Someone sends you something

[Tudo]

You don't know what it is exactly but you do find out that a box was sent to a post office box apparently was heavy and broke open. While they could have put it in a large box for pick up, they didn't , apparently taped it up and and want the recipient to pick it up. Hypothetically your address is on file but you did not send this to yourself obviously. Can anything happen here?


How would you feel? Would you be worried about somebody coming to to and claiming you knew about it? Would you go and pick it up? What if anything would you do?

 

[igrowone]

i think it's safe to believe that whoever might investigate will believe the recipient was aware of what was sent to them
they won't be able to prove that of course without other evidence
a controlled delivery is commonly used to build a stronger case

 

[Hydro8]

I would not touch it , clam it or acknowledge it. Especially if you had not ordered anything in the past couple of months. It is up to legal entities to build a case if they want to charge someone. Everything, ever move is something for them to use.

I would be worried about someone wanting revenge just box up a felony and send it out to the person they want to harm. No Thanks.

 

[troutman]

Plausible Deniability Tek:

1. Go get the box and leave it unopened.

2. Immediately write Return to Sender on the box.

3. Wait a week to open it.

4. If anything will happen it will within a day or two I bet.

Note:

If anyone knocks on your door. Tell them you had intention on returning it because
you don't know the sender. Hence, why you wrote Return to Sender on the box.

If sending something illegal to people was enough to have them arrested I imagine a
Judge, Police Chief, Lawyer, Mayor in my city would have been arrested by now for
getting drugs in the mail.

If they can't prove you knew what was in the box or the sender. They'll be at a loss I bet.

 

[moose eater]

My preferred option isn't really offered in the poll.

Proving you knew something was being sent to you is difficult. Unless you open it, find something questionable, and fail to report it.. or there's phone or other records proving your knowledge of the items and the sending of it to you. Then you become a knowing recipient.

I've known a person to (against my advice) continue receiving things in the mail, years ago, under a third-party name, to a 2nd party's address, and continued to do so after it was known that the USPS was probing 'suspicious packages' with (what I was led to believe then was) gas chromatography swabs on long narrow probes.

He picked up one such package, and knew well enough to deposit it into an adjacent building on his property, and to NOT OPEN IT (!!!).

When the 5 or 6 different alphabet soup agencies (Postal Inspector, Federal Marshalls, DEA, State Troopers, et al), not surprisingly, in vehicles straight out of Men in Black', showed up in his driveway shortly there after, the package was still unopened, to his benefit.

Again, difficult to claim you know what's in a sealed box, right?. Plausible deniability.

But if you decide to meet it head-on, & pick it up, then leave it set for... who knows how long..... until you're confident you won't incriminate yourself by opening it.

All of this depending on an absence of other records, phones, etc., that might incriminate you in re. to linking you to the contents of the box or the sender.

And, if you decide you're going in to pick it up (as opposed to writing it off, and letting it lay), then practice some breathing exercises before going in. Seriously.

 

[GatorGumbo]

Refuse the package. It will be returned to the sender.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I have a few connections. I'll check on this.

 

[Dropped Cat]

Pack up and move to another state tomorrow.

lol.

 

[troutman]

Pack up and move to another state tomorrow.

lol.

What happens if he gets mail there?

 

[scrogrow]

Change ya name and get some plastic surgery man you'll be fine

 

[Rocky Mtn Squid]

i had a friend whose old lady was being sent hash from overseas. The first few packages made it, no problems. Then one time, a package was nabbed by the post office.

Sure enough, when it didn't arrive, the Fed's showed up at her door days later. She claimed innocence with her cute puppy dog eyes, and for whatever reason, the Fed's believed her.



RMS

 

[Dropped Cat]

What happens if he gets mail there?

Oh man, snap

Rinse, lather, repeat

lol

 

[TychoMonolyth]

i had a friend whose old lady was being sent hash from overseas. The first few packages made it, no problems. Then one time, a package was nabbed by the post office.

Sure enough, when it didn't arrive, the Fed's showed up at her door days later. She claimed innocence with her cute puppy dog eyes, and for whatever reason, the Fed's believed her.



RMS

It's not about of believing or not. They just don't have anything incriminating on you. A cop's sole reason to ask you a question is to get you to say something incriminating so they can put you in jail. Period.

If they were there to pick you up, there wouldn't be any knocking on your door. They would just bust in, slap you around, cuff you, ransack your house and put you in the sin bin.

 

[Stoner4Life]

forward it to tRump.......

 

[MJPassion]

If you don’t know what’s in the box, go see what it is & follow the protocol you deem appropriate.
This thread alone, if connected to a possible case, could be considered incriminating.

 

[Hydro8]

I knew of someone who lost package, personal use amount of stuff. A few weeks later some thugs from everyone favorite alphabet gang came to the door when he was at work. They told his wife she could let them in to search the home or... they would get a warrant, tear the place apart, they would lose kids, go to prison, bank accts frozen, get fed to wolves,etc

She let them in, they spent sometime searching found nothing. No one was arrested but it turned into a divorce. I am sure they grilled the wife until she gave them permission and some probable cause. And... that is why any lawyer will say "Say Nothing."

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Then why didn't they come with a warrant in the first place? lol.

Scaring or tricking someone into letting them in should be illegal.

 

[I wood]

Then why didn't they come with a warrant in the first place? lol.

Scaring or tricking someone into letting them in should be illegal.

Yes, which is why it is so important to educate yourself about your own rights.

And learn about jury nullification while you are at it, powerful rights you have already. Don’t waste them.

 

[MJPassion]

The power of jury nullification is profound.

If more people knew of its power,
Less people would try and get out of jury duty.

 

[moose eater]

Then why didn't they come with a warrant in the first place? lol.

Scaring or tricking someone into letting them in should be illegal.

Tycho, If interested, research the legal concept of 'coerced consent to search' in the Alaska Appellate Courts; numerous cases dismissed on the belief that when a cop with a badge and gun asks for permission, it's a lot different than other more benign persons asking for permission to access something.

From home-based grow ops & related searches on the Kenai Peninsula about 25 years ago or so, involving State Troopers (in conjunction with Nat'l Guard troops), to a North Pole, Alaska case involving a bad tail-light, a crack pipe in a purse, and a woman with a previous bust for similar vices.

Having a thoughtful Appellate or Supreme Court helps tons.

These dismissals all dealt with implied coercion, not necessarily overt coercion, too.

Of significant surprise, in the Kenai grow-op cases, of 12 residences visited by the heavily-present goon squads, 9 homes with grows present consented to searches. As though at the time of consent, playing bluff poker with the buggers, some were silly enough to believe that if they feigned innocence, the cops would say, "Nah.. Just kidding..." and decide not to search.

if they're ASKING to search, damned well believe they INTEND to search.

Sometimes people can be more than a bit quizzical in their thought processes & decision-making..