sick plant please help!!

[Buck Nasty]

Im not sure if this is posted in the right forum, if not I apologize. Anyways, can anyone tell me what deficiency my plant has? Ive looked around and I cant find anything that really looks like this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Guest]

Welcome to ICmag Buck! Hopefully we can help you out a bit.

Can you tell us as much as possible about your grow? Medium, feeding schedule, type and amount of food, stage of growth, age, lighting......you get the idea. Everything you can think of.

 

[Buck Nasty]

1st grow from bagseed. Started with 7 ended up having 5 males. Then the last two hermied on me, so Im not to excited about them anymore. I cant decide if I want to keep them or not. Seeing how I have some Skunk 1 and Jock Horror growing for a month now.

Anyways, I started them in Miracle Gro soil. Then I found out how a lot of people dont like it, so I decided to switch when transplanting. When I transplanted into 3 gallon containers I used Fertilome Ultimate Potting Mix, with about 25% Perlite then I pretty much winged it on the Blood/Bone Meal mix, Worm Castings, Garden Lime, and Epsom Salt. Oh yeah Guano also. I didnt know about any mix ratio's so I pretty much went off of tips I recieved from the local nursery. I didnt find this site until I had been vegging for about 5 weeks.

They have been flowering for about a month now, I noticed purple branches so Ive been adding epsom salts every 3 or 4 waterings. While this was happening these spots started on a leaf on the top of the plant, then after a while it started spreading to a couple of other leaves through out the plant. They are under a 600w hps thats about 2 ft. away because of heat issues. I usually water every 4 or 5 days with about 3/4 of a gallon of distilled water mixed with Peters Super Bloom added every once in a while in each plant, I havent found any supplements for phosphorous locally yet. Ive read on this site thats pretty important in the flowering stage. I also have a ventilation issue that I havent decided how to cure yet. I havent found a lot of info on where to buy carbon scrubbers and other venting products. But I hope that will be fixed by time Im ready to flower my second grow.

 

[Guest]

So this one showing the probs is a hermie?

winging it with fert amounts would be the prob is my guess...ph is probably out of whack a bit too..

measuring accuratly helps.

People who dont usually measure already have a good feel for the plant and soil they are they are working with but not all can wing it well by feel and i wouldnt recomend it.

My advice would be to transplant into a fresh batch of light soil with minimal fert additions and add ventlation asap.

You can always improve things on your next grow and make this one flower out but dont expect much if she is a bagseed hermie, better to have some known strain to work imo..

Since your already in flower you could either leave it and force her through flowering, transplant, or flush existing soil.

be mindfull of all that epsom salt your adding every 3rd and 4th watering too.
I dont think thats helping.

Are you spraying the leaves with anything just out of curiosity?

If your having probs finding local ferts you might be able to find some online.

Also your carbon scrubber is used for odor control more so than ventilation,(even though it does both) you dont have to wait until getting a carbon scrubber to start venting the grow area is what im getting at.....

Just have a passive intake and atleast an exhaust fan of some sort as an outake instead of nothing at all...i would suggest to get that ventialtion happening as a first priority after sorting out your soil issues..

Post on your progress and let us know how you go.

 

[Buck Nasty]

Nope havent done any spraying yet..I have two plants left and they both get the same of everything..so who knows. But yea I didnt exactly wing it, I had a general idea of how much to put in, If anything I would think its under. I was adding the epsom salt as there were purple stems on the plants and I read on here that it involves an mg defec. Yea now that I think about it I should have just taken the time to measure out my nutes...Im pretty worried about the smell as Ive never been in a grow before so I was wanting to plan ahead and get something done about the smell before it happens.

 

[Kenny Lingus]

Maybe you've just given it a little to much nursing Buck!?!

I'd go for either a wait-and-see as the days after the transplant goes by, or just give the pot a good flush with pH-adjusted watewr (neutral water, 3 times the size of your pot should be sufficient to rinse the soil for excexx nutes. Then you should start off giving a third, to half-strength nutrition.) Those spots look a little like pH-fluctuation but it's too hard to say frrom that one picture.

 

[halfbaked]

I,d say it's over everything. over fed, over epsom salts, over loved. Flush them and then leave them alone for a while. Let em grow, at this point a hermie is better than noting and at least you get the learning experience.
If you have to added organic nutes to the soil it won't be released and gone in one watering. What happens is each time you water the plant uses a little more of the nutes untill 3 or 4 weeks later when you re-fert. I feed my plants every 3 or 4 weeks with great growth and no problems.
Good luck And let us know what happened.

PS: sometimes purple stems is normal to a given strain. So you should check the PH before adding epsom salts or lime or any of that other stuff.

 

[Buck Nasty]

Thanks for the info, hopefully this wont happen the second time!

 

[Guest]

it looks like light burn to me ..

peace

 

[Buck Nasty]

sick plant please help!!

It could be light burn, because I do have some ventilation issues. I keep having to raise the light because the top leaves keep turning upside down. Now the light is about 2' away. I also tried flushing the plant, so maybe that might work. It seems to be getting worse. I wanted to try hydro next but I dont know if that would be a good idea.

 

[Guest]

Yep iam 99% for sure that is light burn ,, only light burn turn's the leaves white like that along the veins & then brown dead leaves ..

peace

 

[hootterville]

bucky, welcome to the world of growing. do you have your lights vented? a 600 watter will prod alot of heat. seedbag seeds can be hermie prone. i would guess growers stress their females so they can get seeded bud and not have to deal with males that take alot of rm.
in terms of your prob. if it is light related i would think you will find the prob higher up. it does look like light burn. yeah you might want to give them a good flush to rule out salt build up, or nute excess. you said you were considering hydro but you sound reserved about that. i grow hydro, soil never appealed to me but BOG has an online tutorial for soil that I imagine is kick ass @ the very least bleeks grow reflected that.......take a look @ it. take a look @ bleeks gallery. good luck man.

 

[Guest]

Light burn is a very sneeky illness , it shows up like 4 or 5 days after the damage has been done & continue's until the plant is dead little by little every day ..

sorry man ,, if it is light burn kiss that plant good bye .. most of the leaves should be completely dead in a couple of weeks ..

peace

 

[cannadragon]

maybe you should have a look a BOG tutorial in his forum

 

[guest3854]

Buck Nasty I believe it might be Sulfur deficient as well as slight light burn .
Sulfur deficient goes like this ,
1.leaf stems , petioles turn prple .
2.leaf tips can burn , darken and hook downward
3.symtoms are in older leaves
Try some epsom salts for acoupla days , don't over do .

 

[Buck Nasty]

What does everybody think? Should I finish these two off? I have 4 Jock Horror and 3 Skunk's vegging for a month now. So I wouldnt be too hurt about hacking them. Seeing how its my first grow I didnt expect any yield anyways. Im surprised they made it this far.

 

[Buck Nasty]

Oh yeah..heres a pic of my hermies..Can anyone recommend some good threads on pruning and topping? I topped and pruned these two once, and by the looks of them compared to what I see on here. I need to do a lot of research on topping and pruning, as well as LST. I like these smilies you can add to these posts!

 

[halfbaked]

Dude I would finish it. My last grow I had a hermie that was strong as hell. The yield was crap but it was better than nothing. know what I mean? :smile:
They don't look too bad and with a few more days they'll start to do better after the flush. Finish it you'll be glad you did when you are smokin even if it is a hermie. And next time you'll know better. :smile:

 

[Guest]

See thread in sig for info on LST training

good luck

 

[guest3854]

Check out some of pistol whipt pruning techniques