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Spiral CFL's
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that is NOT a 100w bulb.
that is the "equivelant" of 100 incandescent watts, to the HUMAN eye... and they splash that all over the package to trick you.
it's burning whatever wattage is marked on the base.
most likely 26 watts or so. doesnt look to be a 45 watter but who knows, read the bulb itself.
thats #1.
#2, its too far away.
if you want max efficiency, especially with no reflectors as shown, get them 1-2" away from the plants, TOPS! even closer if you can.
use lots of fans so that if the plant does touch the lamp, it wont burn..
hey, havin to constantly check to make sure they havent grown into the lamps is a good thing , the best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow
other than that the plant looks great, altho, if it werent for those linear flourescent tubes lighting the way, that lamp on top would be useless for plant that size.
go buy a 150w hps and discard all of that there, or keep the flourescent pans like they are and just hanga security light (150hps) over the top, you could then flower her out and get some massive buddage.
here, look at this one under a 150 HPS security light with just schultz, and no side lighting...
yours will look just as good if you get the right light, or like 4 more of those there 26w CFL LOL! wastes way too much electricity and way too much heat, hardware to buy/assemble, and expese$$$$. your so much better off with the hps, JUST DO IT!
that is NOT a 100w bulb.
that is the "equivelant" of 100 incandescent watts, to the HUMAN eye... and they splash that all over the package to trick you.
it's burning whatever wattage is marked on the base.
most likely 26 watts or so. doesnt look to be a 45 watter but who knows, read the bulb itself.
thats #1.
#2, its too far away.
if you want max efficiency, especially with no reflectors as shown, get them 1-2" away from the plants, TOPS! even closer if you can.
use lots of fans so that if the plant does touch the lamp, it wont burn..
hey, havin to constantly check to make sure they havent grown into the lamps is a good thing
, the best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow other than that the plant looks great, altho, if it werent for those linear flourescent tubes lighting the way, that lamp on top would be useless for plant that size.
go buy a 150w hps and discard all of that there, or keep the flourescent pans like they are and just hanga security light (150hps) over the top, you could then flower her out and get some massive buddage.
here, look at this one under a 150 HPS security light with just schultz, and no side lighting...
yours will look just as good if you get the right light, or like 4 more of those there 26w CFL LOL! wastes way too much electricity and way too much heat, hardware to buy/assemble, and expese$$$$. your so much better off with the hps, JUST DO IT!
dociron
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or........
If ya look in my gallery,, all my stuff is under flo lights.
The C99 x Panama Red grew under 45 watt CFL bulbs.
I have no scale so I can not give output ratios
but I think the plants did good,
Use what ya got and get her done,,,
then if you want to invest more,, do so.
I have both flos and hps.....
I'll do a comparison soon,
BTW...... "CPR" kicks my sorry old butt
under CFLs yet......
Take Care, Stay Safe........... "iron"
If ya look in my gallery,, all my stuff is under flo lights.
The C99 x Panama Red grew under 45 watt CFL bulbs.
I have no scale so I can not give output ratios
but I think the plants did good,
Use what ya got and get her done,,,
then if you want to invest more,, do so.
I have both flos and hps.....
I'll do a comparison soon,
BTW...... "CPR" kicks my sorry old butt
under CFLs yet......
Take Care, Stay Safe........... "iron"
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a 26/27watt compact flourescent as your main light source?
Doc iron ONE of your 45w bulbs is likely more powerful than his 1 overhead lmap there, AND YOU USED MULTIPLE BULBS (not to mention the fact that some sativas PREFER a less intense light in flowering, may or may not have anything to do with your results but that plants way too big for that bulb, it aint no 100watt envirolite dont be fooled, he thinks it is, but it is not, i assure you. 100w CFL are mogul base, thats a 26 watt lamp)
i guess my response left out that ONE 26 w att bulb is insufficient overhead light for a plant that size. they offer no penetration. but theyre great for vegging in ghetto setups.
he said he plans to buy more, i say dont waste your time. do it right.
Doc iron ONE of your 45w bulbs is likely more powerful than his 1 overhead lmap there, AND YOU USED MULTIPLE BULBS (not to mention the fact that some sativas PREFER a less intense light in flowering, may or may not have anything to do with your results but that plants way too big for that bulb, it aint no 100watt envirolite dont be fooled, he thinks it is, but it is not, i assure you. 100w CFL are mogul base, thats a 26 watt lamp)
captainJack said:
i guess my response left out that ONE 26 w att bulb is insufficient overhead light for a plant that size. they offer no penetration. but theyre great for vegging in ghetto setups.
he said he plans to buy more, i say dont waste your time. do it right.
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dociron
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CaptainJack said:a 26/27watt compact flourescent as your main light source?
Doc iron ONE of your 45w bulbs is likely more powerful than his 1 overhead lmap there, AND YOU USED MULTIPLE BULBS (not to mention the fact that some sativas PREFER a less intense light in flowering, may or may not have anything to do with your results but that plants way too big for that bulb, it aint no 100watt envirolite dont be fooled, he thinks it is, but it is not, i assure you. 100w CFL are mogul base, thats a 26 watt lamp)
i guess my response left out that ONE 26 w att bulb is insufficient overhead light for a plant that size. they offer no penetration. but theyre great for vegging in ghetto setups.
he said he plans to buy more, i say dont waste your time. do it right.
Yes,, one of my 45s is more than that,, and that one is not a "100 watt bulb".
