I was out of it a little with my dad dying 250 miles away, when I got back I found half my plants with the little yellow dots, took out my magnifyer, and I have Tarantula wanna be's on my plants. I hung a hot shot strip up. The grow area is 4x4 feet with panda film up. I treated 4 of the worst plants with neem, but their revegges and no way to treat that many leaves. I just drenched the whole plant. I am 5 weeks from harvest so is this ok? Everything I read says neem is safe for humans and even is used as medicine like pot. Sound good or is their more? I have a moderate case of these things, not deadly yet, but not just one plant and a few leaves either. They would be in the entire grow room by now. Pest strip has been up one day. I'm going to start running the leaves of the remaining plants through my fingers a little every day
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Spider mites! Should I do more?
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I am a freak when it comes to plants that are flowering. I will not spray anything on them other than water.
But, I experienced mites recently, much further into flower than you, and I just let them go. I cut the plants down whole, and when I hung them upside down, in a day or two, the mites were just swarming on the top (or bottom, the cut end upside down)I turned the cut area black by crushing them. They even started to create some webbing in the crotch of branches near the base of the cut. But they are dry and trimmed now, no mites to see.
I went scorched earth on my clones, neemed them to hell. 70% neem solution cut down.
no sign of them now, three weeks, every week good spray of neem.
peace
jip good luck
But, I experienced mites recently, much further into flower than you, and I just let them go. I cut the plants down whole, and when I hung them upside down, in a day or two, the mites were just swarming on the top (or bottom, the cut end upside down)I turned the cut area black by crushing them. They even started to create some webbing in the crotch of branches near the base of the cut. But they are dry and trimmed now, no mites to see.
I went scorched earth on my clones, neemed them to hell. 70% neem solution cut down.
no sign of them now, three weeks, every week good spray of neem.
peace
jip good luck
Pest strips? That's for flying and crawling insects that will actually LEAVE the plant leaf. Those spider mites (if that's what you have in fact) will dig in deep. What you want to do immediately is consider "CONTROL"....that is to say: neem won't take 'em out completely....just never seen it happen. Some people have insinuated that there's simply no way to eliminate them (which I disagree with, but I'll get into that at the end of this post)....I've been told you need to switch up the sprays you use....one time use neem, another time use "safer soap", another time use capsaicin....
Use biologic predators (spider mite predators, lady bugs, etc.) also when you've gotten most of the bugs under control.
I played that game for a long, long time...and those f-ing bastards kept coming back and ate the shit out of my plants...sucking the life and resin right out of them.
Then I found a heavy duty industrial pesticide called "AVID". You'll have to do a search, it's not easy to find....but let me tell you I did 3 back to back applications......and it wiped out EVERYTHING living.
Conversely, I had to take precautions in spraying it......I was sick to my stomach and it gave me the crazy ass shits.....I can't lie to you....it does to humans what it does to bugs....fucks up their whole digestive system. You need to seriously limit your exposure. I think doing it once and getting rid of the problem was worthwhile.....everything else just delayed the inevitable.
Of course I couldn't smoke any of the stuff that was sprayed. I instead got everything back to vegative, and did a few cycles of clones that eventually turned into moms....re-cloned, recreated moms and then started anew. I wasn't about to smoke anything that had been sprayed in recent history. If just spraying it made me feel sick to my stomach....I can imagine what it would be like ingesting/smoking it.
When it was all done and said....nothing was crawling 'round....and the plants never looked healthier.
My best suggestion to you is control the buggers right now...try the conservative solutions also. When you can get back to just "moms", I'd treat them....clone them and grow them out. You should have no bugs after that.
The biological predators are also great to use when you don't want to spray during your "control phase". They just concentrate on eating the bastards you don't want.
I would also liberally spray the plants down with water....spider mites will get washed off the leaves.....as soon as they start making web-cities and bridges....you're pretty much screwed. A heavy duty fan will also keep them blowng around and make it difficult for them to do their dirty work.
Good luck. I'm sure there are alot of "gasps" and horrified expressions being made by "organic" growers and people that are against the chemicals. I will just say for the record that I did try not to use the "ultimate doomsday weapon"....but got frustrated with iffy results from stuff that was just far too gentle.
I'll let you know if I mutate into some sort of freak b/c of the spray.
Good luck.
Use biologic predators (spider mite predators, lady bugs, etc.) also when you've gotten most of the bugs under control.
I played that game for a long, long time...and those f-ing bastards kept coming back and ate the shit out of my plants...sucking the life and resin right out of them.
Then I found a heavy duty industrial pesticide called "AVID". You'll have to do a search, it's not easy to find....but let me tell you I did 3 back to back applications......and it wiped out EVERYTHING living.
