Strain suggestions

[Infected-Mushie]

Hey guys. Soon I'm going to be starting to build my cab and then eventually I'll get onto my first grow. My first grow is most likely just going to be random bag seed before I move onto something a little more specific. So at the moment, I'm just sort of researching what sort of strains I should look into.

As I'll be using a relatively small cab, I'm thinking an autoflowering strain would be suited best - perhaps in combination with ScrOG training. I like a heavy couchlock so I'd be looking for an indica dominant.

Note: I live in New Zealand so I'm going to have to risk getting some seeds sent over.

I've been looking at strains like Onyx (probably more a more balanced hybrid), Diesel Ryder, Easy Ryder and Auto Northern Lights.

Basically, I'm looking for something than can pack a punch. I'e heard the Diesel strains tend to produce quite a bit a smell. Has this been an issue with any of you guys when growing in a small cab using a simple scrubber?

Also, feminized vs regular.

Seems you can get 3 female seeds for the price of 10 reg seeds. Now I know it's a bit of a gamble buying regular but surely you'd get a few girls and when the first boy appears you can save his pollen to get virtually unlimited seeds later on.

Do you reckon it's worth getting female seeds over regular?

 

[ibjamming]

Just start your grow with bagseed...find some STRONG shit that you really like...and grow it. IF you're successful with that...go ahead and order some "real" seeds while the others are flowering. This will give you plenty of time to make a good decision.

Buy the seeds from Seedbay or the boutique...they have really good prices, they mail stealthy, and they provide us with this forum...throw them your first order. Don't sweat the seeds arriving...nobody will know what's in the package and the chance that it get's opened randomly is up to your country. I wouldn't worry about it. Use a "safe" address if possible...a friend...relative.

Most people aren't impressed with autoflower potency...how about a short indica? When you grow your bagseed, you'll get an idea of how big a regular plant can get...

People like diesel, but it can smell...a lot.

fem seeds are for people who want to try a new strain every time. No breeding. Though you can make male flowers from stressing them.

I'd go ahead with my bagseed grow and use that time to research your next strain. You've got several months to decide...don't rush your decision.

Good luck!

 

[LUDACRIS]

Hey guys. Soon I'm going to be starting to build my cab and then eventually I'll get onto my first grow. My first grow is most likely just going to be random bag seed before I move onto something a little more specific. So at the moment, I'm just sort of researching what sort of strains I should look into.

As I'll be using a relatively small cab, I'm thinking an autoflowering strain would be suited best - perhaps in combination with ScrOG training. I like a heavy couchlock so I'd be looking for an indica dominant.

Note: I live in New Zealand so I'm going to have to risk getting some seeds sent over.

I've been looking at strains like Onyx (probably more a more balanced hybrid), Diesel Ryder, Easy Ryder and Auto Northern Lights.

Basically, I'm looking for something than can pack a punch. I'e heard the Diesel strains tend to produce quite a bit a smell. Has this been an issue with any of you guys when growing in a small cab using a simple scrubber?

Also, feminized vs regular.

Seems you can get 3 female seeds for the price of 10 reg seeds. Now I know it's a bit of a gamble buying regular but surely you'd get a few girls and when the first boy appears you can save his pollen to get virtually unlimited seeds later on.

Do you reckon it's worth getting female seeds over regular?

I always go for regular seeds and always get a good number of fems with them.
As for strain "MASTER KUSH" will hit you hard.

 

[Justin_Credible]

DGS sweetest c99...bullet proof strain. I have beaten the shit out of these plants with ppm overload and heat stress and the are still ticking...like a timex...takes a licking, keeps on ticking.

 

[jm420]

In a small cab ,I would go with femmed seeds .Why waste the little space you have growing males ?Paridise Ice cream is a great Indica easy to grow great smoke and the price is right.Like justin said as well you cant go wrong with Dutch grown

 

[Justin_Credible]

yeah sure, but correct me if i am wrong, a new grower might not have the perfect conditions first time around...and femm'd seeds might not be the best idea???
Just my 2 cents...

