Solution to the Electric Bill Issue?

[genkisan]

Bio-diesel generator running on old fryer oil.


Set up an oil collection service for a couple of greasy spoons, buy a diesel generator, convert it to run on veggie oil, and away you go.........folks will pay you to take your oil away, and the energy use never shows up anywhere.


And it's enviornmentaly friendly!!!


You can even buy them ready to run on veggie oil...here is one on e-Bay, a 30KW model for under $7K:

http://cgi.ebay.com/30KW-Open-Frame...yZ106437QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


You could run your whole house on that, and then some!!


Efficiency wise, you are looking at 2 gallons used every 24 hours, per kilowatt....thats 180 gallons of used fryer oil per kilowatt per 90 day cycle.

The set up might take a bit, but the stealth and the savings are well worthit, IMHO, esp fer larger ops.

 

[Insomniac]

SOLAR POWER

hey our plants use it, why don't we?

 

[Guest]

How to make Bio-diesel at home or farm
by

Honorable Mr. Agua Das

How to make Bio-diesel at home or farm (this is the secret your government doesn't want you to know because they are in bed with the oil industry, cigarette industry, alcohol industry, pharmaceutical industry, etc. etc., self sufficiency is not allowed and it has been made illegal! ):

From: Dave Cull [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Agua Das -- Hemp oil fuels
Date: Sunday, November 16, 1997 1:17 PM

Hemp Oil Fuels & How to Make Them
By: A. Das

Introduction of Hemp Bio Diesel maybe the liquid fuel of the future. Hemp is a high yield C-4 photosynthesis plant. Hemp can boast a higher oilseed yield than any of today's oilseed crops (soy, canola or safflower).

Thirty years ago soy beans were a joke to American farmers. Who would have guessed that in thirty years soy beans would become the largest oil and protein crop in American farming. Right now Hemp farming is a joke to American farmers. Who knows what the next thirty years will do to American Hemp farming. Hemp fuels are yet another benefit of Domestic Industrial Hemp Farming. As we enter 1997 more than ten states will be considering Industrial Hemp Farm Bills. In the meantime, Hempseed must be grown out side the country. The major part of the cost of the inexpensive Hempseed is transportation from across the globe. The seed to produce a gallon of Hemp-seed oil can cost up to $100. All foreign production and shipping plans are doomed to high costs. I look forward to the days when a farmer can produce his own hempseed oil fuel as low as a dollar a gallon.

The following formula for making Hemp Diesel Fuel will work nicely to make small quantities of fuel to run the sound stage at your Hemp Rally this summer. A 4 kilowatt diesel generator uses around one liter an hour .Imagine walking to the microphone and saying, "The sound of my voice is coming to you with the power of Hemp Fuel !". Seeing is believing. I'll drive you around the state capital, Senator, In my Hemp Fueled Vehicle!

Bio Diesel is not a new fuel. The DOE and USDA have provided funding for research for years. The Biomass Conference of The Americas in Burlington Vermont had over a dozen papers presented on all aspects of Hemp as an oilseed cultivars. Lets get on with it!

How to Make Bio Diesel Titration of Free Fatty Acids. Measure Free Fatty Acid content of your oil: Mix 1 ml oil with 10 ml Isopropyl alcohol = 2 drops phenolthalian solution (available in a hobby shop chemistry set suppliers). Drop-wise add 0.1% lye solution ( 1 gm lye in one liter water ) until the solution stays pink for 10 seconds. (20 drops = 1 ml) Record the milliliters of 0.1% lye solution used.

Methanol You will need 200 ml of methanol per liter of Hemp Seed oil. Methanol may be purchased as Drigas available at most automotive stores, read the label for methanol. Also Methanol is available from racing stores. Avoid hardware store methanol (wood alcohol) as it mat contain excessive water content.

Sodium Methoxide For each liter of hemp seed oil you need one gram of granular solid lye for each ml of 0.1% lye solution used in titration of free fatty acids plus 3.5 grams. Completely dissolve the proper amount of Lye in the methanol (Red Devil Lye can be purchased from the Grocery Store). This combined mixture makes sodium methoxide.

Mixer The type of mixer depends on the size of the batch. A blender works fine for a small batch. An electric drill and paint mixer on an extended shaft works well in a 5 gallon bucket. An electric light dimmer switch provides a good speed control.

Transesterfication Once the lye catalyst is dissolved completely so that there is no sediment, then the oil may be added to the methanol lye mixture while mixing continuously. At first the mixture becomes thicker, then thinner as the reaction proceeds. Collect samples every 5 minutes with an eye dropper into a test tube or clear container. The Mixture will separate into a light top layer of bio diesel and a darker bottom layer of glycerin, soap and catalyst. Continued mixing 30 - 60 minutes until the yield remains constant. Then stop mixing. Go have lunch. When you come back it will have settled into two distinct layers. You have just made what could be the fuel of the future for a self reliant society. Let the mixture settle for at least 8 hours. Pour off and save the bio diesel top layer into another container. A clear funnel bottomed container is helpful.

Rinsing The raw Bio Diesel that you have just produced may have some catalyst, alcohol, and glycerin remaining which could cause engine problems, so for long term engine reliability this raw fuel should be rinsed with water. Gently at first then more vigorously rinse with water until the rinse water is clear and the pH of the rinse water is the same pH as the supply water. Settle, Decant.

Drying Water in the bio Diesel makes cloudy so it must be carefully heated. At 100 C most of the water coalesces and falls to the bottom. This water must be completely removed from the bottom of the container before heating to higher temperature.

CAUTION! Wear protective clothing and eyewear. FAILURE TO REMOVE THIS WATER BEFORE FURTHER HEATING CAN CAUSE VIOLENT ERUPTION OF HOT LIQUID!

