Solar power

[Guest]

This is a question for those of you who may know better than me... as i don't get it

I keep reading story after story about people either getting busted and caught for stealing electric, or just getting busted because the use too much and the authorities get suspicious

I saw generators mentioned... but I'm assuming they use alot of gas, which requires delivery, and could end up being just as "suspicious"

but what about Solar Power?

I mean... isn't only like 10 grand to rig up your own Solar Power, so you don't even have to go through the electric company? Seems liek a wise investment, that would leave little to no way for anyone to know what your using

someone tell me i'm wrong

peace to you all

bILLy tHe BudMaN

 

[badmf]

Hey Bro, LOL, there always has been Solar, jes put it outside in the Sun!! No equipment needed. Why waste $$ and time converting it, use a frosted glass to limit visibility and voila!!

 

[Guest]

hahah

i meant... solar panels... for electric

ofcourse outdoor growin uses solar power but c'mon now

my literalness should have come with a warning label!

peace to you regardless


bILLy wit a 'Y'

 

[Guest]

Solar is more expensive than you think.

For example, in New York State they'll rebate $4 of every watt of power. Then you'll get a tax exemption of about $1.25 a watt. But the installation will cost about $12 a watt leaving you paying $6.75 a watt.

So a 5 kilowatt system will initially cost $60,000. The rebate will be $20,000. The tax break will be $6250. That leaves you out of pocket $33,750. And a 5kw system won't product 5kw all the time. You only get about 1/4 utilization so you could only cover about 2 kilowatt of flowering wattage plus some veg lighting and fans, etc.

One last thing to consider is that it takes about 6 months to get an installation completed. This includes inspections by the state and the electricity company.

 

[Guest]

wait... wookie bro...

you are obviously an expert..

so.. yer sayin the government charges yer ass/inspects your usage?

wtf... that is lame

i'm sayin, couldn't you just rig up some system that is 100% yours, and the gov can't fuck wit ya?

i mean... if you had a waterfall on yer property... build one of them smurf-wheels and go hydro electric..

or one of them pillars with a fan on top... and get your power from the wind

i mean... unless i understood you wrong..i would think theres gotta be some way where you make some large initial investmnet, and then that shit pays for itself eventually (minus maintenance charges, that you obviously learn how to do yourself)

and then boom.... aint no one knows what yer doin

i will ook into this more

peace

bILL

 

[badboyg]

hey its all POSSIABLE only you need the proper enviroment(s) for each to work,, if you have a GOOD FALLING water source you can go mico terbin (sp),, and such,,, but most who use solar or RENEWABLE power,, are far enough out to use the sun, (most likely)..

the problem is you taking sun, making DC current,, then turning it to AC power,, then AGAIN making it into high amp AC to simulate the SUN,, OUCH you loose soo much in that,,

now IF your a real mcgiver (sp) you may make some collectors and get by with a steam genny or some other BUT you still loose in all the transitions...


BILLY WoNKA.. no inspections for use,, its just like adding a room and a hottub,, the local gov will want to aprove and inspect,, and as your getting rebates (per the senario above) you must be certified its installed and leagal for the $$$ back...

now IF you had LOTS of $$ TO INVEST you may get a point 5 -6years out that your SALES profit pays you back,, but now your going big $$ and selling,, so would you invest that much $$$ just to loose it.....

but its getting closer, WHEN they get LED's to work well THAT will be the shit,, FOR REAL !!!!!!

good question,, if more peps kept looking OUTSIDE the box we may pull our colective asses out of the fire,,,,,

 

[Guest]

also guy's there is the fact that solar panels are only 15% efficient so on a day with 1,200 W/m2 (normal summer day at noon) you would only get 180-watts per square meter of solar panels, the reason is solar panels only use's the infrared spectrum so all the other spectrums are not absorbed and just lost as heat, but people are working on new solar panel technology that will be up-to 80% efficient and will work by having layers of crystals that absorb every color of the spectrum.

