Spanish grown buds are top notch

[need4weed]

I've just returned from a brief holiday in catalonia where my girlfriends brother lives. On the first night there he pulled out his stash where I immediately inspected it. I knew straight away it was a well grown outdoor sativa. It was a typical sativa structure but smelled very fruity. He refered to it as being a mild smoke and that he prefers it over strains that mash your brain after 2 hits. I have to disagree, I found it very potent but in a different way to being clubbed over the head and left in daze. This weed was the epitome of sativa. It came on gently and gave a very warm feeling, it had mental clarity and promoted conversation. It came in waves were you would peak with an electric feeling. A bit like doing a line of coke. After this peak it would bring you back down to this warm feeling. This went on for well over 4 hours. The best herb I've had in years. I would love to know what strain it was. Has anyone else had a similar experience with strains grown in spain ?

 

[MadMac]

Looks like Malawi...

Looks like Malawi...

high need4weed,
MALAWI > the early fruity pheno !
This is the plant outdoors @ 51° north europa near amsterdam...

This was the only Sativa that finished proper here outdoors and has it all like you describe ...
M.

 

[need4weed]

Hey madman. I have ace malawi but yet to grow it out. I am keen to try it and see how it compares. I just loved how the buzz came in waves

 

[MostlyMe]

The wave-like character is the tell-tale sign of primo sativa. I've grown a couple of plants that do that - indoors, so the Spanish sun is not a requirement, although I'm pretty sure it's superior to my little hps bulb. Unfortunately, after some time I cannot get the wave experience from the same stash anymore. I am not sure if that's part of the curing process or my brain chemistry adapting. It does seems tolerance related.

 

[jay sus]

there´s always two mechanisms countering drug uptake. other is tolerance, other is immunization. so if you take any given drug or in ganjas case combo of drugs, brains start to adapt and counter it´s effects. so even if you don´t develope tolerance, you still lose primo effect on a strain. can´t be helped.

 

[MostlyMe]

there´s always two mechanisms countering drug uptake. other is tolerance, other is immunization. so if you take any given drug or in ganjas case combo of drugs, brains start to adapt and counter it´s effects. so even if you don´t develope tolerance, you still lose primo effect on a strain. can´t be helped.

Interesting, I had not heard of immunization. This would mean that the more strains I smoke, the more rare unique experiences (like the wave character) become, because my brain has adapted to more and more cannabinoid/terpene combinations. Correct?

 

[Mohadib]

'Spanish Trampoline'

'Spanish Trampoline'

My brother and his girlfriend where visiting a friend in Catalonia last year - about 30km from Girona. The guy they were visiting is growing outdoors as well. But since it was early may when they were down there, he didn't have any weed left, so he phoned in a friend of his, who came by with a whole shopping bag of nice buds and left it there for them. One of the buds had a single seed in it, which I was gifted when they got back home.

Well, I grew it out and it became a wonderful, vigorous, sativa-dominant female plant, which is now a permanent part of my garden.
It grows very fast, bushes out nicely and is done in about 70 days of 12/12 (so it's very likely a hybrid, but definitely leaning towards it's sativa heritage).
When flowering it has a unique floral/fruity, yet slightly earthy/woody smell to it. The bud structure is very sativarish: it has very long and thin pistels (up to about 3cm) that expand very rapidly from week three of flowering. From week six until the end it bulks up nicely and has a strong tendency to develop foxtails, even at low temperatures.
The bud structure is fluffy but dense nonetheless. It also has the tendency to purple-up late in flower, which is a nice bonus on the visual side of aesthetics

The dried buds don't smell too exotic (pretty much just like common weed), unless you crumble them, which results in an explosion of aromas, with a super pungent smell of overripe fruits being the most dominant one. The smell translates well into the taste, though it's a little more berry-like and less sour.

I write all this because the effects of the buds you smoked perfectly resemble the effects of the buds from my plant and I'm very keen to find out, what I have been gifted with (though I'm pretty sure I'm never going to find out, unless I travel to Catalonia myself^^)

Maybe it's similar genetics - who knows

Ah, before I forget: here's what the buds of my 'Spanish Trampoline' look like:

 

[dubi]

Hi need4weed,

I'm glad you have enjoyed your holidays

Hard to tell about the genetics... there are plenty of good growers around the country (plenty of bad ones too) growing all kind of genetics, so everything is possible.

Nowadays most of the people here grows auto, critical/skunk, diesel variants, kushes and indica clones. I think you were very lucky to have the chance to try a good sativa as they are becoming very rare here, unless you grow them by yourself or you have friends with wider growing experience and wider personal preferences than the mainstream. Unfortunately this is the trend nowadays in the western cannabis world, the good sativa will become something very precious, but rare to find.

Thinking positively, the best sativa buds i've tried in my life have been grown here in the warm spanish mediterranean coast, so everything is not lost yet.

 

[MostlyMe]

Not taking advantage of the Spanish climate to grow sativas in all their glory should be punished! Over here up north I would kill for a longer summer

 

[hard rain]

high need4weed,
MALAWI > the early fruity pheno !
This is the plant outdoors @ 51° north europa near amsterdam...
View Image
This was the only Sativa that finished proper here outdoors and has it all like you describe ...
M.

With respect MadMac, the high he describes is not the type of high I'm getting from my Ace Malawi. Don't get me wrong, i like the Malawi but I wouldn't describe it the way n4w describes the Spanish stuff. I find the Malawi so far to be a heavier type of sativa high.

Whatever it was it sounds nice. The high sounds a bit like kali mist type of high (apart form the waves bit), Just my 2c.

 

[hard rain]

Hi need4weed,

I'm glad you have enjoyed your holidays

Hard to tell about the genetics... there are plenty of good growers around the country (plenty of bad ones too) growing all kind of genetics, so everything is possible.

