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[jyme]

hey stitch,i hope you had a great vacation.well over the last few days ive had some more troubles.lol. this poor plant has had a rough time,living in mircal gro soil.my ppm sky rocketed to 3420ppm.what caused it to go from 680ppm to 3420ppm in three days with out me adding ferts to it.i will never be for sure.ive not added any since i transplanted in to a 3gallon pot. i will post some pics of the nutrient burns.

oh yea, ive got somthing else for you a seedling on 18/6 that is showing sex!!! lol. check out the rest of the pics on my page.

HAPPY NEWYEARS

 

[MynameStitch]

Hey jyme, ya it was a blast, but when we got there my boyfriend got sick and then a week later I ended up getting sick right before we went home and 15 hour drive is not fun when you are sick!
My boyfriend had to pretty much drive the whole way there.... then with the parrot in the car and so forth it was a zoo lol.

My bird wanted to ride on our shoulders the whole time rather than staying in the kennel with perches we made her, we made her an outside perch so she can sit in the middle. THank god she don't poop on people, she flys to her perch and goes to the bathroom and flys back on the shoulder lol.



Your plants are getting burned it looks like, seedlings should not be grown in MG unless seed starter mixture.

Has it been cold where you live? Like is the soil cold?
Do you have the timed released soil mixture?
The one plant above the first seedling picture is showing signs of too much nitrogen.

Your plants are getting locked up, because normally when you get nute burn your plants do not show tan, tan color is when the plants sucked up something it had stored away due to it not having enough from it's nutes.

If your using the soil that has the 3 months food released, this is bad I will tell you why, it's too strong straight out of the bag, the continuous feeding they have in there reacts to cold temps and releases ferts more quickly.

You most defiantly need to flush your plants out with a lot of water....

1 gallon pot to 1 gallon of water.
Too much nutes can cause twisting, pH can too, but I do not see a pH problem just the mixture being too strong.

When you get nute burn, depending on which nutrient is over abundance you will get different results looking nute burn.

If you can get the seedlings out with no problem switch it to mg seed starter; I have used it and grown so many strains and not once had I ever had a problem, by the 4th week it still had the single bladed leaves that pop out after it starts to grow.

When you put them into the soil, how long ago was it? How long have they been in the mixture and how old were they when you first feed them and how often did you feed them?

The MG mixture is so strong, we had some on the grass and it burned the shit out of grass

most definatly too strong for seedlings and smaller plants.
It has to be watered down with a different mixture.

More waterings mean more nutes are being released and since you have moisture control and it holds in water it's going to cause more ferts to be released and it's too strong.

 

[jyme]

hey stitch,sorry yall got sick.ive been sick too.a parrot wow thats cool.im glad yall had a blast though!!!
it is cool at times my soil surface is around 64f the room is rarly below 72f. the mg potting mix is time released and this is what i belive happend.the ppm went from 680ppm to 3420ppm in three days ive not added nutes to the mix since i repotted the plant. i have since flushed and brought the ppm down to 990ppm and yesterday i watered with plain water and checked my ppm its down to 348ppm.
yea its nitrogen burns this soil is hard to work with it shows nitrogen defs but you can feed with a solution of only 770ppm and a week later your flushing from burns.
the soil is a three week time release.
the taning,is what hapened after i flushed the curled leafs tried to flaten back out i think i may be wrong.it may be like you said due to flushing.
the seedlings wasin jiffy pelets then put in to the mg mix still in the jiffy pelets.ive not added any thing yet to them. just one went all funky fyde!!! its starting to grow not its been three weeks and its siblings is between 6" and 8" tall
yea the mix is to strong thats for sure.

 

[CranAppleGemz]

HI stitch, i was wondering if u could help me here..
got some SLH from clone and ever since i put them under the 600watter to flower theyve seem to lighten up..theyre light green and some of the leaves are curling down and lookin really skinny
they were under a 400w mh during veg
i dont know if its the light or nutes, or anything for that matter.
using coco (coco-can)
HEEEEEEELP!!! lol

How long has this problem been going on? 2 weeks
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents) no
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) HAnd Watered daily, or every other dat
What STRAIN are you growing? super lemon haze
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) clone
What is the age of your plants? 4 weeks
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..) about 3 weeks
How tall are the plants? 10-14 inches
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower
What Technique are you using? none
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) coco
What is the Water temperature? 69-72
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? white
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless) GH micro bloom...heads formula..plus 1gram per gallon of Esalt...stop using the esalt a few days ago
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* 6/9ml per gallon micro/bloom
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless) i was feeding daily...started feeding every other day 1 week ago
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless)
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients? no
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect) micro then bloom then esalt
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? 1.2
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 5.7 - 5.9...usually 5.8
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? yes
When was your last watering?today
What is your water temps? 71
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients? flushed 1 week ago
What size bulb are you using?600w eye hortilux super hps
What is the distance to the canopy?13-18 inches
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? 20%
What is the canopy temperature?77-79
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) 77-79 day 68-70 night
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)400 cfm exhaust
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? forced air furnace for intake..runs intermittenly during the day...exhaust turns on every half hour for 15 minutes
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? ocsillating fan
Is your water HARD or SOFT? dnt know..its tap
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? tap
Are you using water from a water softener? no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched no
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? no
Are plant's infected with pest's? no

