Sick plants!

[Relentless]

Hey guys, please let me know what you think is going on here..

Giving all details to help diagnose..

Ive been in the moving process for a month or so.. When we got to the new place I had to leave for abt a week or 10 days or so and left a friend in charge..
Right before that we received a clone from a friend that I believe was clean..

Obviously environment and water source changed.. besides that nothing else changed..

Had all the babies in a closet.. It got too hot for a few days and I told him to leave door open/swap in a smaller light and since then the temps have been in the low/mid 80s.. Dont think heat or bleaching is the problem.. im not misting them or keeping light close..

After getting back I found that he had been using tap water that was abt 8-8.3ph.. Obviously thats a problem.. BTW Im checking with my hannah meter and ph water drops everytime to make sure..
Once I found this out i was pretty sure the problem was due to ph being too high ad locking out iron..
Ive since been adjusting the water ph to 6.1-6.3(we are in soil).. ppm is high 200s i believe.. Runoff has been at 5.6-5.8..

Ive been doing this for abt 10 days.. but some of the newer plants that were just planted are showing the same problems..

I was almost positive it was an iron def, and it might be, but it just doesnt seem like that could be it since the newer plants are showing the same symptoms..
I dont think its broad mites or temp/bleaching..
I doubt its something in the soil bc I was using the same bag of soil at the last place with no problems..
Notice the effected areas are in the new growth, not just at the top of the plants either..

obviously u can tell the older plants and newer plants.. i labeled as well on the pics..

What are your thoughts?

edit: no nutes given, just phd water bc fox farm ocean forest soil being hot.. never had this problem.. I just gave a dose of calmg..

Pics are labeled.. the ogs took it the worse.. they are the oldest too..

older og plants:

newer gg4 and white

 

[Relentless]

really seems to be an iron deficiency.. I havent flushed the soil bc I thought with them being small and in fox farm ocean forest they would get burnt up.. maybe I should flush.. thoughts?

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

Just thought I'd chime in to get the thread goin...

I have no idea what's going on! Lol. I know I had a problem kinda similar to yours a long time ago. It ended up being the cups I was using wasn't washed out that well. If you are using new solo cups then you can scratch that being a problem.

I have to agree and say it does look like an Iron deficiency. All I can really suggest, is just flushing really well with a good pH and see what you get. Maybe even throw in some calmag (has Iron in it) on the final part of the flush.

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

They shouldn't get burnt up with a flush. From my understanding, a soil mix actually gets hotter the drier it gets...

 

[Relentless]

ya it really has me stumped.. i thought I had them on the right track after figuring it was a iron deficiency.. the gg4(third pic) was put in the cup like 2 wks ago at most and Im almost positive that was after we got the ph right.. thats why im stumped..

Ive been checking ph constantly.. Ive never had to add calmg or anything to the water this early in veg.. dont think the soil is lacking in iron.. never had been..


if everyone does think i should flush, what do u think i should flush at?? like I said, the tap water is 8+ph, been adjusting to 6.1-6.4(usually 6.2-6.3).. runoff has been 5.6-5.8..


maybe for safe measure I should xplant them into new soil from a diff bag and go get some bottled water/ph it/add some calmg.. Ive heard some bad things abt bottled water though.. thoughts?

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

Never heard of ocean forest soil going bad, but maybe a new bag would help narrow things down. I use FF Happy Frog soil straight outta the bag and have always adjusted my pH to 6.5

Maybe the soil did go bad. Kinda lookin like it's either the soil, or the water you are using. How old is the bag of soil and how were you storing it?

I have always used my tap so I really don't have advice on water, other than try to get RO

 

[Weird]

for some reason I want to say off gassing

the growth looks too healthy otherwise to have a iron deficiency that harsh

 

[sdd420]

for some reason I want to say off gassing

the growth looks too healthy otherwise to have a iron deficiency that harsh

Was there new paint in the closet? Maybe that but looks like ph to me ? Of course I'm strictly hydro. Try repotting with new soil

 

[Relentless]

Im going to xplant and go with distilled water thats phd correctly along with some calmg..


but sdd and weird, you have a good point.. I forgot abt the fresh paint problem.. I believe the new place was painted right before we moved in! wouldnt doubt if they used some cheap interior/exterior paint.. they are in a 2.5x2.5 closet.. with temps getting to mid to sometimes high 80s in the closet I could easily see the paint fn them up..

Ill remove them from the closet.. ive heard of people putting 5gal buckets of water in cloets to help absorb some of the chemicals.. wiping down the walls with bleach.. any other suggestions?

thanks guys! big help!

 

[Relentless]

so they are about the same 5 days later.. ive had them in a box for abt 20hrs a day with a small light and for 4hrs a day they are in open room with a ton of fans and a bigger light.. the growth has stunted i believe.. on the 25th i xplanted them in hopes that would help.. been giving them distilled water phd to 6.3 after nutes.. added a healthy dose of calmg and nutes to get the ppm up.

im still worried abt this toxic paint.. pretty sure its that.. any advice on dealing with the paint??

 

[DJXX]

Sup Relentless... interested to see how you solve it...if they were mine i would move em out of the closet permanently and cut off the ugly...bet with all you have done the new growth will be fine...best of luck figuring it out..DJXX

 

[Relentless]

thx dj. they have been out the closet for a while. prob is the whole house was painted..


anyone deal with this crap?

 

[yortbogey]

yep ... see my PM