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Solanum smoke report

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good daytime smoke that has a strong sativa in it with an indica that creeps up as the high continues on. The quality of the nugs was very high, lots of frost, high calyx to leaf ratio, great smell, strong flavor.

High was quick to come on with a mild sativa buzz, but that builds up over the next five minutes to a stronger sat but it doesnt really cause a soaring euphoric feeling. after about 30 minutes the indica part kicks in, smoke enough of it and you can get lost in your living room. Doesnt have enough indica to put me to sleep, but if i had to take a nap i could sleep after smoking it, meaning the sativa isnt too overpowering. It is might make people forget too much to be used to daytime smoke, but I have a slightly higher tolerance than most and this fits the bill well for me.

Smell is fantastic, very strong pungent odor, smells like sweet nightmare and pineapple diesel mixed together. I like the strong spicey pineapple in it, but it isnt so strong that it smells too sweet. The spice is very strong and reminds of a hazy c99.

the taste is very much like the smell but it doesnt carry over too much of the fruit component. Reminds me much of lambsbread and sweetnightmare in the flavor department, musky and strong, very heavy smoke. The smoke is thick and sticks to you for a while. The smell of the smoke is a lot like blue dream.

The texture of this bud was great, large nugs with lots of calyx, the way i like it. Could of had some fan leaves removed but they were so frosty you could break em up and id rather smoke that then half the stuff in some other dispensaries mid grade product line.
 
Variety/Cultivar name: Solanum

Breeder: N/A
Lineage if known: N/A
Vendor: Harborside, Oakland, California
Price: $60 1/8th oz

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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. Visual Appeal: 9.8
Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent.
Comment: top notch look to it, looks like it was properly grown, stored and cured. Id give her a ten but she had some fan leaf on my nug, granted it was one large nug for an 1/8th.

2. Visible Trichomes: 9.5
Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered.
Comment: Hard to imagine herb being frostier than this. on the inside, outside and fan leaf stem are covered in frost from stem to tip. large milky white heads with a ton of non glandular trichs too

3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for
a more precise report.
Clear: 15%
Cloudy: 80%
Amber: 5%
Dark: 0%


4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.
Brown:
Green: 5
Gold:
Blue:
Grey:
White: 5 frosty!
Red:
Rust:
Orange: 3 a few orange pistils
Purple: 2 couple spots are purple
Black:


5. Bud density: 6.5
Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are
not in their natural state leave this field blank.
Comment: Perfect, texture is fantastic, breaks up very nice, i liked my chocolate diesel as my favorite texture herb because it invites you to break up more than needed, this stuff is a close second to that, just a touch denser than the chocoD. similar high calyx to leaf ratio too.


6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates a pronounced presence.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [ ] Floral [ ]] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [3] Meat [ ] Petroleum/Fuel [ ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine-sol [ ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [ ] Pineapple [6]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [2] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ]
Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [2] Spice [7]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]


7. Aroma: 9.5
Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled bud for best results.
Comment: Amazingly strong stink, smells very spicey and has a strong rotten tropical pineapple smell but isnt overly sweet at all and doesnt have any floral component to it which makes it stand out from all the other spicey fruity ones. Smells like the sweet funk of sweet nightmare crossed with the musk of lambsbread and the fruity sweetness from pineapple D all rolled into one, hard to not like this one.

8. Seed content: 0
Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.


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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.


1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information below that will identify the instrument as follows:
Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc): PHX bong
Vaporizer (enter the brand name):
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass):
Joint (enter brand of papers):
Other (specify):


2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one indicates a subtle presence and a
nine indicates a very pronounced presence.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [2] Licorice [ ]
Berry [] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [2] Meat [ ] Petroleum/fuel [ ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [ Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [2]] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ]
Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [2]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]


3. Taste: 7
Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.
Comment: tastes a lot like sweet nightmare, the smell of the smoke is very strong and fills the room up quickly like sweet nightmare and similar to blue dream. Smells very smiliar to the bud but the musky component is much stronger on the exhale.

4. State of dryness: 5
Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.


5. smoke ability: 7
Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.
Comment:


6. Smoke expansion: 3
Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.
Comment:


1. __[4 hits / .4g max ]__ Dosage
Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.
Comment: sativa comes on quick and the indica comes on a bit later, 3 bowls if ya smoke them faster, 4 if its over half an hour or more.

2. __[6]__ Effect onset
Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.

3. __[7.5]__ Sativa influence
Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa
influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.


4. __[2]__ Indica influence
Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica
influence is best described as a sedative, lethargic or numbing
effect that affects the body.