I also note that this is a newer grower, and there is a "shoplight" standing on that 1 plant,
My guess is that this grower is gonna be stoked a bit with this grow,
and will "step up" as it were, to a "HID" system. We all grow better with encouragement first, like nutes for a vegatative plant,, this one is a seedling, let's be gentle first :wink:
You take care my friend,, "iron"
Ok, Ok OK... 
So my setup is ghetto right now your'e absolutelty right. And as you probably saw first off, I am a 1st time/newbie grower from seed. I plan to add higher wattage cfl's (like the 45w ones the Doc had suggested).
Believe you me, I want to add HPS or other High tech lighing, but I will wait till my second grow and learn/read/ask many more questions before that happens. This test grow is only lasting untill the 20th of march. Thanks guys for the suggestions and tips!!
.............But can someone please anwer my question regarding the safety of these lights close to my plant?? what kind of hazzards should I be careful of when using multiple Spiral CFL's like the one I have hanging??? What I want to do is take away the shoplights completely and use all spiral cfl's
So my setup is ghetto right now your'e absolutelty right. And as you probably saw first off, I am a 1st time/newbie grower from seed. I plan to add higher wattage cfl's (like the 45w ones the Doc had suggested).
Believe you me, I want to add HPS or other High tech lighing, but I will wait till my second grow and learn/read/ask many more questions before that happens. This test grow is only lasting untill the 20th of march. Thanks guys for the suggestions and tips!!
.............But can someone please anwer my question regarding the safety of these lights close to my plant?? what kind of hazzards should I be careful of when using multiple Spiral CFL's like the one I have hanging??? What I want to do is take away the shoplights completely and use all spiral cfl's
Hey Downer, these guys have already given you excellent info, so I'm just gonna act as motivator here.
I started off growing by throwing some seeds in a dixie cup under a CFL desk lamp I had. As I could afford it, I wired up a total of 6 42 watt CFLs. As time went on, I added two 50w HPS. The plant came out great, and I learned a ton, so I fully support the 'learning grow' mentality you've laid out.
As far as your questions, the CFLs are actually less of a fire hazard than the HPS. Get those fluros right up on the plant, like an inch or two away, you won't have any problems. CFLs are much cooler than regular incandescent lamps, and exponentially cooler than HID systems.
Enjoy your learning grow, and bump up to HPS when you feel ready.
I started off growing by throwing some seeds in a dixie cup under a CFL desk lamp I had. As I could afford it, I wired up a total of 6 42 watt CFLs. As time went on, I added two 50w HPS. The plant came out great, and I learned a ton, so I fully support the 'learning grow' mentality you've laid out.
As far as your questions, the CFLs are actually less of a fire hazard than the HPS. Get those fluros right up on the plant, like an inch or two away, you won't have any problems. CFLs are much cooler than regular incandescent lamps, and exponentially cooler than HID systems.
Enjoy your learning grow, and bump up to HPS when you feel ready.
aesoprock00
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igotpron said:
i did a 306W CFL semi-scrog over at Overgrow.com. 2 of them actually. came out really well, but i had a multitude of problems. the CFLs were basically a fixed height, and when stretch came around, the plants stretched so much that they grow through the CFLs and were burnt by them. i lost a lot of my best colas because of the stretch and burn. i still ended up with about 80grams of dried herb both times, and about 3-4oz of trim and tiny bottom buds that went into oil for brownies both times.
i'll try and dig up the pics and add them here
mmm420socal
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aesoprock00 said:
80 grams off of 306W of CFL? Thats like 3.825 grams / watt...
Did you mean EIGHT grams?
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Hi Downer,
Fluoros are a great way to grow herb if you hava space or heat issues. They are also superb for vegging. If you are going to you them dont skimp. You need alot of wattage to get a harvest worth your time.
These lights are 150watts each. They run about $70 each + 20 for the socket. The plants that are in the pic are as fat as 1 could expect. Really nice and solid. I dont know what the yield will be, but it is going to be higher than I anticipated.
Seed
PS-These bulbs are 6500K...a good well balanced light spectrum. They are about 14" with the ballast just so you know your getting the right one.
Fluoros are a great way to grow herb if you hava space or heat issues. They are also superb for vegging. If you are going to you them dont skimp. You need alot of wattage to get a harvest worth your time.
These lights are 150watts each. They run about $70 each + 20 for the socket. The plants that are in the pic are as fat as 1 could expect. Really nice and solid. I dont know what the yield will be, but it is going to be higher than I anticipated.
Seed
PS-These bulbs are 6500K...a good well balanced light spectrum. They are about 14" with the ballast just so you know your getting the right one.
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Guest
mmm420socal said:
are you serious dude? and i thought my maths skills were bad.
Tokabowl
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mmm420socal said:
Just so you know 80g from 306W is 0.26 g/W, 3.825 is W/g
,thats not too bad considering the main colas were burnt...
CFLs can do a good job, i have just finished my grow under Envirolites, i used 2 of the 200W that have a 2700k warm colour horizontally under reflectors, and also a 150W hps in the middle:
The 200W enviros dont give out as much heat as the 150W hps, but the ballasts still heat up a fair bit. I remenber reading that early models had a fire risk??? but i havent had any problems of the sort myself or heard of any recently... I doubt that those spiral cfls are any more of a risk than any HID light anyway, a long as everything is wired properly...
Looking good for a test grow anyway, go with what your comfortable with and good luck for the rest of it and most importantly enjoy!
