Sexing Clones

[Dramajic]

Maybe Im just smokin too much and my memory is shot, but I can't remember being able to sex a clone at 10 inches tall. I screwed up and got some clones from a male Super Skunk and I am trying to correct my little mistake. Seems like I can already pick the boys from the girls.

Holy shit! Dont garden when yo ass is stoned. Somebody out there has mucho experience with this so lay it on me.

PS Lowe's sells a little grow box that is super for cloning. Its 4" x 6" (tall) and 24" long. In rock wool I got 85% success, which I aint never done before.

 

[Hal]

whatever sex plant you take your cuttings from, that is EXACTLY the sex you will get in your clones. If you take cuttings from a male plant, all those cuttings will be male. Nothing you can do to change them.

Thats why everyone takes their cuttings from a confirmed female plant.

 

[Dramajic]

But I want to know if it is normal to be able to sex a young clone at 10 inches tall.

 

[oil beef hooked]

Forget it Hal, Dramajic's brain just ain't taking incoming calls.

 

[Guest]

so do u have this straight?

1. you took a bunch of clones from a male plant
2. you started to grow those clones
3. you're wondering how to tell if your clone from a male plant is male or female?

i think i'm missing something here.....
how many weeks the mother (father in your case?) plant has been alive determines whether you can sex it successfully or not. Its the maturity of the plant, not how tall it is......otherwise people would just introduce plants to low light conditions to get them to stretch so they could sex them.

not trying to be a jerk here.....i'm just not sure i understand the question

 

[Dramajic]

so do u have this straight?

1. you took a bunch of clones from a male plant
2. you started to grow those clones
3. you're wondering how to tell if your clone from a male plant is male or female?

not trying to be a jerk here.....i'm just not sure i understand the question

No offense taken. I have possibly 3 clones taken from a male Super Skunk. Two of the three have already developed classic male sex characteristics. The other clones, taken from known female plants, have developed typical female characteristics.

My question: Is it typical or atypical for a 10" clone to display sex characteristics at this stage of development?

 

[Dramajic]

Forget it Hal, Dramajic's brain just ain't taking incoming calls.

Chalk it up as a genuine thirst for knowledge from the good people who post in this forum and are generous and patient enough to share their extensive knowledge of growing fine cannabis.

 

[Hal]

Hey Dramajic...

So, you do understand that the parent plant that you take the cuttings from absolutely determines the sex of the clones....but you want to know how soon your clone/cutting will be sexually mature, and begin to show the female characteristics?

My question would be...why is that important to you? Since you already know what the sex is because you know what sex the parent is (I would normally just say "mom" but you seem to be cloning males as well...), and once you get the clones growing nicely it will be a couple of months before you need to make any decisions about harvesting...why do you need to know at what point the initial sexual characteristics begin to show?

 

[Guest]

If the cuttings were taken from a pistil free plant which is preferred,it normally wouldn't be showing pistils at 10" in height.Of course strains/pheno's are different.If the cuts were taken from a pistilly plant in a veg photoperiod or from a plant in a flower photoperiod pistils at that stage would be totally normal,and undesirable.Thats why I take all my cuts pistil free,I want the plant to create foliage during the veg photoperiod not waste its energy in producing pistils.

 

[Dramajic]

If the cuttings were taken from a pistil free plant which is preferred,it normally wouldn't be showing pistils at 10" in height.Of course strains/pheno's are different.If the cuts were taken from a pistilly plant in a veg photoperiod or from a plant in a flower photoperiod pistils at that stage would be totally normal,and undesirable.Thats why I take all my cuts pistil free,I want the plant to create foliage during the veg photoperiod not waste its energy in producing pistils.

Thanks. I just don't recall male/female genetalia appearing on a plant so young.

If the cutting is taken from a plant with pistils, would a clone of this clone, and each successive generation, have pistils? I think I already know the answer. I am discovering that accurate record keeping is absolutely essential, as in label everything.

You are a true American and a scholar. You taught me something.

 

[Guest]

a clone is just as old as the plant is was cut from...its mature does not matter that it is 10 inches or 2

Thanks. I just don't recall male/female genetalia appearing on a plant so young.

If the cutting is taken from a plant with pistils, would a clone of this clone, and each successive generation, have pistils? I think I already know the answer.

You are a true American and a scholar. You taught me something.