5. __[7.5]__ Potency
Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.


6. __[one hour]__ Duration
Indicate the duration of time that the effects lasted.


7. __[7]__ Tolerance build up
Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this
field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.


8. Usability
Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day
to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.

Morning - wake up [6]
Day - work [7]
Evening - relax [ ]
Night - sleep


9. __[7.5]__ Overall satisfaction
Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.


10. __[9]__ Ability and conditions
Comment:

11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use?

Yes [X]
No [ ]


12.Rate the noticable effects on a scale of 1-9 mild-severe.

Negative Positive
Effect Effect

__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Appetite
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Anxiety relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Paranoia relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sex drive
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sleep
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pain relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Ability to rest or sit still
__[4]__ __[ ]__ Thought process
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Speech process
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Imagination/creativity
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Humor perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Visual perception
__[ ]__ __[4]__ Audio perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Taste perception



FINAL COMMENTS:

good daytime smoke that has a strong sativa in it with an indica that creeps up as the high continues on. The quality of the nugs was very high, lots of frost, high calyx to leaf ratio, great smell, strong flavor.

High was quick to come on with a mild sativa buzz, but that builds up over the next five minutes to a stronger sat but it doesnt really cause a soaring euphoric feeling. after about 30 minutes the indica part kicks in, smoke enough of it and you can get lost in your living room. Doesnt have enough indica to put me to sleep, but if i had to take a nap i could sleep after smoking it, meaning the sativa isnt too overpowering. It is might make people forget too much to be used to daytime smoke, but I have a slightly higher tolerance than most and this fits the bill well for me.

Smell is fantastic, very strong pungent odor, smells like sweet nightmare and pineapple diesel mixed together. I like the strong spicey pineapple in it, but it isnt so strong that it smells too sweet. The spice is very strong and reminds of a hazy c99.

the taste is very much like the smell but it doesnt carry over too much of the fruit component. Reminds me much of lambsbread and sweetnightmare in the flavor department, musky and strong, very heavy smoke. The smoke is thick and sticks to you for a while. The smell of the smoke is a lot like blue dream.

The texture of this bud was great, large nugs with lots of calyx, the way i like it. Could of had some fan leaves removed but they were so frosty you could break em up and id rather smoke that then half the stuff in some other dispensaries mid grade product line.
 

Warrior

Member
Nice report. I was actually thinking of making the 400 mile trip to get this because someone else said the high on this was bordering on psychedelic. Guess it was just him.

Could you recommend a dispensary med with trippy properties? I love strains that have the intense, throbbing head high coupled with wavy, hazy visuals-great for my depression since it makes me focus on something else besides my problems. Something like a strong Amsterdam haze. Most of the sativas I purchased from a med club are mild in comparison and too clear with no visuals. I'm south of L.A., but am willing to drive as far as the Bay Area to get a great, trippy sativa.
 
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I read the same report as you i believe. This is the reason I purchased it, the budtender didnt even recommend it, but I said what the heck ill give it a try. It aint bad, the first time i smoked it i felt that I was going to white out for a second, but that was because I got up too fast after smoking I believe.

I doubt you will find something at a dispensary that has those qualities, most are looking to sell stuff that tastes good and has a short duration high to keep ya coming back. Look into some asian genetics if ya can, or even a malawi might fit the bill for you, gonna be tough to find that at a dispensary without trading your first born for it.

if i find it first, i will share it with you. good luck in your searches my friend

-stb
 
G

Guest

Nice!

Hey Sauron, you are one of only a few who I know that have smoked the sweet nightmare. I know it goes out at a few clubs in SF. Anyways I have a cut of it that ive been running for a few. I cant wait to make crosses of it, i cant get the girl to throw a banana! I figure her to be close to a landrace , maybe one cross off of it. If i didnt smoke, and I walked into the room after the SN was smoked damn I sure would after , i wish there was an incense with that smell! :joint:
 
Yeah the sweet nightmare is a good indica smoke, ive seen it coming out of the bay for years, though im fairly sure it isnt from landrace cultivar, i would say its a fairly well worked hybrid. agree with you 100% about the smell, fantastic taste and aroma come with this strain quite often.

glad you have a cutting of it to keep her in circulation, keep up the good work brother, and as always stay safe!
-stb
 
G

Guest

Nightmare = Indica? Have you grown one out yet? Because I know that Nigerian Nightmare is Sativa/Indica: 50/50, but thats from Reeferman. This one i believe has been crossed. Either way a very nice smoke.. but wait.. this is SN's smoke report! haha sorry for the hijack!


