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sm0kateer4204

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hey guy's. here's my oldest plant started from seed earlier in the year. she was growing great until a month after she went into the ground. the only thing i did differently from this plant's soil was NOT add blood meal, i didnt have it on me at the time and i figured she would be just fine if i fed her a good dose of nutrient's with her watering's. well recently she showed lightly colored lower fan leave's so i started giving her full dose peter's 20-20-20 nutrient's along with a top layering of blood meal on the soil. it doesnt seem to be helping, but all this look's like a nitrogen def to me considering slow growth and lightly colored lower leave's. any help is appreciated.





oh yeah just for reference this plant doesnt get anything beside's the peter's 20-20-20. i dont know the ph and probably never will.
 
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Greetings, Smokateer - Is your plant in the ground, or in a container? Reason I ask is, couple of years ago, I was growing outdoors, and I thought it would be a good idea to dig holes in the ground, fill with my soil mix, and let 'em do their thing. Turns out I didn't dig the holes deep enough to get below the clay layer, so the holes were not draining. I lost 6 nice females to root rot because of that clay layer. A guy on here says you can take a long piece of re-bar (iron rod) and poke holes through the clay, and they will drain.

I learned my lesson the hard way on that one. Now, I dig holes, and put the plant inside in a container w/ a couple of rocks at the bottom so the pot can drain. Those yellow leaves look like they could be suffering from overwater, that's why I ask.

Good luck. Peace.
 

sm0kateer4204

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that make's very good sense now that i consider it. my area has alot of clay in the native soil. i wonder if the clay is acting like a bowl and holding water? it's the only plant of mine showing the effect, i think i should give this a try and poke deep holes in the ground after a rainy day. thanks man.
 
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you can feed all you want but it looks like a sunnier area would help. when theres no light the plant cant photosynthesize

i would have just top-dressed with composted manure, b/c the plant looks otherwise healthy. no need to overdo-N

could be something else, just my observations:2cents:

take care
 
The more I look at that yellow leaf, and the way you got 'em in those holes, the more convinced I am that you're having the same trouble I had. If you're giving that one the same nutes, etc. as the others in your pics, then that's most likely the issue. You just got lucky with the others. Mine started looking yellow like that within 24 hours of a good rain, and they never recovered. I thought I had a nitrogen def, and tried feeding, etc. All the while, I was drowing my girls. As a matter-of-fact; I even used the same description as you did when you said the clay acts like a "bowl".

I'd try to dig her up, and get her into a container w/a bunch of perlite in the mix, so she can dry out a little.

Good luck.
 

B.C.

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hhhmmmm...

hhhmmmm...

Hey Smok, you have to be carefull using bloodmeal, it will change your ph in a real hurry.It should be added to the soil weeks ahead of planting so the ph can stabilize it self.I would suggest mushroom compost (wally world has it for $3.17 a bag !) or garden/manure compost.As a matter of fact,if you put enough compost in your holes at planting and a little bonemeal,you shouldn't have to feed at all... compost;it's a gardeners best friend. Best of luck to ya,take care... BC btw if you need a boost of N you can always use pee at a 10:1 ratio, 10 parts water to 1 part pee.
 

sm0kateer4204

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mushroom compost eh? do you know the number's on that one? i thought about getting a bag of domolite lime to balance out the ph. thanks for stopping by man.
 

sproutco

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90% of nutrient problems are ph related. you should adjust your ph to 5.8 to 6.5 by adding dolomite lime if it is too acid and you are growing in the ground. this supplies calcium and magnesium. peters 20-20-20 contains alot of ammonia/urea and is not desirable. it also contains .05% zinc and copper which is alot. Try to find a higher nitrate nitrogen fertilizer (at least 50%) for future fertilizing.
 

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