 

[CraftyApe]

The auto that I grow most frequently is auto poison dwarf. If you let it go a couple weeks longer than the packet would suggest then it will hammer your ass to the couch. It is derived from Norther Lights apparently. Oh and it has a strange side effect that may sound attractive but in reality is really annoying. It is like smoking viagra.
No...really. Search my other posts if you want. I have discussed this fairly frequently. I have talked to other people who while then did not manage to dial in the strain the way I have, they also got the boner weed effect.
Like I said it sounds cooler than it is, if I smoke a whole joint not only am I zonked big time but when I wake up in the morning my crank is sore as hell from being up literally all night. Seriously it kind of sucks. Want to know how much it sucks? I am in a poly relationship with three woman and trust me, all night wood when you are too blotto to hump is just flat out retarded.

The other one that would flat out knock you on your ass that I grow for pain patients is the auto Great White Shark. Not a massive yielder by any means but it will flatten you. Very frosty and very strong. I had this one recommended to me by one of the be all end all gurus of autos as a good choice for the pain patients I assist. They have really liked the results. Good meds.

Of the two I would lean toward the Poison Dwarf as it has more elements to it. The breeders seem to have a bad rap but I have had good luck with the strain now that I have a handle on it and have had a few genuine hallucinogenic outer space trips on the stuff as well as lots of other fun effects. The GWS is fine but it just flattens you and not a lot else. That is why I would suggest the PD. For me it is not my favorite smoke but if getting flattened and nailed to the couch is your goal then you will be good to go. Just dont blame me if your yang hurts then next morning. Heh.

cheers

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

I want a poly relationship

 

[straintester]

Just start your grow with bagseed...find some STRONG shit that you really like...and grow it. IF you're successful with that...go ahead and order some "real" seeds while the others are flowering. This will give you plenty of time to make a good decision.

Buy the seeds from Seedbay or the boutique...they have really good prices, they mail stealthy, and they provide us with this forum...throw them your first order. Don't sweat the seeds arriving...nobody will know what's in the package and the chance that it get's opened randomly is up to your country. I wouldn't worry about it. Use a "safe" address if possible...a friend...relative.

Most people aren't impressed with autoflower potency...how about a short indica? When you grow your bagseed, you'll get an idea of how big a regular plant can get...

People like diesel, but it can smell...a lot.

fem seeds are for people who want to try a new strain every time. No breeding. Though you can make male flowers from stressing them.

I'd go ahead with my bagseed grow and use that time to research your next strain. You've got several months to decide...don't rush your decision.

Good luck!

Normally I would agree to use plain old bag seed for beginner growers to learn about males and females etc
BUT this is going to be a cabinet grow and with bagseed, one really doesn't even know if it is indica dominant or sativa dominant. If buddy gets sativa dominant strains, not only has he got to shift through the plants to sort out males from females BUT the plants will probably be far too large.
Better off picking something more suitable whether that be in fem or not
With fem seeds you would save yourself a lot of time and space BUT you would also miss out on the valuable lessons of sorting through the males vs females. If you want to start breeding, then you have to learn about this stuff.
Its a serious consideration.
Just my 2 cents

 

[CraftyApe]

I want a poly relationship

Its no different than other relationships really beyond the number of people. Just my humble etc... but make sure in advance that they all like weed.
One of the girls thinks that it is a filthy disgusting habit and wishes that I would stop but at the same time does more of the actual work involved than I do even back when I was trying to grow out unknown bagseed in too small of a space and ending up with trees (see how I did that? made it kinda relevant and pointing out the benefit of known genes and expectations). If I were not growing 95% or more for people in need then she would probably give me a tonne of shit over it. As it stands she just bitches about it here and there but strangely she will also roll for me and guess what she rolls. The boner weed.

 

[Herbal extasy]

First, would forgot those Autos, except if your growing space is not going to be lightproof. 12/12 is the magic, that every selfrespecting ganjagrower should experience. Besides, you can get decent dank with cheap price. Autos always cost more and potency may not be there.

Second. Check femaleseeds offerings from boo . Pack of mixed 10 females under 40€. Would not bother with males at this point, because you do not have to! When I started growing 2002, there were basicly no feminized seeds around. Things have changed lots over years.