Sauron The Blue said:
Yeah the sweet nightmare is a good indica smoke, ive seen it coming out of the bay for years, though im fairly sure it isnt from landrace cultivar, i would say its a fairly well worked hybrid. agree with you 100% about the smell, fantastic taste and aroma come with this strain quite often.

glad you have a cutting of it to keep her in circulation, keep up the good work brother, and as always stay safe!
-stb
 
i have a few jars from the 3rd floor from years ago, two say indica in blue down the sides of the jar, i do remember seeing one that said hybrid though. The bud is not typical indica or sativa looking, it had more of a look like the solanum does, but it was a bit lighter and easier to break down, from every source ive seen it from at least.

I wonder if the nigerian in rm's is the sat? if it is 50/50 and the nightmare is sat, then the nigerian must be the indica i would believe? I just have a hard time seeing the clubs selling a near landrace sativa grown out perfectly as one mentioned for $50 8th and their other higher yielding sats for even more? I understand they charge as they pay, but i cant see a grower selling an 11wk strain for as low as a 8 week strain goes either.

No hijack at all bro, im all about gettin the real deal and if its not the real deal i want to know, check the bull rider thread, some folks disagree but i always say its a sample from a disp and im an honest guy i just buy it tell ya where its at and give an honest review of it imo, and sometimes i include another persons smoke report along with it if possible - but most often i find the vast majority of smokers have similiar experiences with the strains i review.

have a good one and stay safe!
-stb
 
G

Guest

Ah the 3rd floor Mecca! plenty of great cuts and nugs came from there!
Thanks for the info bro! you ever try J27?

Ok here's a few pics, does your SN look like this dry nug?
This is the SN

and then here is the descriptions for both the Nigerian Nightmare and the Regular Nightmare.

I know that this one will vary a bit depending on the grower and nutes etc.

The SN takes about 60-70 days

Nigerian Nightmare

Awesome early outdoor plants with super frost production, nice chunky nugs with some strong dry skunky aromas with mango carrot and manderin orange undertones. A crowd pleaser with a happy euphoric high. Good mold resistance. Compact plants,very photoperiod sensitive. If vegged under 18 or 24 hours from seed or clone they can be put outside and will start flowering quickly.. We recommend veg in at least 1 gallon pots to about 3 feet or more tall if starting indoors. Multiple crop potential outdoors in the summer.

Inside Finish Time: 8 weeks / Outside Finish Time: late September / Variation: 3.5 / Odor Level: 3 / Mold Resistance: 5 / Yield: 4.5 / Ease of Growth: 5 / Feed Level: 4.5 / Stretch: 2.25x Sativa/Indica: 50/50 climates.


Nightmare

Nigerian: The father of Nightmare , Nigerian has earthy aromas of carrot and mango and a slightly racy, exciting sativa high . A good choice to freshen up tired indica strains. 10- 12 weeks indoor, mid-late September outdoors.


 
that looks very similar to it, i always bought quarters of it and they would come with two nugs often that were about that size in that pic, but that looks a little bit denser and the calyx on the sweet nightmare were larger.

i found this on here too:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=63720

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and a lil more digging yielded what i had purchased years back:
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pic by cheebahawk
http://www.always420forum.com/forum/about88.html
that looks identical to it spot on, and later down the thread one posts a report of it.

I have seen a few people call it weak, and i know a lot of people feel sweet tooth to be lower potency than many current elites. who knows?

thanks for adding more info to the pot, much appreciated my friend!
-stb
 
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G

Guest

STB I like your style bro! i think we are on the same path regarding our opinions on strains. I agree the SN is no heavy hitter for me, i called it chick smoke! haha.. but just because its so smooth and tasty!

Have you tried the lemon WW that has been circ the clubs for last few years?

Not a producer but that taste is very nice!!
 

bergerbuddy

Canna Coco grower
Veteran
Hi Guys.. Hey Ushie!!

Here are a couple of pix of Nigerean Nightmare from Reeferman being grown outside...

I have 4 outside.. One started budding REAL early.. like the end of July... all three were in bud by the middle of Aug...

Here they are..



 
G

Guest

What up bB, very interested to hear the smoke and grow on reefermans nigerian! so many to try!
 

Fat Albert

Active member
Hi Sauron,

I purchased some Solanum at C.A.R.E. (by the Oakland PD). It had a very pleasing high and bag appeal, but the aroma drove me absolutely wild! There was a terrific spiciness (frankincense-like) mixed with a decent dose of dried tropical fruit.

Great smoke report...

Cheers!
Fat A :wave:
 
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