caterpillar710
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Just grow in the native man look at your numbers you're sitting on gold
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Slownickel lounge, pull up a chair. CEC interpretation
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plantingplants
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Your bed soil cec saturation using aa8.2 Ca:
Ca: 62.8%
Mg: 26.4%
K: 9.5%
Na: 1.3%
Native:
Ca: 71%
Mg: 17.3%
K: 11.1%
Na: 0.6%
And your native has a 1:3 fe:mn ratio!
Ca: 62.8%
Mg: 26.4%
K: 9.5%
Na: 1.3%
Native:
Ca: 71%
Mg: 17.3%
K: 11.1%
Na: 0.6%
And your native has a 1:3 fe:mn ratio!
led05
Chasing The Present
Couldn't agree more, just looked and thought, damn that native is great, just roll with it !!
led05
Chasing The Present
You have near perfect Native soil (as good as anyone could expect) and if I recall you're water was like what, 42 TDS - where are you --- Lucky Dog !!!
led05
Chasing The Present
haha.... ok Aristotle - or are you just in West Maui? Heaven on earth
"Lassen's Shadow" lol...western slope of the Sierra-Cascade interface, pretty good spot overall.
I must suck at growing because I haven't gotten the yields I'd like to see from this soil...
Thanks for the positivity.
plantingplants
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Is the native test literally from under your beds or is it virgin soil scooped nearby? Theyll be different..
It's unworked soil from quite nearby.
plantingplants
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Ill take 40 yards. 
What kinda soil is it?
What kinda soil is it?
led05
Chasing The Present
Dig up about 80 yards of that and send it to me for extensive testing
Ditto, I'll take a semi full to the east coast, for testing...
led05
Chasing The Present
I'm sure you don't suck!
In all seriousness though. Your water is so clean it's likely leeching some of that good you do have in your native and mix and somewhat negating each other at the root zones
Top dressing of Gypsum as Jidoka I think said is a good idea and maybe a couple other dressings annually could help balance out.
Your water is so clean I'd be spiking that as well but that's just me.
Wow! Get a mix and bagging line started!
Unbelievable analysis of native soil.
There is a lot of carbonate in there. Do not add lime by any means.
How loose is this soil? Does it come out in clumps?
What a nice surprise to see how well the native is balanced.
This is Cohasset gravelly loam, which is usually fairly acidic according to the series description.
Nearly pullled the trigger last week on some local lime that's got a fair amount of Mg in it. That looks like it would have been a mistake.
Reviewing Solomon to figure out how to proceed, it looks like a good bit of gypsum is in order. Sulfur's already pretty high, but he says there's only a minimum S number for calcareous-type soils.
On the other hand, he says to limit gypsum applications to 1 ton/ac, which is far too little for my situation. Some guy named Mike Kraidy is quoted there as saying that multiple tons of gypsum per year are sometimes appropriate, so that's where I think I'm headed.
As to the clumpiness: the samples I pulled for the test had a decent crumb to them, but in some areas I've encountered a tendency to form heavy clumps with this soil.
Thanks to those who've chimed in, I appreciate the feedback.
plantingplants
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Lol
You should ask Steve Solomon what he thinks now about my recommendations of multiple tons after having run tests in his yard haha....
slow, do you personally abide by an annual limit on additions of gypsum?
In my case, should I just figure out how much I think I'll need to get the excess cations off and add it all at once?
In my case, should I just figure out how much I think I'll need to get the excess cations off and add it all at once?
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