Nowadays most of the people here grows auto, critical/skunk, diesel variants, kushes and indica clones. I think you were very lucky to have the chance to try a good sativa as they are becoming very rare here, unless you grow them by yourself or you have friends with wider growing experience and wider personal preferences than the mainstream. Unfortunately this is the trend nowadays in the western cannabis world, the good sativa will become something very precious, but rare to find.

Thinking positively, the best sativa buds i've tried in my life have been grown here in the warm spanish mediterranean coast, so everything is not lost yet.

Hey Dubi, if you're still around, what do you have that mostly resembles the high described by need4weed?
Just to remind,he says "It came on gently and gave a very warm feeling, it had mental clarity and promoted conversation. It came in waves were you would peak with an electric feeling. A bit like doing a line of coke. After this peak it would bring you back down to this warm feeling. This went on for well over 4 hours."

Or anyone else for that matter. I don't understand the modern obsession with flavour. To me the high is everything. It's all that matters.

 

[need4weed]

Hi need4weed,

I'm glad you have enjoyed your holidays

Hard to tell about the genetics... there are plenty of good growers around the country (plenty of bad ones too) growing all kind of genetics, so everything is possible.

Nowadays most of the people here grows auto, critical/skunk, diesel variants, kushes and indica clones. I think you were very lucky to have the chance to try a good sativa as they are becoming very rare here, unless you grow them by yourself or you have friends with wider growing experience and wider personal preferences than the mainstream. Unfortunately this is the trend nowadays in the western cannabis world, the good sativa will become something very precious, but rare to find.

Thinking positively, the best sativa buds i've tried in my life have been grown here in the warm spanish mediterranean coast, so everything is not lost yet.

Hi Dubi thanks for chiming in. Your comments really suprised me to be honest. I would have thought that sativas would be very much prevelant but like you say the western cannabis world are driven by money hence fast flowering autos and weighty indicas. It's pretty much the same here in the uk.

I've collected many sativa strains over the years but don't grow them as the uk market doesn't demand them. Growing up in Australia all you could get back in the day was south East Asian sativas. Had some very memorable gear over the years.

My brother inlaw and his circle still grow sativas. His lady friend who grew the sample that I mentioned apparently grows the same 4 strains so I will try to find out what it is when I go back in a few weeks

 

[need4weed]

Hey Dubi, if you're still around, what do you have that mostly resembles the high described by need4weed?
Just to remind,he says "It came on gently and gave a very warm feeling, it had mental clarity and promoted conversation. It came in waves were you would peak with an electric feeling. A bit like doing a line of coke. After this peak it would bring you back down to this warm feeling. This went on for well over 4 hours."

Or anyone else for that matter. I don't understand the modern obsession with flavour. To me the high is everything. It's all that matters.

Hard rain I am with you man, it has to be about the effects first and foremost and if it happens to taste nice the that's a bonus in my books

I will hunt down the strain or even a cut and report back

 

[Terpene]

"It came on gently and gave a very warm feeling, it had mental clarity and promoted conversation. It came in waves were you would peak with an electric feeling. A bit like doing a line of coke. After this peak it would bring you back down to this warm feeling. This went on for well over 4 hours."

Look into the green pheno of Ace's Old Timer's Haze, if you want it to be more electric and bit quicker to flower, Old Timers Haze x Thai. I also like the conversational "warmness" of Ace Orient Express.

 

[dubi]

Thanks Terpene, good recommendations!

Orient Express is very good choice if you are looking for a warm social effect, but it's not so electric like could be a good Green Haze or Green Haze/Thai .... or if you want a stronger, electric, uplifting, social yet warm effect then Zamaldelica refined Zamal mango carrot pheno would be my main choice.

 

[BruceBanner]

Maybe it was something from Original Delicatessen, they have floral smelling sativas

 

[sourpuss]

Personally i think the grower popped a lot of seeds over many years and found a winner... i doubt its a seed line. Just my 2 cents...

 

[baduy]

I've had dried buds samples of Reina Madre aka Queen mother by original delicatessen. It matches perfectly your description, very potent like one joint and your good for a nice ride but very social and long lasting.
The perfect dope to remain active while high as a fly,like smoking on the beach while playing soccer and a floral smell which even a non-smoker girl of the crew asked for a slight puf next time we'd roll one cause "that one smelled really nice".
I got a pack of those beans in regular form and can't wait to try these along with some other ACE and RSC gear waiting in the fridge.
The thing is apart from ACE,OD and Cannabiogen which seem to be related to a certain point I don't know any other interesting Spanish Breeder and I know people who grew Spanish seeds bought in La Jonquera which had absolutely nothing to write about.
So I'd be interested if somebody knows about other ones. If not I suppose there is just a small awesome crew of people heading together in the right Direction who deserve a big

 

[farmerlion]

So true ..so sad.. Thank you Ace!

So true ..so sad.. Thank you Ace!

Hi need4weed,

Nowadays most of the people here grows auto, critical/skunk, diesel variants, kushes and indica clones. I think you were very lucky to have the chance to try a good sativa as they are becoming very rare here, unless you grow them by yourself or you have friends with wider growing experience and wider personal preferences than the mainstream. Unfortunately this is the trend nowadays in the western cannabis world, the good sativa will become something very precious, but rare to find.

Thinking positively, the best sativa buds i've tried in my life have been grown here in the warm spanish mediterranean coast, so everything is not lost yet.

Dubi, all the more reason to stay heavy into sativas. PLEASE Reading several threads on the USA State by State. Mostly a bunch of complaining about the same old Indica plant known by 150 different names. (tasteless, over fertilized, crap). Thank you for your dedication to quality genetics.
Long live the Sativa !!!