 

[skotty]

autos mate

ill recommened you a few strains to try

onyx
mi5
sour 60s
russian rocket fuel
himalyal blue diesel
lowryder x ak47

i could go on but they are some of the more potent strains and you will get more than an ounce even upto 5oz depending on growing method for your 8-10 week growing time

or you could go with super autos

the reason i say autos is because they are plug and play you dont have to change the light cycle for them to bud and you can have a continous harvest with them by popping more seeds as you go

12/12 is also good way to grow but you wanna lean towards 100% sativa or a sat/indy plants but more sat dominiant 70 sat 30 indica for the best results stay away from 100% indicas these will reduce yield as they do need a 3-4 week veg period

have a look in the different forums to see what people are doing and what they are producing check out my links in my sig for a info and research and decide which way you wanna grow

hope this helps

peace

 

[durka_durka420]

in my opinion screw auto flowering plants id just do 12/12 from seed if you want plants that small but as above poster said 12/12 from seed is best for a mainly sativa strain as they stretch so much in flower but i got a 12/12 from seed plant thats a indica and i actually have some nice budding going on....for strain suggestions this purple maroc from female seeds is awesome,purples naturally, has alot of good resin production,not many phenos,hard to hermie,smells awesome a nice fruity smell, says its a outdoor strain but i had no problems indoor with this strain except the one hermie that was my fault...but its a great strain yield is decent also...and its fairly cheap its a good one to try but what i would do is get the best bag seeds possible hell ask some friends "got any seeds from weed that was really really good" and if they do get the seeds and dont say anything about growing say another friend wants em for his collection...most bag seed turns out waaaaaaaaaaay better then the stuff you bought hell ive seen bag seed on here that looked like some top notch connoisseur smoke..

 

[HempAlchemist]

grats on the new cab grow! I think your on the right track by starting with your bag seeds. As a 1st time grower there are a lot of things that might go wrong that will hinder your yield.
Do yourself a favor and make sure you have your cab built and tested before you even start to pop a seed. the biggest mistake a new grower does is try to push things faster then needed, this includes buying seeds.
so if you start with bag seeds, you will need to learn about:
1. males/females
2. vegging and flowering
3. cloning
4. identifying peak ripeness
once you have a handle on these things, you would want to think about buying seeds.
Female seeds are nice. they allow the grower a change to buy 2-3 different strains and know that you dont need to waste time, light, nutes, and money on males. regular seeds are nice if you are buying bulk. like you pointed out, regular seeds are cheaper then female ones. and in your 1st post you had priced 3 females = 10 regular. well at that prices i would buy the 10 regular because for the same money you will get more females, and also a better selection of females. now not all seed companies upsell there female seeds that much so you will need to do the math.
personally i dont like autoflower. but aside from the talk about them not being that strong, they are going to be smaller. so that means you need to grow more at a time to get the same yields. they also dont clone well. i have yet to read a thread that explains the keeping of a momma auto. so that means your gunna need more seeds. also autos should have a 18/6 light cycle or greater so you will be using more electricity and because you will have more plants you will use more nutes. so even if the auto seeds are on par with normal ones, they will still cost more and have more risk.
if i was you, i would make 2 cabs. one for vegging and one for flowering. start off the bag seeds and veg them out really well. take some clones, label them, and then flower the clones once rooted. kill your male clones and the fathers they came from. take clones of your females again. wait till the flowering plants are finished and then see which one you want to keep. order some seeds at this point, and kill the mom and clones that you dont want to keep. toss your remaining clones into flower and wait for the seeds to arrive. repeat with the new seeds.
sry for the long post i hope this all helps
HA

 

[skotty]

