So how can we defeat the NSA?

[MrDanky]

With all of the talk of the NSA's possibilies to track anyone, can anyone think of ideas to bring them to their knees?

There is lots of money to be made in this industry that is sure to emerge.

The telecommunications privacy industry....


yeah sure i can buy a motorola dynaTAC and hope it still works....

or start buying up used laptops off ebay and only logging on using unsecured wifi at any local establishment, but there HAS to be a way to end the madness........

the new iphones are equipped with fingerprint scanners for crying out fucking loud!!!!!!!!!!!! and people think its the greatest thing since sliced bread!!!

and with facebook announcing that they will now be implementing facial recognition programs?!?!? yeah i know it has probably already been around, but they just publically announced that they will be doing it....

this is some dangerous stuff my friends!!! considering all of the highly classified NSA leaks that have emerged in the past few months.....

SOMETHING MUST BE DONE TO CIRCUMVENT THIS YET STILL HAVE PERSONAL FREEDOM WITHOUT LIVING IN FEAR EVEN IF YOU ARE THE TYPE WHO CLAIMS TO NOT EVER DO ANYTHING WRONG SO YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!!!!




All words appreciated.... negative and positive alike... i would like to see how you people think....

 

[hayday]

The only way to fight this is to ...

no cell
no I.D.
no discount card
no debit-credit card
no corporate intities

Basicly one would have to go full on ghost.

Are you ready for that?I'd like to think I could pull it off but I can't.

I need a car
I need groceries
I need electricity and water.
All these are vital to my life.I'm fucking kept by the machine and they know it.

These are both short lists by the way

 

[wantaknow]

zxx download will be a good start

 

[soil margin]

Here's how I fight the NSA, not sure I'm defeating them:

no smartphone (1 month max. use burner phones or nothing)
no credit/debit cards (buy and sell everything with cash)
no facebook/social media
don't use real name/addresses
don't post pictures online

I'm not saying it's impossible to track me, but it sure as hell is probably more trouble than it's worth, and that's really the first step imho.

 

[BadTicket]

Now they won't just take your phone, they might cut off your finger too. Way to go improving security there apple.

 

[resinryder]

Can you defeat them? Yeah but are you ready to do so?
How you ask? Vote in a third party with the total understanding that in return for your vote to put them into office you are demanding an end to unconstitutional spying of every American citizen in any form it may take. But then again, if you support you local rep or dem and love the flavor of their particular brand of koolaid, it will never happen. Way too many citizens could give a shit about it tho. When you voluntarily place a blue or red bull ring in your nose it's easy for the ones that control the leash to lead you any way they want to take you.

 

[MrDanky]

the people who live totally off the grid are the only ones who are truly free.... that font idea is cool wantaknow but what about texts and phone convos and everyday activity on computers and phones with cameras, gps, and speaker phone capabilities? still lots to be done

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

i am gonna go with we can beat them with "vulgar conversation" just make all your phone calls about bowl movements; color, size, frequency, and huge greasy pimples, and stuff you ate off the ground. you know shit like that. eventually they will get dehydrated from puking from listening to fat Americans talk about how they just burned their ass hole with Chipotle, and hopefully die.....

 

[supermanlives]

the thing about facial recognition and fingerprint stuff is it guarantees you are the one using the phone. cant say it was stolen and used ect. sort of seals your fate IMHO. I say everyone ttype and say all the key words nsa looks for. overload em with too much info. I will start. guns ,bombs ,drugs , fuck obummer,fuck the nsa , lol

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

So how can we defeat the NSA?



not being so afraid of them would be a good start IMHO.

if i was trying to be pablo fucking escobar i would worry a little more but think about how long it took our government to catch up with him. our government can't manage to find there own asses with both hands and a flashlight folks. being actively afraid of them is giving them credit they don't deserve.