 

[stealthballer]

why can't you put the solar panel in the grow room and use the lights to power it?

sorry that made me laugh to picture someone trying to do that

 

[badboyg]

^^^ SHIT now you'll have some newbe trying it,,,,, LOL """"

 

[Guest]

http://home.altenergystore.com/

SOLAR PANELS

WIND TURBINES

and my favorite

COMPOST TOILETS

 

[Guest]

ahahahahahaha@compst toilets

i have used one of them! grossed me the fuck out... only to piss in... and i could barely do it

and i love urinating outside... i even shit outside and enjoy it

but them white-space lookin toilets.... filled with compost..... its just very very unappealing

one or the other... but not both

 

[Guest]

they may have a bad odor but at-least you don't waste water and after a few months you will have some good compost for your plants.

 

[Tripco]

Solar (electricity) panels makes sense if you're livin' in area where winters are very sunny.
I read some article, like 3 years ago, that small biomass combustion chambers with steam turbine and electricity generators will be on the market within few years. It's like homebased biomass facility. I don't know if they're aviliable right now, but i think, the place to look for it should be some company from US Northwest.

 

[Chuckleberry]

I have seen several houses outfitted with wind turbine generators.

Think the cost was close to 100k for installation and parts.

For the $ in the long run may be a good investment, but my budget wouldnt allow for such a luxury.

 

[razer]

I'm working on a self-contained power supply that will run a 2k setup I have a earlier model that plugs in but only uses 1 amp its like using a 100 watt light bulb

Anyway good luck on your research

Be safe

 

[Verite]

Keep the ideas alive.. so when the technology catches up in a decade or two you can still have them. For now solar and battery technology isnt going to be enough to run anything close to a 2K grow.

 

[pgtekin]

Solar is more expensive than you think.

For example, in New York State they'll rebate $4 of every watt of power. Then you'll get a tax exemption of about $1.25 a watt. But the installation will cost about $12 a watt leaving you paying $6.75 a watt.

So a 5 kilowatt system will initially cost $60,000. The rebate will be $20,000. The tax break will be $6250. That leaves you out of pocket $33,750. And a 5kw system won't product 5kw all the time. You only get about 1/4 utilization so you could only cover about 2 kilowatt of flowering wattage plus some veg lighting and fans, etc.

One last thing to consider is that it takes about 6 months to get an installation completed. This includes inspections by the state and the electricity company.

Currently Solar panel price is dropping so quickly, Chinese export whole sale price is USD$4 or blow per watt. So if you wantto build 5 kw, you just need pay $20K for solar panels, however you still DC to DC charger, Ele controller,
DC/AC inventer etc. The $4 cost is super comapnies' OEM price such as GE, WestHouse etc. And you must consider about shipping fee, custom cleanance fee and carrier fee etc. Per watt's price should be up to $6~$7.
For 2000W DC/AC inventer (SINE wave), the price at Chinese port is around $500. But when it arrive to States, should be to $1500~2000 in ele-shop.
Even you get all with cheap price, you need some Electrical Engineers help, otherwise, the system can't be setup.
For inspections, I don't think you need. The solar system is a close loop circuit. It doesn't link with public power network. The solar power is just like this:
sun->DC charger->battery group(store)->DC/AC inventer->your home AC circuit. Same as submarine's power system. Of course, when you use solar power, you need hook off the public power network by some smart power switchers. Theorically, you can setup a solar system. But, if you are not an electrical expert, I suggest you should give up. The system is complex.
On other hand, maybe you can try some solar water heater system to save your heating fee.
However, Solar power system or Solar water heater both are easily tag to tell cops this house is very special.

Hope I can help you.

 

[firsttimegrower]

also if you get the system set up right and are in areas where the cost of electricity is very expensive you can sell what ever extra electricity back to the grid. i read that if you live in the northeast us the lower sun availablity is outweighed by the ridiculously expensive cost of electricity and you could feasibly get rid your entire electric bill. now i dont know the cost of the install but the product actually replaces you existing roofing with solar shingles the cost of install was i think between 10 and 20x the cost of typical roof install between which is between 5 and 10 grand.

 

[Habibi]

He isnt the first with the idea they actually had an article about a group who grows medical herb up north in california. they purchased a huge piece of property were growing outside and setting up what used to be a barn to produce indoor buds with solar electricity. if you want i can scan the pages from high times and post them up here

 

[somekind]

The man will do anything to keep it away fr0m you