured a knockoff 2 speed model in the 1980s.
The quality between the two is distinct as soon as you open the dust cover.

Turns out soaking up to just below the coil in a good oil bath, and turning the shaft by hand periodically, repeating the process a number of times. The oil finally made it where it was needed.

For tweaking on the motor itself, i t would be a matter of reworking the coil or changing out a wheel resting against the turntable itself.. but its playing at the right speeds, or at-least the music sounds in time when i compare 4-way street to my memories of live performances. Then some newish 1980s vinyl to memories of listening to the radio back then.

The amp has a few issues, probably a leaky capacitor in the power rectification stage, so i unplugged the stylus wires and connected them to one of those little transmitters made to listen to a portable mp3 player through the radio until i get around to the amplifier.
Soldiering , or more like holding the soldiering iron is painful at the moment, don't really matter what kind of prescription, either my hands still hurt, or it puts me to sleep. I'll have some good indica soon (i hope) and will be able to pull and repair the amp without all of the pain.
Sorry about the long delay on the response, i have fallen asleep a number of times trying to write this. Pain pills do me that way if its something that will actually stop the pain.

I too lost a rather large collection of vinyl, mine was lost to fire several years ago.
Some i managed to salvage with a good cleaning, others that werent burned had some severe heat damage. I managed to save very few of the heat damaged ones using the old trick of placing between 2 peaces of plate glass and letting the sun heat them up just enough for the warps to flatten enough they were playable again.

I was never satisfied with the cassette tapes, CDs, and many will disagree, but CDs are lacking alot of the sound or the sound quality. DVD is near close, and looks like old timers are satisfied with blue ray, but digital is lacking something that only vinyl can reproduce.

I'll post up some pictures when these meds ware off and i quit falling asleep on the keyboard.

 

[SeaMaiden]

I hope your pain becomes more manageable with a quickness.