grats on the new cab grow! I think your on the right track by starting with your bag seeds. As a 1st time grower there are a lot of things that might go wrong that will hinder your yield.
Do yourself a favor and make sure you have your cab built and tested before you even start to pop a seed. the biggest mistake a new grower does is try to push things faster then needed, this includes buying seeds.
so if you start with bag seeds, you will need to learn about:
1. males/females
2. vegging and flowering
3. cloning
4. identifying peak ripeness
once you have a handle on these things, you would want to think about buying seeds.
Female seeds are nice. they allow the grower a change to buy 2-3 different strains and know that you dont need to waste time, light, nutes, and money on males. regular seeds are nice if you are buying bulk. like you pointed out, regular seeds are cheaper then female ones. and in your 1st post you had priced 3 females = 10 regular. well at that prices i would buy the 10 regular because for the same money you will get more females, and also a better selection of females. now not all seed companies upsell there female seeds that much so you will need to do the math.
personally i dont like autoflower. but aside from the talk about them not being that strong, they are going to be smaller. so that means you need to grow more at a time to get the same yields. they also dont clone well. i have yet to read a thread that explains the keeping of a momma auto. so that means your gunna need more seeds. also autos should have a 18/6 light cycle or greater so you will be using more electricity and because you will have more plants you will use more nutes. so even if the auto seeds are on par with normal ones, they will still cost more and have more risk.
if i was you, i would make 2 cabs. one for vegging and one for flowering. start off the bag seeds and veg them out really well. take some clones, label them, and then flower the clones once rooted. kill your male clones and the fathers they came from. take clones of your females again. wait till the flowering plants are finished and then see which one you want to keep. order some seeds at this point, and kill the mom and clones that you dont want to keep. toss your remaining clones into flower and wait for the seeds to arrive. repeat with the new seeds.
sry for the long post i hope this all helps
HA

just a few contradictions in this post mate about autos vs regualr your saying having a light on constant 18/6 is gonna cost more in electricity but then you advise him to create a flower and veg room??????

so in effect it will cost him more money running 2 rooms

you cant get momma autos but then agian whats the point ???

if the plants all grow on the same light cycle you dont need to have a momma plant you can just keep popping seeds and keep on growing all in the same grow room

as for yields vs regualr strains well here is a bomb shell you have to veg regualr seeds before putting them in flower in order to get big yields but whats the point in having big yields from 1 plant when you quite clearly build up a tolerance level from contiously smokeing the same strain so in theory it would be better to grow different strains and have different flavours on constant supply with a perpetual harvest from growing autos

you could yield more from growing autos and and get more grows finished in the same time it takes to grow regualr strains and i would ask you to check out some of the yields being pulled off autos in short grow times were talking 4-5 oz a plant in 8-12 week grow period thats seed to weed, big jumps are being made in the autos potency its now up there and the yield is also

hope this helps

peace

 

[urapocalypse]

Note: I live in New Zealand so I'm going to have to risk getting some seeds sent over. Has anyone got any experience with dope-seeds.com?

From my knowledge its not illegal to have the seeds its only illegal to grow them.

 

[HempAlchemist]

I tried to make my last post short w/o going into a lot of detail, but i seem to have confused ppl. let me explain what i said a lil

1st about the 2 rooms:
it is very possible and easy to run 2 rooms for a reasonable price to veg reg seeds vs autos.
lets just say you are using a 400w hps to flower autos @ 18/6. thats 7.2Kw/day used
now lets look at the same 400w hps flowering normal seeds at 12/12. thats only 4.8Kw/day used. Now lets add a lil veg area powered by a 100w cfl @ 18/6 thats an additional 1.8 Kw/day used. thats only 6.6 Kw/day used total a saving of 8%. now if i factor in the cost of electricity you will see that 8% adds up really quick. its all about getting the most out of your space. now if your growing outside thats a completely different. esp if you have a short growing season. but indoors, i just dont see the math working out. not arguing about the potency or that you can get same yields in a slightly shorter time. what im saying is that in the long term, indoors, its not cost effective, and with a lil focus you can get same from regular seeds w/ less cost indoors.

2nd, you will be staring from bagseeds.
you will need to get use to a veg and a flower photoperiod. this is gunna take a lil while anyways. why waste the time and knowledge. and who knows you might find a cultivar (strain) that you might like in your bagseeds. plus most of the online seeds are regular and not auto. granted there are a lot of new ones recently and potency has gone up A LOT for autos, but the fact is that most of the exotic/rare/potent pot is still sold as a regular seed. dont put yourself in a niche yet, find what u like and then grow that. no matter what type of pot it is

 

[!!!]

Fuck bagseed. Order an excellent strain and buy or build yourself an ebb/flow table (or any other hydro setup) and do things right first time around. If you fuck up you might lose 2-3 weeks of time but you gain experience quick and your efforts are rewarded.

You'll pay more attention to your grow and really do your research if you think you'll lose $100 seeds, and it'll be fun. Growing bagseed is boring and your plants will probably hermie 5 weeks into flower and discourage you from ever growing again.

edit: When I say bagseed I also mean autoflowering strains. You don't learn shit growing AF strains.