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Semi-newb need some feedback from all ya´ll od veterans. Soil mix & planting holes.

manphredd

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Semi-newb need some feedback from all ya´ll od veterans. Soil mix & planting holes.

Hey-hoe! What´s up, matey´s?

First off, i want to tell you guys a little bit about myself. I have a couple of years indoor growing experience, but i am a semi-total od guerilla growing noob, besides growing veggies then. But i guess that´s kinda alike. Anyways, i´m at 57N. That´s like north of Denmark, or south of Sweden. Or very north of Scotland.


I am a planting hole super noob, i have never in my entire life, dug a planting hole. And this year i am going to do multiple ones. I would really appreciate your feedback. Let me explain what i am thinking to do, and if something comes to mind while you reading this, please just write a couple of words. :)


I am going to get going out there in the woods soon. It´s about 4-6 weeks until planting out the babies. And this is the first time i will prepare, and growing in planting holes. Last year, that was my very first guerilla grow run, i grew in pots and bags. The plants did very good until something unfortunate happened that i´m not going to get into now. :) You guys probably can guess.

Last spring, during my guerilla od prep, i had such a hard time. And i am not supposed to carry heavy stuff. I was carrying bags of soil out into the woods. I hauled maybe 200-300 liters of ready soil mix out there. I took maybe at most 50 liters each time, and i thought at many times i would croke. It was a major fu*king PITA.

Ok, so this time i thought i would make it easier for myself. And i am planning to mix native soil from the planting holes with coco and/or perlite/vermiculite. The spot where i am growing there is much sandy, sometimes red sandy soil. And i need it to "fluff it up" a little bit.

I bought four large, heavy ass coco bricks (5 kg expanded = 70 liters), They were very expencive, so i will have to wait a couple of weeks, but i am going to buy two or three bricks more soon. I also going to get some more perlite and vermiculite.

My plan as i wrote, is to dig large planting holes, get rid of the bottom part of the soil, and use the perlite and coco coir to fluff up the native top soil. I am also going to mix in lime and a algea based slow release fertilizer. Maybe half strenght, so nature can take it´s course a little bit at least.

What do you think guys? If you guys have some feedback i would really appreciate it. :)

Ps. A buddy on another forum said to me that he thought that i should expand, and rinse out the salt in the coco before hauling it out. That´s a major PITA. That will fu*k up, and miss the whole point of getting the coco in the first place.

Can´t i just carry it out, and lay it on the ground and let the rain rinse it a couple of weeks? Or can that result in something bad, like pests or such?

Ps 2. As i grew in pots last year, can i maybe re-use the soil of the plants that didn´t make it very long? Males, deer food and such.

Peace out guys! :)

/H.
 
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See the thing about natural soil is the PH probably is not where you want it.
So the plants will have a bit of trouble eating.
Also, you need to know the type of soil it is ect ect...

Where i'm from soil is fairly good and i've heard of mixing 50/50 promix with native but I mean when it comes down to it. I would only be screwing myself in the end.
Plants have a harder time taking in nutrients due to conflicting soil PH's and I would get reduced yield I would imagine.

But, if you have your mind set on doing it that way. Get a Soil PH testing kit, test the soil figure out where it lays. (Probably acidic) Get some Lime and Sweeten Away!

I feel ya brother though, I gotta haul 40 Sacks of promix into the woods... Its literally 2 weeks of work... I am not looking forward to it. But the results in the end.. Worth it.
 

manphredd

Member
I am going to add lime also ofcourse. Sorry, i must have forgot writing that.

I have a question. If you should add too much lime, is it going to get alkaline (+7,0), or does it just go as high as 7,0 and stop there?

Btw, another question. I don´t know what pH my native soil has at the different choosen spots. Is there a way of testing the pH of native soil?
Does the ordinary way of testing indoor plants work? Just put it in a container and run neutral water through it.

I recently bought a pH meter. I have used those pH test kits a long time. When i first got them and started to adjust my water, i saw a dramatic difference in my plants growth.

But now when i got the pH meter and was able to see my exact pH. It made an even bigger difference. Now i have all green beautiful healthy plants. :) I love it, and my plants love it too. :) I would advice every non-hydro grower that doesn´t use a pH meter to get it today. It´s an investment that will pay off, big time i say.

Thanx for taking your time, KryptKeepa.
 
Dolomite lime has a neutral ph of 7, so it wont raise it any higher.
But you would have a hard time getting it up that far :p

Soil test kits are available at Lowe's Garden Centers. These home soil-testing kits will give you an immediate analysis of your soil's pH.

Your local Cooperative Extension office will also test your soil sample for pH and nutrient levels (some states charge a small fee). The soil analysis usually takes a few weeks to get back to you. The analysis includes detailed results and suggested amendments specific to your region.


How to Test your Soil

You'll need a clean bucket, a garden trowel and a clean plastic (not metal) container.

Steps:

1. Thoroughly clean the tools you are using to collect the soil sample.
2. In the planting area, dig five holes 6 to 8 inches deep.
3. Take a ½-inch slice along the side of a hole and place it in the bucket. Repeat this process for all holes.
4. Collect samples from different areas that will be growing similar plants.
5. Mix the soil in the bucket. Spread the soil on a newspaper to dry out. Collect a pint for your sample.

Wet soil can give a false test reading. Be sure to take the sample when the soil is fairly dry. You may want to check your soil more than once to verify your results.
 
Yah PH or Potential Hydrogen plays a very important role for uptake of nutrients. IF out of balance it causes specific nutrients to become either locked out or severely lowers absorbtion from root matter.
So I mean if you don't ph nutrients then your not allowing the plants to optimally absorb there proper food.


Any more questions feel free to ask!
 
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manphredd

Member
Ok, great. That´s what i thought. But the trick is to get it to 6,5 and not all the way up. But i think i will make it.

Yeah, about those soil testers. I have always heard that they are wack, and don´t really gives a good read of the ph. But i will collect some soil when the ground freeze out.

You have been to alot of help, kk. But you can help me out even more. :)

I did a little bit of calculation yesterday, and it seems like, after i buy my coco and Perlite, i will need another 300-400 liters of "fluffing" adds. I don´t have the money for more coco or Perlite, so i thought i would use crushed Leca to mix in. Is this a bad idea, or what?
 
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