Conversely, I had to take precautions in spraying it......I was sick to my stomach and it gave me the crazy ass shits.....I can't lie to you....it does to humans what it does to bugs....fucks up their whole digestive system. You need to seriously limit your exposure. I think doing it once and getting rid of the problem was worthwhile.....everything else just delayed the inevitable.
Of course I couldn't smoke any of the stuff that was sprayed. I instead got everything back to vegative, and did a few cycles of clones that eventually turned into moms....re-cloned, recreated moms and then started anew. I wasn't about to smoke anything that had been sprayed in recent history. If just spraying it made me feel sick to my stomach....I can imagine what it would be like ingesting/smoking it.
When it was all done and said....nothing was crawling 'round....and the plants never looked healthier.
My best suggestion to you is control the buggers right now...try the conservative solutions also. When you can get back to just "moms", I'd treat them....clone them and grow them out. You should have no bugs after that.
The biological predators are also great to use when you don't want to spray during your "control phase". They just concentrate on eating the bastards you don't want.
I would also liberally spray the plants down with water....spider mites will get washed off the leaves.....as soon as they start making web-cities and bridges....you're pretty much screwed. A heavy duty fan will also keep them blowng around and make it difficult for them to do their dirty work.
Good luck. I'm sure there are alot of "gasps" and horrified expressions being made by "organic" growers and people that are against the chemicals. I will just say for the record that I did try not to use the "ultimate doomsday weapon"....but got frustrated with iffy results from stuff that was just far too gentle.
I'll let you know if I mutate into some sort of freak b/c of the spray.
Good luck.
Shlomo
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If you're five weeks from harvest then the plants have pretty much just started in with bud production, right? If you can keep humidity in check, I would suggest hitting everything with the neem or Einstein oil, though risky - a sulfur burner is so helpful.
If you were growing a strongly indica or other mold-prone variety like BC Big Bud, for instance, or you've had problems with mold, I'd look into biological controls - miticidal bugs like these ones.
If you were growing a strongly indica or other mold-prone variety like BC Big Bud, for instance, or you've had problems with mold, I'd look into biological controls - miticidal bugs like these ones.
yep mites suck (and no fukin pun intended).
we bombed the room 3 times within a week, sprayed the floor and walls with dormant oil (smothers the eggs), spread D.E. on the floor, and coated the sides of the buckets with a D.E. paste, put a little dab of petro jelly on the stalk , about 3'' from the soil line, sprayed with neem oil, then safer's, then a combo of tobacco juice and hot pepper... and those fuker's were laughing at us every step of the way...
while we hate to use chemicals... we were at our wits end, so we bought floramite... 145 euro's.. the plants were still veggin, sprayed them and then again 3 days later, then again 21 days later rite before starting 12/12... so far all is good...
we see the eggs on the bottom of various leaves... but so far not a live mite... fingers crossed for the balance of 12/12...but so far so good...
we bombed the room 3 times within a week, sprayed the floor and walls with dormant oil (smothers the eggs), spread D.E. on the floor, and coated the sides of the buckets with a D.E. paste, put a little dab of petro jelly on the stalk , about 3'' from the soil line, sprayed with neem oil, then safer's, then a combo of tobacco juice and hot pepper... and those fuker's were laughing at us every step of the way...
while we hate to use chemicals... we were at our wits end, so we bought floramite... 145 euro's.. the plants were still veggin, sprayed them and then again 3 days later, then again 21 days later rite before starting 12/12... so far all is good...
we see the eggs on the bottom of various leaves... but so far not a live mite... fingers crossed for the balance of 12/12...but so far so good...
Tactical Farmer
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Avid Kills Mites DEAD
the Rock
Active member
I would suggest floramite also, I had mites tried everything (bombs, predator mites,sprays) they work temporarily but the mites adapt and come back. Tried floramite totally wiped them out, now I spray it about once every 90 days for preventive maintenence .floramite doesnt seem to affect the plants at all either.
I also tried a few types of predator mites didnt work good they take weeks to make a difference and need perfect conditions to keep them alive
I also tried a few types of predator mites didnt work good they take weeks to make a difference and need perfect conditions to keep them alive
yep floramite is the bomb... every 90days... sound like a plan... a good plan..
mites were never a problem until the late 40's/early 50's when ddt was introduced.. that shit killed everything, including the good predators which kept the mite population at bay...
hope the bastards don't get immune to it...
mites were never a problem until the late 40's/early 50's when ddt was introduced.. that shit killed everything, including the good predators which kept the mite population at bay...
hope the bastards don't get immune to it...
