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Stressing her out!!
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I wouldn't suggest it,its pretty much universally accepted the best way to "farm trichromes" is to keep the plant as healthy as possible throughout all stages of growth.I've heard it all and tried a few like deliberatly dehydrating your plants the last fews days before harvest,I found none of it to be effective and some to be detrimental.In the 70s the farmers in Columbia used to stress their plants before harvesting,this only resulted in a gold finishing color and probably hurt potency IMO.You can experiment for yourself,but I think you'll find a healthy plant up until harvest produces the best results.Remember,trichrome production as a result of stress is just one of many theories none that have been proven in any way.
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with forced stressing in flower you will see hermies, not more trichs or resin
i myself have read something of a old azian technique....it involves cutting the stem..i can't recall the name or site that i found it on....i think it woz erowid but i can't find it there anymore...it seems they changed there site...Nway i've read that when the plant is fully matured and flushed the plant is set aside 2 dry out for a few days....meanwhile the stem is cut 15 a 20 cm above the soil...the cut measseauring 5 a 10 cm....then you need 2 add a liitle wooden stick between the cut so the stem will be split...it wil stop the plant from growing but it gave the explenation that the plant thinks its drying out thus it will produce more THC 2 try and save herself....
Nway i can't find the article...i already did this technique ...but unfortunally i did't have a radioshack at that time....i'm flushing some plants as we speak...and in a few days i gonne try this technique again and try and see if there is any diffrence
i do have a radioshack scope now ...
this is no BS..i just can't find that article
Nway i can't find the article...i already did this technique ...but unfortunally i did't have a radioshack at that time....i'm flushing some plants as we speak...and in a few days i gonne try this technique again and try and see if there is any diffrence
i do have a radioshack scope now ...this is no BS..i just can't find that article
mid-east-stone
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i never do it on perpouse
i never do it on perpouse
it just happens-
and the result is not as shine as you whould like it to be..
one hermed on me--- poor little girl...
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green day!
i never do it on perpouse
it just happens-
and the result is not as shine as you whould like it to be..
one hermed on me--- poor little girl...
: )
green day!
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cobain420
My experience...
Less stress = better buds.
I would avoid stress at all costs, try to keep that plant as happy as possible, and in return you'll be as happy as possible
Less stress = better buds.
I would avoid stress at all costs, try to keep that plant as happy as possible, and in return you'll be as happy as possible
Brian1975
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The question is not if I should do it or why some don't do it. It is asking who DOES it and how. All this about keeping the plant happy is dumb. I am not looking for stress through poor plant care. Watered properly and fed properly, proper pot size for plant, optimal distance from light, decent temps....etc. All those things are still to be in place. That is all VERY necessary so that the plant will be able to react positively to the upcoming stresses. We can really argue this till we are all blue in the face. I was a firm believer in the no stress ideology as well. Keep those plants healthy and don't do anything to upset them.....Brian1975 said:
. Well, I can't ignore what is right in front of my face people. As it seems all I am finding in here are those who oppose my theory, I really am not going to try and convince anyone. We all have to find a method that works for us. Without experimentation with one's plants, how are we to ever know what it's full potential is? I bet half the people that would answer this post against what I am suggesting, would only do so because it is what they HEARD or READ. That's fine and accurate for those who don't want to possibly fall on their face. Outside the box there are no restrictions or rules. You think these plants have survived and thrived all these years without adversity there to strengthen them and make them better. "I stressed my plant. I did not do it on purpose. I have an identical clone next to it for additional comparisons. It is what it is and I see what I see". It would be similar to God sitting down next to me and asking me how I am and me telling him not to talk to me cause he doesn't exist. close enough for what I am trying to get at. Calgon, take me away Keep it lit!! 
am i talking 2 air or what?....i just can't eknowledge the truth about this technique.....
@breezy..
dunno breezy am i?...i'm not english so the name of the techniquer could be diffrent...
