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"Shake the tree" removing/vacuuming dead leaves

tiffa

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I have a method around 5 weeks into flower whereby I shake my plants to remove the VAST amount of dead dry, shriveled leaves out of my canopy (half a bin bag). It would take ages to pick them out individually but the clear up SUCKS!

I've searched everywhere for ideas to clean up, leaf vacuums (big and unwieldy) household vacuums but they will get blocked quickly.

Anyone have any ideas for picking up the leaves off the floor? I can't find any info that other growers also have this bitch of a job, just me?

:peacock::tree:
 
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xavier7995

Broom and dust pan? Vacuum or mop to get any tiny pieces that may be left behind.
 

f-e

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I use a domestic/light duty wet/dry cylinder vacuum. If the narrowest part of the hoover is the pick-up point, then anything getting in won't block it. Sometimes that restriction means lots of leaves stuck on the end of the hose, so you crush them in your hand while its sucking.
 

tiffa

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I use a domestic/light duty wet/dry cylinder vacuum. If the narrowest part of the hoover is the pick-up point, then anything getting in won't block it. Sometimes that restriction means lots of leaves stuck on the end of the hose, so you crush them in your hand while its sucking.

Cheers...Is yours bagless? I can imagine a bag being a right PITA rather than emptying a container. What brand is yours? Many claim to be bagless only to have a filter that clogs really quickly. It's dam confusing.
 
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f-e

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Mine no longer exists unfortunately. Where the hose enters the cylinder they quite invariably put a 90 degree bend on the inside, to stop the debris hitting the sucky bit at speed. It's the 90 bend that sucks the most though, as it's where things get stuck. In the challenge hoovers I have, it's removable.

Most of the £40 wet/dry units will do alright. Though you may want to leave the wheels off if your space is tight.

I think me matey coughed up £60 for this one https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb351vac-1400w-20ltr-wet-dry-vacuum-cleaner-240v/56239
It's 1400w when the legal limit is 1000w iirc. The 1300w £45 one only holds 5L of water, though it's dry capacity looks to be higher than the £60 one. He claims it's better than mine which he broke. I had the £40 yellow one from the jet wash people once, but it was crap. I don't think you need spend a lot, but there is good and bad out there.

This argos 1500w thing is £50 and has the elbow you may wish to cut off, but the filter would then need gaffer tape or something to stop it getting shredded. You really want something with a nylon foam filter that was meant for water usage. It does actually come with two, but until the box is open, you won't know. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8815785

I have had them opening a few in screwfix.

This is interesting. £47 down from £60 and has the foam and fabric. Good hose length and a few extensions. https://www.toolstation.com/einhell-tc-vc1820s-20l-wet-dry-vacuum-cleaner/p93891
I reckon I would look that over first. Or the smaller bucket model, as everything else is the same. It's £52 though, not on offer. Still.. It's no good having one too big
 

tiffa

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Mine no longer exists unfortunately. Where the hose enters the cylinder they quite invariably put a 90 degree bend on the inside, to stop the debris hitting the sucky bit at speed. It's the 90 bend that sucks the most though, as it's where things get stuck. In the challenge hoovers I have, it's removable.

Most of the £40 wet/dry units will do alright. Though you may want to leave the wheels off if your space is tight.

I think me matey coughed up £60 for this one https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb351vac-1400w-20ltr-wet-dry-vacuum-cleaner-240v/56239
It's 1400w when the legal limit is 1000w iirc. The 1300w £45 one only holds 5L of water, though it's dry capacity looks to be higher than the £60 one. He claims it's better than mine which he broke. I had the £40 yellow one from the jet wash people once, but it was crap. I don't think you need spend a lot, but there is good and bad out there.

This argos 1500w thing is £50 and has the elbow you may wish to cut off, but the filter would then need gaffer tape or something to stop it getting shredded. You really want something with a nylon foam filter that was meant for water usage. It does actually come with two, but until the box is open, you won't know. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8815785

I have had them opening a few in screwfix.

This is interesting. £47 down from £60 and has the foam and fabric. Good hose length and a few extensions. https://www.toolstation.com/einhell-tc-vc1820s-20l-wet-dry-vacuum-cleaner/p93891
I reckon I would look that over first. Or the smaller bucket model, as everything else is the same. It's £52 though, not on offer. Still.. It's no good having one too big

Now that's a very generous answer, thanks!...Yes I've seen the "jet wash people" one in Aldi for 50 notes, like you say poor reviews though, matches what you say. Thanks for the filter advice - I SO needed this kind of info for years! Bless you!
 

f-e

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If you manage to find a decent model, that sucks well and doesn't cost the earth, can you ask if they have a sister? :)
 

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If you manage to find a decent model, that sucks well and doesn't cost the earth, can you ask if they have a sister? :)

One of those big Henry’s mate ,,make a shitload of noise but will suck the fillings out of teeth,,,,bag gets stinky then lob it and put new bag in,,,served well for over 10 years,,,,,,,s2:tiphat:
 

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One of those big Henry’s mate ,,make a shitload of noise but will suck the fillings out of teeth,,,,bag gets stinky then lob it and put new bag in,,,served well for over 10 years,,,,,,,s2:tiphat:

I used one with a trimming machine for hours on end, and it just worked. Often they won't work continuously, even with full air flow through the motor. That thing just took it in it's stride. The newer ones (last decade) have a two speed switch. I never used one with dry twiggy stuff though.

Well over £100 now I think. But Henry definitely has a sister. There is a whole family of them. I think you need the big green George to suck up water though.

I kinda glanced over that. A wet/dry is great for sucking water out of pipes, tanks, dirty buckets. The flood drain bucket systems almost demand one between cycles.

Pretty good when you have a flood to.
 

tiffa

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Centuries later we still have brooms and dustpans.

I don't wonder why.

Try not to yourself....

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Not possible, lots of square pots with blumats and lots of feed tubes that like to be undisturbed. I guess I could try a yard brush for the tiny bits of dead leaf that fall in the pots, good idea!. Thanks for your attempt at a simpleton answer:tiphat:
 

tiffa

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I suppose the wider question is should we shake the tree anyway? Or just the dead leaves there till the chop.
 

Mr. J

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You really shouldn't have a bunch of dead shit on your plants at any time unless you've really neglected things. At week 5, or at any other time during the cycle, my undercanopy is clean stem, no dead leaves, no shit that will only end up as larfy crap, no dead shit laying in the pots or on the floor. That stuff is constantly being dealt with along the way. Cleanliness is next to godliness.
 

f-e

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A vacuum can quickly remove any remains from tree's or pots, with a longer reach then just your arm. No shaking of the tree. Which under the right light looks like a resin shower
 

mean mr.mustard

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Not possible, lots of square pots with blumats and lots of feed tubes that like to be undisturbed. I guess I could try a yard brush for the tiny bits of dead leaf that fall in the pots, good idea!. Thanks for your attempt at a simpleton answer:tiphat:

You left out some details it seems.

Simpleton.

:tiphat:

In light of the recent discovery, I second that vaccuum.
 
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