Once all water has been removed then heat the bio diesel to 300 f (150 c) to complete dryness. Cool, filter, and store bio diesel in a well marked dry closed container. 100% HEMP DIESEL FUEL (HEMP OIL METHYL ESTER - HOME FUEL)

This fuel may be mixed in any ratio with petroleum diesel. Dynamometer tests indicate full power output with up to 75% reduction in soot and particles. No engine modification is needed to burn bio diesel fuel.

Other Oil Feedstocks Hemp Seed Oil at present is too expensive to drive across the country. That is not the object of this article. Our purpose is to demonstrate proof of feasibility of this fuel concept. The time is now to give hemp a chance. The small quantities of Hemp Diesel Fuel can play a powerful role in educating ourselves and the policy makers about the hope in hemp.

For other readers the question will be raised. What else can I use can I use as a feedstock that is cheaper between now and domestic hemp seed crops? Soy, Sunflower, Canola, and Safflower oils are being used in field testing programs right now.

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As presented at The Future of Hemp in BC Conference Kamloops, British Columbia November 9th, 1997
by
Agua Das, consultant Original Sources
Email: [email protected]
P O Box 7137
Boulder, CO 80306
USA (303) 237-3579, 24 hour order line
office: (303) 237 3579


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Vegetable Oil Will Fuel New Jersey Test Buses! (source Inv. Buss. Daily)

NJTransit is conducting a four-month test of a blended diesel fuel containing vegetable oil, like that from soy beans (hemp-seed). The National Bio Diesel Board is providing the fuel free of charge, thanks to a grant from the United Soybean Board. The B-20 fuel, containing 20% vegetable oil, was developed by Twin Rivers Technologies, Inc. of Quincy, Mass


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*Industrial-Hemp has no psychoactive properties following definition of the European Economic Community (EEC); THC content is less than 0.3%. In general, low THC-seed varieties without psychoactive properties are those that have a THC content of less than 1%. (See also No-THC Hemp-seed.) THC= Delta-9 TetraHydroCannabinol.

Copyright © 1995-2005 HempWorld, Inc. and Agua Das All Rights Reserved.

 

[SomeGuy]

folks will pay you to take your oil away,

I used to manage a restaurant (10 yrs ago) and a company came by for our used oil and mailed us a check for the stuff. Wasnt alot of money but they still paid us for it. They provided a tank on site and printed a reciept at pickup. And that was before bio-diesel was a buzzword, I imagine prices have gone up considerably since then.

 

[NOKUY]

I've been researching bio-diesel too for my Backwoods AlasKa homestead. I'd like to use solar, wind, and hydro as supplements as well.

thats a real good deal on that generator "genkisan"!

 

[Pops]

Genki, while I totally agree with using hemp oil in this country for bio-fuel, I hate to burst your bubble about using it for larger grow operations. A 10kw grow op with 1k veg. will take about 5.5 megawatts of power per month. According to your formula, you would have to process about 11,000 gallons of french fryer grease per month. As Someguy has stated, you aren't going to get it free. I managed both restaurants and grocery stores and SOLD the used grease and excess fat from the meat dep't.

If you had to process 11,000 gallons of grease, you wouldn't have time to grow your crops. If you had to use a 30kw generator, you had better be as remote as Nokuy plans to be because that bitch is loud. Nokuy has a small enough(and big enough) generator on the property that he can hide the noise with an insulated bldg, not that he would have too. It would be possible for him to use hemp on a much smaller scale, but not on a 30kw.

Actually, now that I think of it, you would need far more than 11,000 gals. because not all of it transform into biofuel.

 

[genkisan]

The 30Kw was overkill, I admit....

But if you have access to the grease, and you wanna hide 3-8Kw, it might be one way to do it.......

 

[Yummybud]

haha 11,000 gallons of grease. now that's a shit load of grease. Might as well invade an oil rich country to power the generator.

I was thinking about doing a biodiesel car project but I did some research and getting teh grease to power it is a lot of work, a lot of people mentioned that a lot of restauarants etc won't give you the grease because they sell it to a company.

also when you get dirty grease it requires work to filter it and get the water out of it before you can use it so that is time consuming as well especially with huge quantities.

 

[Yummybud]

wouldn't 11,000 gallons of grease cost like 10 grand at least?

 

[marx2k]

Dont try running a digital ballast on a generator

 

[eatlikekings]

haha 11,000 gallons of grease. now that's a shit load of grease. Might as well invade an oil rich country to power the generator.

I was thinking about doing a biodiesel car project but I did some research and getting teh grease to power it is a lot of work, a lot of people mentioned that a lot of restauarants etc won't give you the grease because they sell it to a company.

also when you get dirty grease it requires work to filter it and get the water out of it before you can use it so that is time consuming as well especially with huge quantities.

my friend does it.. with his diesel mercedes

 

[NserUame]

It's not that hard to get cars to run off of ethanol (well 85%, you can do more with more modifications), I wouldn't imagine it'd be that hard to convert a generator to run off of it. You can distill the ethanol yourself for fairly cheap, last I checked if you bought in bulk you could produce a gallon of high proof alchol for around $.90-$1.30.

It'd still be costly, but about 1/3 the cost of straight up gasoline.

 

[DogBoy]

The other issue is the smell. It's pretty strong if you use food grade oils and grease. I think the smell of fat permeating through the forest and for 1/2 mile downwind might be a little bit of a give away.

It's also worth noting that in many places being eco friendly will get you a charge of tax evasion. You cant avoid the duty on fuel. The government gets all scared. Many tried this in the UK over the last few years and many got hit with tax evasion charges.

 

[marx2k]

I think the smell of fat permeating through the forest and for 1/2 mile downwind might be a little bit of a give away.

It might also bring some hungry animals to your door