 

[JITAMON]

hope this helps

hope this helps

A clone, regardless of size is governed by photoperiod. A clone can also be influenced in said photoperiod by fertilizer manipulation. A clone never changes sex completely, it cannot. If WAS A FEMALE,THEN IS A FEMALE. What can happen is hermi tendencies. I have noticed that if i take a clone while pistilate formation occurs then the resulting clone population has pistils while the roots form.The plant takes time to fully reverse to veg tendencies.

 

[Dramajic]

A clone, regardless of size is governed by photoperiod. A clone can also be influenced in said photoperiod by fertilizer manipulation. A clone never changes sex completely, it cannot. If WAS A FEMALE,THEN IS A FEMALE. What can happen is hermi tendencies. I have noticed that if i take a clone while pistilate formation occurs then the resulting clone population has pistils while the roots form.The plant takes time to fully reverse to veg tendencies.

My current grow is from Blue Mystic clones that had pistils. It is mostly branches with reduced bud formation, even though it has been in 12/12 for 6 weeks.
(Eurogrower/1000 watts Hortilux HPS). I think I have screwed up.

The grow before this one was Northern Lights, and the yield was like 1.75 oz. prime bud per plant. It impressed the hell out of me.

I have come to realize that a Majic Marker is one of your greatest assets if you desire to practice the art of growing fine cannabis.

Betcha I don't make that mistake again.

 

[JITAMON]

hey now

hey now

"No offense taken. I have possibly 3 clones taken from a male Super Skunk. Two of the three have already developed classic male sex characteristics. The other clones, taken from known female plants, have developed typical female characteristics."- you earlier.

Ok so you know your boys from girls whats the problem? if the female clones are showing sex markem and let em grow roots. Then treat them like a regrow. feed them as if a seedling. low doses of veg formula. you will see a regrow in no time!!

 

[Guest]

Dramajic,go towards the bottom of the vegging clones and try to pull some cuts that are pistil free,it can be reversed.If there are no pistil free cuts tale a cut with the fewest pistils and veg her out.As soon as possible take a pistil free cut from her.It may take a few "generations" if you know what I mean,but pistils in veg are not typically phenotypical or genotypical and it can be reversed.Pistil free vegging plants are the goal to shoot for,pistil production in a veg photoperiod is counterproductive.You will not achieve this,your vegging clones probably will produce some pistils especially if you veg your clones for weeks like I do,but it is the goal.To dream the impossible dream..To fight the unbeatable pistils.Good song huh?

 

[Guest]

hey dramagic where did you get your system and do you like it...peace

 

[Dramajic]

To dream the impossible dream..To fight the unbeatable pistils.Good song huh?

Especially if sung by Richard Kiley (as I recall, the original DonQuixote in the Broadway version of Man of La Mancha)

My problems go back to when we were forced to evacuate for hurricane Rita. The damn hurricane really screwed up all my grow stuff (no light or water for 3 weeks, 100 plus degrees of Texas heat).

 

[Dramajic]

hey dramagic where did you get your system and do you like it...peace

I got the entire system from Growco. These people are just about the cheapest and best in the business. I get all my hydro stuff from them. I was a little concerned with shipping the glass for the SunSystem I got from them. Arrived on UPS in 5 days with no breakage on anything. The accidentally shorted me on one occasion, but they corrected the oversight quickly.

The Eurogrower is great. It can be easily expanded to a 12 bucket system with parts purchased from Wal Mart. I like the 45 gallon rez. General Hydro did a good engineering job. I do not use the coconut coir that comes with the system. I grow only in Hydrotone.

I am an old 65 year old stoner from the 60's who does not ever have to take another goddam pee test. A good sativa/indica cross is the best arthritis medicine there is.

Strange thing about growing cannabis. You learn something new with each grow.

 

[Dramajic]

I have always been more into seeds than clones. I get really great service from Gypsy and/or Doc Chronic. Call it stupid or whatever, but I always use a credit card for orders (last 4 years) and I have never had a problem. Not one. Just lucky, I guess. If my ass gets busted, so be it. I hope the food is tolerable down at county lockup.

Thanks guys.

 

[Guest]

You'll get into clones when you get the hang of it,I've kept a blockhead pheno close to four years now without ever keeping a mother plant.You want to take all cuts in veg starting with the original seedplant,then when the first clone gets big enough take a cut from it in the veg stage of course,and so on.My blockhead is still relatively free from pistils in veg after 4 years of doing this.Sometimes I'll take 2 cuts from 15 clones,sometimes I'll take 3 plants and cannibalize them,doesnt make a lick of difference.Just take all cuts in the veg stage and if a maturing clone looks pistilly,quickly go towards the bottom of it to snag a pistil free cut.