 

[CranAppleGemz]

 

[CranAppleGemz]

 

[fishwater]

Great to hear fish! Thanks for the compliments You can use pH down from a pet shop, but you need to make sure it says it's safe for plants on the back and make sure it does not list Sodium of any kind in it and you will be alright. Do you let your earthjuice sit out for 24 hours? You are supposed to mix it and let it sit and the pH will rise.

Your water is really hard... get a water test kit that has a ppm strip so you can find out what ppms your tap water is, too overly hard water will cause problems with the way plants absorb NPK, but it has to be really bad... You have updated pictures?

The plants havent gotten any better all this time... The buds have grown a little bit, trichs are abundundent and starting to cloud up, but no green ever returned... 7 weeks into flower now, I have given them nothing but water and molasses for the last two weeks... getting some nice purple leaves now... I figure no more than another week now..
When I grew this strain before, it was only 6 weeks flowering, I guess after you try to kill it, it takes more time.. haha

Thanks again Stitch... Next time will be much better, I have learned a lot here and with experience too...

 

[MynameStitch]

You got some pictures of the fish? Normally around flowering time the buds is what gets it's most energy put into, growth wise slows down a lot.... Are your temps cold? Cool temps will slow down bud growth and plant growth...... 70F and under.....

cran apple, it looks like you got your plants on the over watering part.... water is sitting in the bottom to much or the water at the bottom is not being used quick enough before more water is being added.

the cupping of the newer growths tells this....... How much and how often are you watering?

 

[CranAppleGemz]

i was watering everyday..about 1 1/2 cups..i poured until i saw a little run-off

 

[rastalifestyle]

ya u should try the lift method on when to water always seems to work best.

 

[MynameStitch]

Cran, rasta is correct, you should always lift the pot to tell when the plants are in need of water and when they are not.

If you ever carried jugs of water, when you lift the pot you can tell the difference if there is water in there or just soil and roots!

Check before and after waterings so you can get the hang of when they need water.
Notice how the top part of the plant is curling before the rest..... this is because too much water is sitting down at the bottom and as your plants grow roots down, there may not be enough at the bottom yet, I am sure there is now, but not enough to keep up with your daily waterings.

The upper and middle parts dry out the quickest, so unless you have a plant that is nicely rooted,they don't need water everyday.... especially run off.....

The only time a plant should need watering everyday is when they are root bound..... there are other reasons, but this info pertains to you. Another thing, your plants are stretched to reach the light, move it closer to the light if you can, when you flower her you either have to do it quickly, or you will most likely have to add support when they bud out from the weight. If you got a fan going use that now to help the strength up the stems.......

 

[CranAppleGemz]

thanx a lot stitch...

and rasta..i really appreciate it

 

[rastalifestyle]

no worries were all in this together. I used to use other methods but it was the only "sure" one

 

[pufferfish]

i got 2 clones 2 weeks ago put em in moonshine mix only RO water when dry thay look bad...any help plz

 

[lowshovel1]

Your going to need drain holes in the bottom of your cups. the soil will take forever to dry out otherwise.

 

[GreenhouseBobby]

Commented in wrong thread

 

[rastalifestyle]

puffer i would try to transplant those into maybe a gatorade bottle or figi water bottles. def make sure there are a good amount of drainholes and if you want put a piece of newspaper in the bottom folded so no medium runs out just water. make sure not to overwater. maybe only water 2-3 times a week. GL let us know on the progress

 

[VERMI]

IS EPSOM SALT GOOD FOR TREATING MG DEFICIENCY

 

[pufferfish]

yes i got holes when i water em it gos in and dry out in about in 36 hrs.but i think its my temps 87 is it to hot...how do i cool my cab

 

[crashcarts]

Can you diagnose what is going on with my plants..PLease

Can you diagnose what is going on with my plants..PLease

Hi everyone, growing Purple Kush, I was giving it 30-10-10 on what I'm thinking may have been some ill advice. I'm leary to make a correction until a professional takes a look. Please help if you can
Pictures are below and thanks in advance
CRASH