Spider mites broad mites and fungus gnats.. found a panacea.

[H e d g e]

This is blowing my mind so had to share. Broad mights destroyed my groom longer ago than I care to remember. I tried everything, nothing worked and I was damaging my lungs smoking sulphur residue so I’ve just been buying stuff in every now and then when I forget how terrible the local produce is.

Tried starting some tomatoes in my covered area by the back door this year and they were infested and dying before it was time to put them out. Would have chucked them but I had some baccy growing in the same pots and pretty much as soon as it sprouted all the mites left and the tomatoes recovered.

So to test the theory I set up my tent indoors and filled some pots with left over soil from some micro greens that’d been sitting in a bucket outside for a couple of months, mites, fungus gnats everywhere, absolutely crawling.
Put some fresh baccy leaves in the blender with some pond water, poured the green goop into the pots and chucked in some Baluchi seeds that I know from the last time I grew them have absolutely no mite resistance whatsoever.

All the bugs gone. I can’t quite believe it and keep looking in there expecting half eaten sick plants. Not a bug to be seen and the plants are healthy but I’m in a pretty serious state of shock.

 

[Paradox808]

Baccy as in tobacco? I've been struggling with mites this last round and it's been dragging me down mentally. 30 days in so I've stopped spraying most things and been slacking on the routine sprays these past few days.

I just harvested some tobacco and was thinking about making a spray. But motivations been low

 

[H e d g e]

Baccy as in tobacco? I've been struggling with mites this last round and it's been dragging me down mentally. 30 days in so I've stopped spraying most things and been slacking on the routine sprays these past few days.

I just harvested some tobacco and was thinking about making a spray. But motivations been low

Yup, baccy/tobacco. I used the nicotiana rustica Aztec variety though so not sure if normal tobacco would be as effective.
This stuff is 30% nicotine, it’s like the difference between Thai and cannatonic, smoking a tiny bit half the size of a match stick feels like drinking about 15 espresso shots.

This is an interesting interview with an Amazonian dr who specialises in tobacco medicine talking about it if you’re interested? I wouldn’t risk giving it to anyone with a heart condition.

Frontiers | “Tobacco Is the Chief Medicinal Plant in My Work”: Therapeutic Uses of Tobacco in Peruvian Amazonian Medicine Exemplified by the Work of a Maestro Tabaquero

IntroductionHarmful usage of tobacco is a public health problem of global concern and, in many countries, the main risk factor for non-communicable diseases....

www.frontiersin.org

 

[pop_rocks]

tobacco is actually a very effective insecticide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobac...co juice, tobacco,it as an insecticide poison.

does it leave any residue on the finished buds? i know some people who hate tobacco and to them its almost overpowers the weed

 

[H e d g e]

tobacco is actually a very effective insecticide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_water#:~:text=Tobacco water, tobacco juice, tobacco,it as an insecticide poison.

does it leave any residue on the finished buds? i know some people who hate tobacco and to them its almost overpowers the weed

Yeah, nicotine increases uptake of cannabinoids by 45% and seems to change the effect.
Not sure if spraying would leave a residue, supposed to be effective for 6 weeks if sprayed so maybe. Doubt it’d make it into the resin if you use it systemically on the roots though, could make hash?

 

[pop_rocks]

i see, i thought you were using it a foliar spray
great hack man, keep us posted on how it works
have you tried it outdoors?

 

[H e d g e]

i see, i thought you were using it a foliar spray
great hack man, keep us posted on how it works
have you tried it outdoors?

It worked on my tomatoes outdoors just by growing it in the same pot and that wasn’t even rustica, just normal Black Sea basma baccy about 3% nicotine.

 

[Paradox808]

Great read. I suppose I'll need to make an extraction and do some tests on residual stick late into flower

 

[H e d g e]

Great read. I suppose I'll need to make an extraction and do some tests on residual stick late into flower

It’d be interesting to know if it makes it into the resin and how it affects soil biology using it as a root drench.
Its water soluble so bubble hash might be the way to clean the resin if you spray the buds and don’t want any residue, I prefer buds with baccy but I know some people have an aversion to it.

 

[igrowone]

Yeah, nicotine increases uptake of cannabinoids by 45% and seems to change the effect.
Not sure if spraying would leave a residue, supposed to be effective for 6 weeks if sprayed so maybe. Doubt it’d make it into the resin if you use it systemically on the roots though, could make hash?

did some quick reading, seems nicotine can be absorbed by plant roots, broad beans was the example I read up on
nicotine is very systemic in this regard, does make sense it would poison out a lot of things

 

[H e d g e]

did some quick reading, seems nicotine can be absorbed by plant roots, broad beans was the example I read up on
nicotine is very systemic in this regard, does make sense it would poison out a lot of things

Often the only difference between medicine and poison is a matter of dose, I chucked loads of this on my plants and so far no ill effects.

In the article/interview I posted earlier the tobacconist/dr was saying that energetically it selectively predates pathogens..

