Strange tip-off leads to huge outdoor bust.

[EasyBakeIndica]

Agents Raid Pot Growth in Local Mountains​

Federal agents bust a major marijuana growing operation in our local mountains

The marijuana was found last weekend in an area east of Highway 243 near the community of Poppet Flats.

News Channel 3 joined the DEA as they confiscated the plants worth millions.

Helicopters dropped off giant bushels of marijuana plants while National Guardsmen load it onto trucks.

Deep in the mountains were seven different marijuana growing operations located in three canyons.

"In this case, we had a water company that was noting a change in the fecal count in their water quality which indicated there was some camping along their system. Overflying the acres is when their gardens were spotted," said John Miller with the U.S. Forest Service.

The Desert Water Agency gets their water from these mountains. They say no contaminated water ever reached their customers.

Mexican drug cartels from the state of Michoacan grow these marijuana plants that each have a street value of $3,000 to $4,000.

"The big concern is, this is an important riperian area for wildlife and sensitive plants," said Miller. "Now you're introducing toxic chemicals, you're introducing invasive species obviously because these people are bringing in all kinds of garbage."

The recent aerial recon flights may have scared away the growers. They haven't been found yet. Their mark will be left on these mountains. The spots where they grow the plants can take nearly 10 years to recover.

It's a victory for Federal agents against this crop of marijuana; but they know that with this drug's high profit margin, they'll be doing this all over again next growing season.

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=8730045&nav=menu191_11_3_3​

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

i dont like cops but i cant say i feel bad for them.
these kinds of operations are too much.
no plant count though. probably over-hyped, but still frustraiting people ruin the land.

 

[SomeGuy]

Busted because of turds? That is weird.

 

[FrankRizzo]

I agree. While I would love to see mj get legalized, things like this sure don't help the situation one bit. Destroying huge plots of land is horrible for the environment and it give the jerk offs that run this country one more reason to f*ck with us. I wonder how much this type of thing would stop if mj was legalized? No need to have huge plots in the woods when everyone can have a few plants in their backyards.

 

[CaptainTrips]

This kind of thing would not happen if it were legal. There sure would be no mexican cartels growing on us soil if it was legal either.

 

[G33k Speak]

More stupid fucking illegals????

should've used that helo to.. well, nevermind.

 

[anikas88]

^ there is no proof that illegals did this, its a big possibility, but i was talking to a guy from norml and he was was saying that government is likes to blame all these growops on illegals now even small patches they find because they know its stirs up hysteria now, with everyone hating illegals and all, anyways this shit wouldnt happen if you didnt buy weed on the street because this is probably were it come from,

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I only have to say that clearing out huge plots of land in a forest or deep mountains will affect the wildlife and the natural state of things. For any plant this is unacceptable behavior. We can grow with nature, not against it.

thats my point exactly, MJ likes having alot of microbes around it.
not to mention how shallow-thoughted that stip-and clear method is, there clearing the natural plants so the cops can see what there doing??? yea, must be illigal idiots. most locals are smarter then that.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

^ there is no proof that illegals did this, its a big possibility, but i was talking to a guy from norml and he was was saying that government is likes to blame all these growops on illegals now even small patches they find because they know its stirs up hysteria now, with everyone hating illegals and all, anyways this shit wouldnt happen if you didnt buy weed on the street because this is probably were it come from,

they say it because its true, these assholes ruin my area routinely. and its so obviouse when the idiots start laying white-PVC across a nature preserve....

most locals do gurilla, or indoors, some patio-plants.

u need alot of man-power and materials for a big outdoor venture, somthing the illigals proved they can and will do.
with cali having such a large 'undocumented' population and with the econ. tanking this will be happening more.

still laff that a turd spiked the machine and started the whole thing.

 

[FrankRizzo]

This kind of thing would not happen if it were legal. There sure would be no mexican cartels growing on us soil if it was legal either.

That's more or less what I was trying to get at. I just tend to babble nonsense these days....

 

[Verite]

Ive seen plenty of outdoor grows. I have yet to see one that 'destroyed' a large plot of land that took 10 years to recover. I dont buy any of that bullshit.

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

Growers need to be aware of their surroundings. I doubt these growers were pooping in the water. I suspect that run-off from guano/compost made it into the reservoir. LEO probably expected to find a small colony of hippies like the Rainbow Gathering...

Water reservoirs are highly guarded, especially since 2001. I'd advice growers to steer clear of any 'national resources'.

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

Verite, its sort of like clearing land to grow a field of corn you are going to rob that plot of any natural plant life that existed previously. I wouldn't say this would take ten years to grow back but why not plant in between bushes or trees so it isnt obvious. One large cleared square in any field, anywhere is going to destroy that land temporarily. If this wasn't true than farmers would not rotate crops to revitalize the ground, because when you clear flora you are removing a lot of top soil, the most vital part to growing.

If our federal government truly respected our forests, than they wouldn't 'lease' it out to lumber companies. What do you think clear cutting all those trees and replanting non-native saplings in uniform rows does to the environment?

