STRAINS????

[Sam_Skunkman]

I thought I would mention that IC use of STRAIN and STRAINS for Cannabis Varieties or Cultivars is incorrect.
MY STRAINS, IC STRAIN Guide, STRAIN DIRECTORY, ADD STRAIN, SEARCH STRAIN, should be changed to Varieties or Cultivars, seed Varieties or clone Cultivar.

Strains are used for Viruses and Bacteria not Cannabis...

Also Indica and Sativa are old and incorrectly used. All drug varieties are Indicas, either WLD or NLD, while all Sativas are hemp either WLH or NLH. IC should use the correct terms to help teach the folks.
Here in Europe many people call resin pollen, it is not. And in the USA many people call resin Kief, but Kief is a Moroccan word to describe the dry manicured flowers of Cannabis chopped up with black tobacco, KIEF was in Morocco for centuries before hashish was made there, but Americans are ignorant about Cannabis history and use the wrong words, and they get taken as correct.
It would be great to see STRAINS not being used for Cannabis. Let the other sites use what they want, but we should be showing the correct way for the people that care, like me, and want to use correct terms. I do not use STRAIN, we should not use the wrong terms.
-SamS

 

[corky1968]

It's such a strain using all these fancy words.

Maybe the term cultivar instead of strain is more appropriate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivar

Oops, just noticed you already mentioned cultivar.

 

[cooterbrown420]

you hit on my pet peeve lol i hate this whole indica and sativa confusion thanks for clearing it up for everyone Sam.

 

[Dog Star]

Agree..

 

[aridbud]

How would you classify ruderalis hybrid?

 

[MJPassion]

How would you classify ruderalis hybrid?

Or any other cross that doesn't fit the definition of "variety" because they throw 100 different phenotypes?

 

[Skip]

Sam, I see you already have a thread going on this. One wasn't enough?

Actually, "genetics" is probably more generically appropriate.

However the Cambridge dictionary lists this definition for "strain":
noun, an ​animal or ​plant that is only ​slightly different from other ​animals or ​plants of the same ​type.

"strain" can also refer to an aussie, or something from Australia.

Merriam Webster has a couple of definitions (listed #1 & #2)

1. a group of presumed common ancestry with clear-cut physiological but usually not morphological distinctions <a high-yielding strain of winter wheat>; broadly : a specified infraspecific group (as a stock, line, or ecotype)
2. 2a : inherited or inherent character, quality, or disposition <a strain of madness in the family>

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kief is a Moroccan word to describe the dry manicured flowers of Cannabis chopped up with black tobacco, KIEF was in Morocco for centuries before hashish was made there, but Americans are ignorant about Cannabis history and use the wrong words, and they get taken as correct. [/FONT]

I'm an American and I take umbrage (or another hit...) at that...
Esp. having watched them chop up the cannabis and tobacco in the Rif...(don't smoke tobacco so didn't try).
The Kif is in the Rif and the Rif is in the Kif...

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Sam, I see you already have a thread going on this. One wasn't enough?

Actually, "genetics" is probably more generically appropriate.

However the Cambridge dictionary lists this definition for "strain":
noun, an ​animal or ​plant that is only ​slightly different from other ​animals or ​plants of the same ​type.

"strain" can also refer to an aussie, or something from Australia.

Merriam Webster has a couple of definitions (listed #1 & #2)

1. a group of presumed common ancestry with clear-cut physiological but usually not morphological distinctions <a high-yielding strain of winter wheat>; broadly : a specified infraspecific group (as a stock, line, or ecotype)
2. 2a : inherited or inherent character, quality, or disposition <a strain of madness in the family>

I'm an American and I take umbrage (or another hit...) at that...
Esp. having watched them chop up the cannabis and tobacco in the Rif...(don't smoke tobacco so didn't try).
The Kif is in the Rif and the Rif is in the Kif...

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I am an American also but calling resin kief, as done in America is the same as Europeans calling resin pollen, it is not correct.
I can lead you to water, but I can't make you drink...
I prefer the correct terms but I will live if everyone on earth calls resin or trichomes pollen or kief, but I will not use them to describe resin when I know a better way.
Ask a botanist if strains is correct for Cannabis....
-SamS

 

[Hashash]

strain seems another word for variety though wikipedia uses variety
in matter of plants at least.

if you research a bit more the term strain is used rather historically
or the offspring of one ancestor, i am no botanist but sam may be right

but hey why would one generalize that Europeans call resin pollen,
though i heard that myself a few times i would not generalize it like that
makes europeans seem like dump idiots

 

[corky1968]

Ask a botanist if strains is correct for Cannabis....
-SamS

I think you better clean up this strain guide thing 1st. I provided the link below.

I see "IC Strain Guide >> Breeders >> Sam the Skunkman" in the same sentence.

Until that gets cleaned up Sam your tied with the strain word.

Aka. If it looks like a strain and grows like a strain. It's probably a strain.

https://www.icmag.com/modules/ICStrainguide/index.php?eop=breeder&id=121

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

I like to call them strands, what I like to do is take this strand times that strand and make a new strand.

 

[Skip]

Americans call it MARIJUANA. Europeans call it Cannabis.

Who cares?

 

[Skip]

"Strains are used for Viruses and Bacteria not Cannabis..."

I've proved this wrong now with dictionary definitions, so let it go.

 

[Babbabud]

Wow so now we have three threads on the same subject.

 

[Skip]

Really? All by the same person? Seems to me someone needs to reread the forum guidelines.

Guess I'll just have to start shutting them down.

I'll start with this one.

 

[Skip]

I found the BEST definition, most applicable to our use here in the Oxford English Dictionary...

Definition #1- noun: A breed, stock, or variety of an animal or plant developed by breeding.

So I guess we don't do any breeding of plants around here according to Sam...