‘it removes energetic pollutants from the system, thereby increasing the flow of energy in the body, which in turn improves health of body and mind. Furthermore, according to Amazonian epistemologies, there are illnesses that are expressly related to spirits (noncorporeal living beings, which can be health- or sickness-promoting). The tobacco is said to be effective for such illnesses because the plant itself is associated with a powerfully healing spirit, which antagonizes malevolent entities: With tobacco [these kinds of illnesses] get cured in one go, because demons cannot live where there is tobacco.’

Bees love it but mites won’t go near it, thinking of getting a microscope to see if it’s also selectively predating pathogenic microorganisms in the soil.

 

[igrowone]

anything that kills insects so well you have to pause and consider what it could do to people
I haven't seen nicotine being used routinely for this which would make me want to read further
understood you're using an organic sort of brew and this may be fine
there seem to be a number of agricultural settings where nicotine levels are monitored and may result in food stuffs not usable for human consumption

 

[H e d g e]

anything that kills insects so well you have to pause and consider what it could do to people
I haven't seen nicotine being used routinely for this which would make me want to read further
understood you're using an organic sort of brew and this may be fine
there seem to be a number of agricultural settings where nicotine levels are monitored and may result in food stuffs not usable for human consumption

The use of synthetic nicotine/neonicotinoids as an insecticide is common in food production and flea collars for cats ect. but there’s a lot of controversy over it’s use because of its lethal effect on bees.

Doesn’t seem to be an issue with organic plant derived nicotine though, quite the opposite. Very popular with pollinators.

Have you read the article I posted? It was suggesting that the issues with cancer and emphysema that are associated with cigarette smoking are a result of adulteration, the addition of formaldehyde ect.

In the Amazon where they have a massive diversity of medicinal plants to choose between, tobacco is the most commonly prescribed. Their word for dr is derived from the translation of person who eats tobacco.

It appears that cannabis is not the only plant we’ve been systematically misinformed about.

 

[igrowone]

have not read it yet, was in the mindset with respect to commercial practices
when I read your post I got to thinking about nicotine and how good an insecticide it is
which lead to thinking that it would be probably very effective aginst the borg
thanks for opening the thread, I've had the borg and keep an eye out for remedies

 

[Normannen]

I can confirm, been using Ol'Toby as pest control companion plant for 3 years now
look at the yellow leaf in zoom, all the black "rods" are thrips and gnat larvae

EDIT: and they are DEAD

 

[H e d g e]

have not read it yet, was in the mindset with respect to commercial practices
when I read your post I got to thinking about nicotine and how good an insecticide it is
which lead to thinking that it would be probably very effective aginst the borg
thanks for opening the thread, I've had the borg and keep an eye out for remedies

Trying the rustica variety gave me a whole new perspective and respect for tobacco, I rolled a cigarette and after smoking half of it was pretty convinced I was about to die of a heart attack.
It’s great in tiny amounts but does require caution when consuming it.

I reckon it won’t get into the resin if used systemically via the roots but suspect that smoking buds containing residue of the rustica variety could potentially be problematic depending on the levels and any underlying health issues.

Might be safer to use tobacco of a lower strength if you’re smoking it as bud. Total conjecture though, won’t know until I try it.

 

[Normannen]

Trying the rustica variety gave me a whole new perspective and respect for tobacco, I rolled a cigarette and after smoking half of it was pretty convinced I was about to die of a heart attack.
It’s great in tiny amounts but does require caution when consuming it.

I reckon it won’t get into the resin if used systemically via the roots but suspect that smoking buds containing residue of the rustica variety could potentially be problematic depending on the levels and any underlying health issues.

Might be safer to use tobacco of a lower strength if you’re smoking it as bud. Total conjecture though, won’t know until I try it.

The cannabis will not absorb the nicotine through its roots, i use it also as foliar spray, but it decayse pretty quickly, so even if you were to spray it on buds it would break down and evaporate after about a week or two...of course if you spray it and then harvest your bud fresh you might get nicotine in your bud, but I always stop any spraying before bud onset to avoid any contamination.

 

[H e d g e]

The cannabis will not absorb the nicotine through its roots, i use it also as foliar spray, but it decayse pretty quickly, so even if you were to spray it on buds it would break down and evaporate after about a week or two...of course if you spray it and then harvest your bud fresh you might get nicotine in your bud, but I always stop any spraying before bud onset to avoid any contamination.

The rustica Aztec variety seems to be working for me as a root drench, could be it’s just killed all the mites in the soil though rather than acting systemically within the plant.

 

[igrowone]

The rustica Aztec variety seems to be working for me as a root drench, could be it’s just killed all the mites in the soil though rather than acting systemically within the plant.

this does make your thread interesting
it sounds like there was absorption into the plant, but without lab analysis that's just a conjecture
cannabis is known to quite effective for uptake of heavy metals, has been used in soil remediation for that purpose
and nicotine can be absorbed through the roots by certain other plants

 

[H e d g e]

To add to the interest, tobacco produces nicotine in the roots and pushes it through the leaves from the bottom up, lower leaves having a higher nicotine content than upper ones.
The rustica Aztec is cold hardy, can be grown as a short lived perennial, and is unique in that it’s possible to graft other plant species onto it.
Probably asking for TMV but would be fun to try.