 

[MrDanky]

Eights-n-Aces its not about being afraid of them, its about where it can lead to.... one day everything can possibly be monitored and charges can ensue.... ever see demolition man? whether you have or have not, there is a concept in the movie (which is based on the future) where one is fined if they ever use a vulgar/swear word..... now with everything coming to light with the NSA, who is to say that one day things might not lead to that? ....and please dont get me wrong, there are MANY MANY more possibilities of the shittiness that can come from a rogue agency having "god-like" all knowing abilities.....


and superman, i was wondering if there is a way to counteract the fingerprint scanning... like wipe your ball sack along the fingerprint scanner instead of swiping your thumb.... i do not trust the new iphone at all...imagine if (and when) it becomes industry standard and government mandated that all cellphones require fingerprint scanning?? i think i would feel safer buying a Huawei phone and letting china get all of my information (even tho yes i know i would still be going through american networks).......speaking of Huawei, check out their newest phone... it rivals the iphone from what ive heard... huawei ascend p2

What i think it is going to come down to is there is going to be privately owned companies that unleash wifi satellites in the sky that control everything privately.... of course the owners of these companies would most likely have to hire their own armies to ward off the rogue US criminal gov who would try to gain access to their info, or even destroy their satellites, but still.... something has to give......

life just cannot go on without privacy and that is the bottom line............

 

[Snype]

You can defeat the NSA by not talking about them on ICMAG.

 

[MrDanky]

You can defeat the NSA by not talking about them on ICMAG.

oh yeah? explain?

please enlighten me.

I have been looking for enlightenment....

 

[Snype]

oh yeah? explain?

please enlighten me.

I have been looking for enlightenment....

Focus more on growing meds instead of the NSA and you will be all good.

 

[Dream Time]

Stop patronizing companies that have colluded with the NSA (Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Yahoo, etc.). Those companies have enough money to to buy whatever legislation they want including an end to domestic spying, but why should they if we are too lazy or indifferent to cause them any financial discomfort?

 

[BurnOne]

Start with $500,000,000.00 to get lobbyists to plead your case. Then get another $500,000,000.00 to hire the engineers and scientists working for the government to come over to your side and work for you.
Don't have that much money? It's always about the money.
And I might add, you haven't see anything yet.
Burn1

 

[MrDanky]

Start with $500,000,000.00 to get lobbyists to plead your case. Then get another $500,000,000.00 to hire the engineers and scientists working for the government to come over to your side and work for you.
Don't have that much money? It's always about the money.
And I might add, you haven't see anything yet.
Burn1

oh there ARE guys with big money out there who are working on ways to take the NSA down............


i say they start by going after the NSA nerds themselves..... they would be such easy targets to plink off

 

[MrDanky]

New app brings NSA-proof messaging to Android


....welll theres a start



emerging industry?

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^The NSA has backdoors built straight into all computer hardware and software. there is no nsa proof anything. just be a good person, and be non-violent. You will be fine.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Eights-n-Aces its not about being afraid of them, its about where it can lead to.... one day everything can possibly be monitored and charges can ensue.... ever see demolition man? whether you have or have not, there is a concept in the movie (which is based on the future) where one is fined if they ever use a vulgar/swear word..... now with everything coming to light with the NSA, who is to say that one day things might not lead to that? ....and please dont get me wrong, there are MANY MANY more possibilities of the shittiness that can come from a rogue agency having "god-like" all knowing abilities.....

thank you for the deep thought! and please don't get me wrong BUT you should stay away from the movie theatre.

FWIW the east germans were said to be the most oppressive government out there for a long time and one of the reasons was because of the amount of information they gathered on there own people. they didn't have computers, or for the most part cars and phones so they used the people against each other to pick up all the information they needed ......... the point being that technology might make keeping track of everything easier, but it is not the only way to get things done

anyone who thinks that they have not been gathering all the information they can in any way they can for a very long time is being willingly blind about the whole situation ......... and /or just placing the blame on the present retard in charge and actually believing that the next retard is going to be better somehow

america is being brought to it's knees because people spend their time trying to prove that blue raspberry kool aid is better than red raspberry kool aid (or vice versa) and the whole time we are all drowning in generic raspberry flavored horse shit

but that is not the fucking NSA's fault either

1984 is not that far into the future if we don't do something really soon. and ya know what? we won't