Brian1975
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Talking to air?? Are you?? That is okay if you can't acknowledge the truth about this technique. I am guessing that most see no validity in my statements. Many people also coddle the plants and treat them like a fragile 18th century vase. Now, I am not looking to become the posterchild for "plant abuse" or "improper growing methods". Just wanted to share my specific experience and see who else has had a SIMILAR experience. I will definitely let everyone know what the end results are with the buds from the two clones after harvest.Core said:
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What experience Brian,did I miss something?If so I apologise,but I thought you were asking about other people's experiences.I have said I've stressed my plants through dehydration,light manipulation,scarring,and like I said found it detrimental in all cases.I've been doing this for years and have found a healthy plant produces the finest erb.How you keep it healthy is open to debate but this really shouldnt be.I know a lot of people with a lot of experience have told you that you are heading in the wrong direction,what you do with it is up to you bro
Lol i hope i'm not....but that woz the Q woz't it ...Stressing plants for more THC...i deffinatly would tale a look at this technique if your planning 2 join the 'Abusive' club...Nways i wil have proof in the pudding in a few now that i have a radioshack scope...guess you have 2 try it yourself my friend....i'm gonne, so dont mind me :wink:
Nways i think your on the wrong path bro...stressing 2 much Will cause'm 2 hermie on you...i hope you dont get a crop of Hermaphrodite seeds while your at it...
Good luck buddy!
Nways i think your on the wrong path bro...stressing 2 much Will cause'm 2 hermie on you...i hope you dont get a crop of Hermaphrodite seeds while your at it...
Good luck buddy!
Brian1975
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I'm sorry. I actually posted on another site about this topic as well. I wrote down the experience I have had with my Mango on there, not on here. I re-read and realize everyone thinks I am crazysoilman said:
. I accidentally stressed (sort of, definitely not with the intent to harm her) one of my two current flowerers. The other flowerer is a clone from the same mother as the stressed clone(I will refer to her as such to avoid confusion). A week before I put her into flower, I snapped her in half. I didn't do it with the intention of flowering in a week, it just worked out that way. I wanted to test another training method. I used the FIM technique with the mother of these two. I liked the results but was curious to see what kind of structure I could get out of this method. It was healed in a week but I should have let her heal just a tad bit longer maybe. Anyways, on top of that, I made a poorly timed transplant on the already stressed one, and actually on the other one as well. The one is forming like the mother and reminds me of her very much. The stressed one is not. She encountered a hungry moment as a result of the transplant but was never dehydrated. Anyways, I have noticed(by eye) only that she was sugaring up nicely but hadn't put her under the scope cause she is nowhere near being ready. I finally scoped her because of the difference in what I could see with my eye, when compare to the mother and the sister. I was a little amazed. I have looked at them over and over and over again. I compared buds from the mom, plus I remember looking at her all the time, and she does not have the trichome to area ratio that the stressed one has. It really is night and day because of how often I looked at the mother. It jumped up and slapped me across the face it was so blatant. So, with that said, I was curious of a way to harness the extra sugar producing results of this consistently. Moreover, what exactly was it out of the stresses it encountered, that made it react like that. My plant has not become unhealthy and has not been underwatered. Healthy by all other terms and definitions but it has encountered some obstacles(while healthy). The other factor that is different for the stressed one, as opposed to her sister and mother, is that she was not fully revegged when she went into flowering. While her and her sister were both taken from the mother at the same time, the other had almost two weeks longer to revegg after rooting than the other did. The stressed one still had some tiny white hairs showing. When I set her into flower the hairs simply exploded almost immediately, whereas her sister formed the buds at the rate the mother did. Something caused this, and basically I want to pinpoint what it was, and fuck with it. Basically that is it.
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Brian, you are noticing a big difference mostly due to the fact that the 'frostier' plant is essentialy 'ahead' of it's sister..
technicaly the plant was still in partial flower, so it triggered much faster than it's sister.. That means it started to make resin earlier, jus like is started to flower earlier..
What you are seeing has little to do with stress IMHO..
