Sensizym spiking my PPMs!

[CrazyKappa]

I am day 31 into flower with hempy buckets, running AN Connoisseur, as well as big bud, however that just stopped. My normal feeds thus far have been around 1540 as i been running full strength. But no nute burn, and my runoff PPMs were not spiking, so it was acceptable. A few weeks ago i bought some Sensizym, from my first feed my runoff ppm spiked hard, jumping to 1840. At first i was worried, but thought, perhaps this is normal, then i started getting nute burn.

I flushed 5 days ago, then feed without Sensizym, since it was diluted from the flush, my runoff PPMs were not ridicules, but when i fed 2 days ago, my runoff was still about 400 ppms higher then the input. (around 1250)

I plan on flushing again next feeding tonight, but how long can i expect that shit to keep effecting my PPMs? Clearly i must have had a lot of organic material to be broken down if they spiked that hard, was my mistake adding it so late in the game?

The bottle says use it for weeks 1-6 flower, i added it around week 3, but should i start even before week one? Should i be using it during veg too? That way the organic matter wont build up to the point of effecting my PPM as much, or should i ditch the product all together?

Have any of you experienced hard PPM spikes due to Sensizym?

Thank you very much!

 

[Mate Dave]

Well it breakes doen dead organic matter making nutriment.. Did you not know this would happen?

Fcuk what the bottle says.. Common sense rules

 

[CrazyKappa]

I did not know it would hit this hard, that whole hindsight thing. So should i run it from the start of veg, or to the hell with the dead organic matter, and not use it at all? After all, i cant control the ratios if i don't know what it is being broken down into.

Thank You!

 

[CrazyKappa]

Or should i not be using it for feedings, perhaps just run it in my RO flush water?

Thank You!

 

[Mate Dave]

It's not a nutrient directly it's meant for breaking down dead roots and OM & for cleaning coir and soil. It does nothing to flower yields or flavour.. It's usless mate.. Like flushing is a Faux pas.

If you believe in flushing plants and not the rootzone and media then your delusional.

All it's usefull for is auto recirculating systems and those who have dialed in their results, it helps them with the cycling of the Soil food wed via ther micro heard..

 

[CrazyKappa]

Cant say i agree with you on flushing, if you have nute burn, you have an excess of salt, flushing out your medium with water helps clear out that excess salt, does it not?

So the Sensizym is pretty much a waste? I run pure perlite in 5 gallon hempy buckets, thought it might be useful in keeping the passive rez clean, and healthy. Did not expect it to affect yield or flavor, just to keep my rootzone healthy.

"If you belive in flushing plants and not the rootzone and media then your delusional." What do you mean by this? How do you flush your plant, without flushing your rootzone and media? Would seem an impossible task, least on a hempy system.

Thank you!

 

[CrazyKappa]

If i don't need it, and its only going to give me PPM problems, its gone. Quite frankly, things were both looking and going great before i started using it.

 

[Mate Dave]

Your not getting the big picture.. You flush out the rootzone but the plant is still full of the shite it's grown on..

You can't flush a plant, it will always be a dirty chem ridden shit whore. Only the pot or container or substrate can be cleaned or better put leeched, or thrown it out of balance..

These are all the real terms for what is happenning when you have to correct a grower issue.. or "Flush"

 

[CrazyKappa]

Always took that saying (flushing the plant) as meaning to flush the rootzone, as why would it mean anything else? Of course you cant flush what is stored inside the plant, so why would that saying imply to do the impossible? Are we just arguing semantics at this point?

 

[Mate Dave]

Just trying to explain how leeching works. Don't try get cleaver with me mr I can't read what the fcukin substance is made for on the website and I just follow the label..


What's this mean? ... so why would that saying imply to do the impossible?

I'm English dude, do you speak it?

Lets leave it at it is...

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Wow

 

[CrazyKappa]

Who is the one getting clever? I came here asking for advice, i have been nothing but polite, instead of advice i get chastised over using a common phrase, with a well established meaning within the cannabis world...

Clearly you know what i was talking about, as you yourself pointed out that flushing the actual nutrients stored within the plant is physically impossible, so why would i possibly be referring to something that cant be done... But instead of contributing to a forum members dilemma, i get nothing but scattered remarks referring to my sanity. You do realize your dropping fallacies like its no ones business. Right?

"Lets leave it at it is..." So you get to come to my thread, start shit for no reason what so ever, then call the shot on when it ends? Who are you again? That's right...

Have a nice day

 

[St. Phatty]

Have any of you experienced hard PPM spikes due to Sensizym?

Thank you very much!

Nope - but definitely have experienced PPM spikes from me giving the plants too much TLC.

I can't help but be curious what would happen if you just used half as much Sensizym, how the plants would react.

I grew hydro from about 1990 to 2008. Mostly using GH nutes, in rockwool.

Once I got fantastic results adding orchid food with 10-26-26 NPK count, to a GH mix that was already working. Theoretically I was WAAAY over-nuting them (PPM would have a little high) - and, in that case, they loved it.


As far as rinsing, I do hear about people clearing the plants. Feeding them water in their last few days, so they use up the chems and the bud isn't harvested with un-metabolized nutes in it.

 

[CrazyKappa]

I tried half strength the feeding before i cut it out, i even lowered my base nutes to around 1200, still ended up spiking hard, and continuing nute burn. My guess is i had a lot of dead organic material, when i got the plants they were in very rough shape, (they were already vegged out, and had multiple deficiencies) and they had a rather severe transplant shock. I think i will give it a try on my next batch, ones i am growing from clone, but i will start using it in veg, so there will not be as much material to be broken down.

Going to flush the medium tonight real good, then feed just base at 1000ppm, hopefully that will allow the plant to eat up leftover nutes, and my runoff ppms will go back to normal.

Far as the final flush goes, i am 2-3 weeks from that stage, think this strain finishes at around 9 weeks, i am just going into week 5.

Thanks man!

 

[Bakeneko]

On flushing 8week strain start flush beginning of week 7 nothing but R.O. water adjust the week if growing a longer flowering strain. If you're in soil that residual is part of what you're getting rid of, the plant will use up burn up any nutes left in the leaves. I've done it without a 2 week flush and with it. The 2 week flush always smokes better tastes better, better finished product . DWC, Hydro, Aero flushes a lot better than soil.

Been growing east coast and west coast since 2001. $$$ that people pay wanting your product over someone elses says it all. A lot of people just talk out thier ass to hear themselves talk. A lot of people cant do a proper flush too smart to learn how.