amoS said:Hi ,I have some seeds that I got while in Amsterdam and they are called sweet and sour from Coveted Seeds........could these be the same strain that you said was a cross that you made SSB? And for all the people that says Somas NYCD has No Diesel in it read page 77 of his Soma Style book and it list Sour Diesel that he acquired in 1997 and used it in breeding.........hmmmm.............and on page 78 Soma (the shaded block) Soma clearly states that he used the Sour Diesel seeds in a cross with his Afghani-Hawaiian male and the NYCD was born.............so I have to question why people keep saying that there is NO Diesel in NYCD................Peace
Sideshow-Bob said:Hi Soma
Nope you don't have any sweet&sour seeds from me, i never sold them...
As for people claiming there's no diesel in the nyc diesel... you won't find any post of mine where i'm stating this, also nobody has written anything about this in my thread... cause if somebody had claimed that, i would have disagreed I'm quite sure there's diesel in nyc diesel, i had a very fuelish pheno of it (which i didn't like btw) - and have noticed diesel traits in the smell and the growthpattern of nyc diesel offspring...
f.e. look in my thread on nyc diesel here on icmag, i'm even sayin that the nyc diesel.AT pheno (which comes directly from you, Soma, from what i've heard) reminds me of sour D. http://icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1081871&postcount=1 , but the sour D of which it reminded me of were the samples from amsterdam i've tried... sour D from amnesia coffeeshop and the sd ibl from the rokerij - which were both more sweet than sour...
After growing out the sour D pheno of my strawberry diesel f2s i know what is meant by sour - and nyc diesel is not sour!!!
and also a nice young guy on the counter of a little coffeeshop in amsterdam (the noon) , who was very proud of his diesel :smile: (which was the best grapefruit tasting diesel i ever smoked - better than every nycd i've grown myself ) told me he got a cutting from USA called original diesel which is the diesel from which nyc diesel originated - and that makes way more sense imho... also i've found lot of other growers post they think that your sour diesel bagseed infact was a original diesel bagseed - which undermines my opinion
The only negative things you will find me say about nyc diesel are that the high is mediocre, the strain is unstable and the seeds are way overpriced (you crossed a bagseed with a male you got from shanti and are charging 150 $ for the seeds - )
as for the high of nycd being strong, what about the nyc diesel pheno sold in austarian growshops? it is said to be selected from you, Soma, yourself... it is one of the strongest of the nycds i have had, but still the high is not strong and tollerance is building up rather quick. (i'm just calling it as i see it... and for me the stone of nyc diesel is weak... smoke some of your amnesia haze - that's one of the strongest strains i know - and you'll understand why imho nyc diesel has a weak high... ) here's a pic of that pheno for you:
Amnesia haze (this one actually does not have a weak high at all)
What you, Soma, are stating in your books... i don't care - i won't buy your book - as i have not bought and will not buy seeds from you... not that i don't like your strains, i love nyc diesel and amnesia haze and soon have a free tibet which i like as well - but i will never pay that much money for unstable seeds that won't germ if i'm not having luck... :wink:
last, why do you come to my thread with a 2nd nickname, and talk about me saying in nyc diesel is no diesel? and don't tell me you're not Soma amoS - same nick just switched - same style of writing...
greetings
amoS said:Hi SSB ,I can assure you that I am not Soma,and I did not in any way mean to infer that you said there was no diesel in the nycd.... I apologize if I made it sound that way.... I was on the nycd vs sd smoke report thread when I seen those comments (not by you ) thats when I seen your link about the sweet and sour and ended up on this thread so I guess I should have posted these comments on that thread instead of this one....sorry ......but my main reason was trying to find some info on the Coveted Seeds I got in Amsterdam...the package says Sweet and Sour by Coveted Seeds , it doesn't say diesel though just Sweet and Sour, and they must be a new seed company because it says grow Coveted Seeds in 2008, I can't find any info on them even through a google search and was hoping I could run across some info here......looking at your plants I can only say 1 thing...BEAUTIFUL!!! I hope some day I can have results like that! I am still kind of new here and learning my way around so I did not mean to step on any toes...when I can learn to post pics I'll put up some shots of my Amnesia Haze grow and I totally agree with you on your comments on this strain......Peace and Keep it Green !
- ezra - said:excellent thread.
do you notice the JH influence in the Cinnamon a lot? Is it obvious it is a sativa pheno of JH or not in your opinion so far?
cheers, Ez