Also, u can take 2 clones, both healthy, unstressed, and give one slightly more N and it will look completely different than the other one.. likewise with PK strength.. now, depending on the root enviroments, they could both be fed the same amounts, but due to PH/temperature/etc they will uptake slightly differing amounts of nutrients.. for this reason sidebyside comparisons/experiments are often flawed..
It's much easier to perform experiments using beds, with all plants in the same medium/rootzone.. or using hydro with a res, where all the plants share the same medium/PH.. unless you have thoroughly dialed in your medium/nutrients/strain doing comparos in seperate pots can be very misleading.. also, depending on where the plants sit under the light they can very greatly.. that's why it's much better to use as many clones as possible, and average your results out in soil..
the more perfectly controlled the lighting/rootzone is the less plants are needed to get accurate results..
And please start out with 2 clones taken off the same plant at the same time in veg.. reveg can make 2 of the same clones look completely dif by the time they've finished revegging, as there's so many weird/twisted new leaves, and indentical clones may take a few days difference to fully reveg..
I think you probly wouldn't even have noticed a thing if you had taken a lil more scientific aproach to yer 'studies'...
I'm not saying resin production cannot be manipulated with stress, jus that i doubt it has anything to do with what you are seeing..
And FWIW, the only reliable and easy ways I know of to increase resin production is to suppliment yer grow room with UV lighting to simulate high mt conditions that are known to increase resin.. The other best way to increase resin production is to drop your temperatures and humidity in flower.. too low of temps will hurt yeild, but it certainly will help to a point.
these are both proven techs, but UV is dangerous to humans/skin, so you need to be sure u do not expose yerself to it.. And lowering temps and humidity can be very difficult..
just MHO
EDIT: I intentionaly stress all of my seed plants out to look for herms and issues to make sure I'm breeding with good genetic material.. I use small pots, light leaks, drop them on the pot from a couple feet in the air, etc.. but it's not for resin production..
technicaly the plant was still in partial flower, so it triggered much faster than it's sister.. That means it started to make resin earlier, jus like is started to flower earlier..
What you are seeing has little to do with stress IMHO..
Also, u can take 2 clones, both healthy, unstressed, and give one slightly more N and it will look completely different than the other one.. likewise with PK strength.. now, depending on the root enviroments, they could both be fed the same amounts, but due to PH/temperature/etc they will uptake slightly differing amounts of nutrients.. for this reason sidebyside comparisons/experiments are often flawed..
It's much easier to perform experiments using beds, with all plants in the same medium/rootzone.. or using hydro with a res, where all the plants share the same medium/PH.. unless you have thoroughly dialed in your medium/nutrients/strain doing comparos in seperate pots can be very misleading.. also, depending on where the plants sit under the light they can very greatly.. that's why it's much better to use as many clones as possible, and average your results out in soil..
the more perfectly controlled the lighting/rootzone is the less plants are needed to get accurate results..
And please start out with 2 clones taken off the same plant at the same time in veg.. reveg can make 2 of the same clones look completely dif by the time they've finished revegging, as there's so many weird/twisted new leaves, and indentical clones may take a few days difference to fully reveg..
I think you probly wouldn't even have noticed a thing if you had taken a lil more scientific aproach to yer 'studies'...
I'm not saying resin production cannot be manipulated with stress, jus that i doubt it has anything to do with what you are seeing..
And FWIW, the only reliable and easy ways I know of to increase resin production is to suppliment yer grow room with UV lighting to simulate high mt conditions that are known to increase resin.. The other best way to increase resin production is to drop your temperatures and humidity in flower.. too low of temps will hurt yeild, but it certainly will help to a point.
these are both proven techs, but UV is dangerous to humans/skin, so you need to be sure u do not expose yerself to it.. And lowering temps and humidity can be very difficult..
just MHO
EDIT: I intentionaly stress all of my seed plants out to look for herms and issues to make sure I'm breeding with good genetic material.. I use small pots, light leaks, drop them on the pot from a couple feet in the air, etc.. but it's not for resin production..
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