SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME!

[JohnKushnedy]

I am a California medical marijuana patient and first time grower. I have 6 plants that I am growing outdoors in Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil, in 15 gallon pots, the strain is Barney's Farm Critical. 2 weeks ago I noticed my large old lower fan leaves started turning yellow and wilting and falling off, it started moving up my plant and now the lower half of my 6 plants towards the middle look empty because most of the large fan leaves fell off, and it is quickly moving towards the top, in fact some of the top leaves are beginning to yellow, and I am seeing some green leaves with light colored yellow spots on them.

There is a big pile of dead dried up fan leaves which I have piled up from all the leaves that fell off and died. It is now August 9 and my plants have started flowering about 2 weeks ago even though I did not switch from my Vegetative base to Flower, but once I noticed they started flowering I began to use my Flowering base in addition to the additives (I started using the Flowering base a week ago)

I am using "Super Nutrients" SBA/SBB as my Bloom Base (I was using SVA/SVB for Veg Base)
I am also using additives: OceanGro, HygroZyme, Ful-Power, DarkEnergy, Cal-Mag, Super-Thrive, and Hi-Brix (Base and All additives are at 1/2 strength)

I mix all the above nutrients at HALF strength into 9 gallons of water, I've found this is the appropriate amount of water my 6 plants need every 2 days to stay hydrated...

I water/feed every 2 days, for example; Monday I will feed (water+nutrients, PH balanced) skip a day, Wednesday I will give just PH balanced water, skip a day, Friday I will feed again (water+nutrients, PH balanced) and so on

The reason I am giving them everything in half strength is because I recently had a nutrient burn, while in Vegetative, I was giving everything (base and additives) in the recommended dosage, but my PPM was relatively low... about 600-700 if I remember correctly, so I decided to increase my Veg Base (SVA/SVB) from 5 ml per gallon to 6.5 ml per gallon, which surprisingly burned my plants...

After doing some research about plant problems/symptoms, the symptoms my plants are having resemble a plant with NITROGEN deficiency, but I believe I was giving the appropriate nutrients during vegging (SVA/SVB) which is a Vegetative Base nutrient, and now that my plant is about 2 weeks into Blooming it shouldn't need as much Nitrogen? and I am giving it SBA/SBB which is a Bloom Base nutrient at HALF strength, which I plan on increasing to recommended strength on my next feeding ( 5ml per gallon )

Here are some pictures I've taken with my cell phone, hopefully they are good enough to give you an idea of what might be the reason I am having these problems with my plants... please help me fix this... I really appreciate anyone who took the time out of their day to read my story, look at my pictures, and help by giving me some advice/instructions... Don't know what I'd do without you, Thank you in advance!!!

FULL VIEW OF ALL 6 PLANTS, THE 3 IN FRONT ARE THE SHORTER ONES, THE
3 IN THE BACK ARE A BIT TALLER, PLACED THEM THIS WAY FOR OPTIMUM LIGHT
PENETRATION...

LEAVES TURNING YELLOW, WILTING, DYING, FALLING OFF... STARTED FROM THE LOWER LARGE FAN LEAVES AND BEGAN TO WORK ITS WAY UP

ABOUT 2 WEEKS INTO BLOOMING, BLOOMING BEGAN ON ITS OWN, I WAS GIVING THE
PLANTS THE VEGETATIVE BASE NUTRIENT (SVA/SVB) AND IT BEGAN TO FLOWER ON
ITS OWN, SOON AFTER I BEGAN GIVING IT THE BLOOM BASE NUTRIENT (SBA/SBB)

SPOTTING IS ALSO OCCURING ON MANY LEAVES, ITS EVEN HAPPENING ON THE LEAVES THAT ARE HIGHER UP ON THE PLANT...

 

[iTarzan]

They are pot bound.

 

[JohnKushnedy]

They are pot bound.

Hi iTarzan,

so what can I do about this? are my plants going to die? will I still get a good yield? is there anything I can do?

Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it!

 

[Therealzemi]

Yes. Transplant to bigger pots. The plants have reached a size where the root amount cant support any more. With the size of your plants, you might need a helping hand though

 

[iTarzan]

Do what therealzemi posted.

You could just dig some holes to put them which might be easier when you are doing it by yourself.

You could cut off the bottom of the pot, dig up the soil some and place the pot on the loosened soil after separating the bottom roots.

You could just stay the course, ignore the yellow leaves and make it through harvest just fine. Your yield might suffer some but there will still be good buds.

 

[DJXX]

they look pretty awesome to me...i don't think you will loose enough in yield to even notice...if you repot them be gentle..some plants don't do well if stressed...and hate to seem em herm due to stress..like if you accidently break a branch..i have had em turn herm...i would just leave em alone....understand i have never grown one that big but i ran 5 gal buckets and it happened to me..DJXX

 

[Mikell]

Bottoming the pots is an interesting solution.

Can't be too much time for root growth left and the risk of damage is great without a solid helper. If you choose to stay the course, keep up the N until week 4 or 5 depending on total flowering time. Lighter more frequent doses.

 

[Payaso]

Having been there I would say do not transplant... they are flowering and the shock would definitely be harmful. Sounds to me like someone is nutrient happy when the solution would be to use bigger pots in the first place...

Let it be and keep em healthy, you'll have a harvest if you don't go messing things up.

 

[Granger2]

Agree with Payaso. Either leave them alone or just cut the bottom out of the pots, and sit them back down on the ground. If they want to root into the ground they will. Your crop looks great and you're going to have a crapload of bud. During bloom it's very common for some leaves to drop for different reasons. Don't worry about it. Good luck. -granger

 

[CannaOg]

Never transplant during flower just up the nutes or feed more often

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

Keep them in the containers thy are in. Water more frequently, with a weaker nute solution.

That 5 gal. pail was root bound, and I still pulled 10 ozs. from it.

 

[Robrites]

I have to place my vote in the do not transplant column. A month ago it would be OK but you have entered a critical time.

 

[waveguide]

never flowered outside, but i always think that moon phase must have some influence as i am always reading about flowering at different times. agree, don't fight if they know what they want to do.