This is what land looks like after a lease is done. The land has been replanted and is 'satisfactory' according to the Forest Service. A lumber company did this, not a marijuana grow:

As long as the thugs in charge get to exploit our lumber, I'm not going to attack guerrilla growers.​

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

If our federal government truly respected our forests, than they wouldn't 'lease' it out to lumber companies. What do you think clear cutting all those trees and replanting non-native saplings in uniform rows does to the environment?

This is what land looks like after a lease is done. The land has been replanted and is 'satisfactory' according to the Forest Service. A lumber company did this, not a marijuana grow:

As long as the thugs in charge get to exploit our lumber, I'm not going to attack guerrilla growers.​

WOW MAN

 

[Verite]

Verite, its sort of like clearing land to grow a field of corn you are going to rob that plot of any natural plant life that existed previously. I wouldn't say this would take ten years to grow back but why not plant in between bushes or trees so it isnt obvious. One large cleared square in any field, anywhere is going to destroy that land temporarily. If this wasn't true than farmers would not rotate crops to revitalize the ground, because when you clear flora you are removing a lot of top soil, the most vital part to growing.

Unless I missed something in the story I cant see where they did any clearing of anything. Why would you want to when it provides natural cover for the plants?

 

[G33k Speak]

^ there is no proof that illegals did this, its a big possibility, but i was talking to a guy from norml and he was was saying that government is likes to blame all these growops on illegals now even small patches they find because they know its stirs up hysteria now, with everyone hating illegals and all, anyways this shit wouldnt happen if you didnt buy weed on the street because this is probably were it come from,

Most people from this country are smart enough to NOT shit in the drinking water... 3rd world mexicans not so much.
Ever been through the interior of mexico and seen their 'sanitation'????

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

Most people from this country are smart enough to NOT shit in the drinking water... 3rd world mexicans not so much.
Ever been through the interior of mexico and seen their 'sanitation'????

Ignoring your blatant racism, you're still wrong. Do you think they line-up along the rivers to use the bathroom? (FYI - The United States dumps more fecal matter into the ocean on a daily basis than Mexico.)

Sewage leeches through the soil and gets into the ground water. Every undeveloped country has this problem, not just Mexico. It happens where there isn't a modern sewer system.

Back to my earlier point, the water treatment officials have to account for the wildlife that lives in/around the reservoir. This means that a certain amount of feces is expected, since fish and wildlife need to shit. I'm willing to bet it was the runoff from their compost/guano. After all, the majority of the pollution in our rivers comes from agricultural runoff.

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

19,951 plants were counted during the seizure. You go ahead and think nothing was removed to plant that much marijuana. Also, I dont give a shit what the government does to the land. It doesn't mean we have to do the same whether with nonnative saplings or weed, or any other plant.

Stop implying things. I've seen 20,000 plant grows in the hills of Kentucky and they never cut down trees. Usually, the area around a grow site thrives from all the nutrients that leach down.

I'd be happy to agree with you if you were right, but you haven't found evidence showing where Marijuana growers have hurt the environment. All you offer is hearsay. You're gobbling up LEO propaganda and trying to regurgitate it on this forum without anything to support your opinion. I wasn't trying to justify ruining the environment, I was trying to point out that the Federal government will lie to justify it's actions.

 

[anikas88]

GEEK SPEAK - I have been to mexico many times, fuck i live in cali,southern orange county about an hour away, yeah theyre is places where it looks like shit and theyres crime and pollution, yeah 3rd world, but theyre also places with very rich and educated people with beautiful,clean colonial towns. Anywhere there is poverty your gonna lack the basic public utilities, go to any "3rd world country or even second or first world countries" and you will find areas where there is poor people living in shitty conditions,fuck i know places in cali that remind me of a 3rd world country, my point was that i have talked to many people involved in our MJ scene here and yeah alot illegals are running operations like this, but so are many other groups, but the government is blaming every single grow on illegals to stir hysteria, they automatically state or imply that its illegals running every single grow op now, and who funds this, the cartels they will tell you, no YOU ARE, or any body you know who buys herb on the street, that probably includes your dealer or middleman, i have even known people who have sold really dank brick weed from bc or mexico to medical coops who just label it "outdoor mendicno orange krush" and sell at low price for a coop like 200 an oz, (but that is not the point) anyways, Im saying be skeptical of what our government and LEO say, dont let hysteria cloud your view, and by illegals your implying mexicans, well theyre is illegals from all over the world here, ive meet alot illegals from eastern europe but no one dares call them illegal, no theyre "refugees" escaping poverty, but im not here to discuss immigration policy and drugs, to me they should be separate issues who unfortunaly due to our misguided drug war, the government is trying to lump them together, i just find it hard to believe that someone who smokes,grows, and enjoys cannabis/marijuana would blindly believe what the media and government tells them about an issue.

 

[G33k Speak]

Maybe I'm jaded, but around here, just about anything that's fuked up, substandard or enviromentally damaging is connected to mexicans- legal or otherwise....

who the fuck else throws USED toilet paper on the floor of the restroom, because they're not used to indoor plumbing????

We've spent 100's of MILLION of taxpayer dollar to fix their fucked up 'colonias' near the border- they build glorified squatter camps and live in shacks without running water and sewers. Thankls for the tuberculosis and hepatis outbreak y'all.


Google the word 'colonias' and see if you'd want that crap near you.