Seeds!?

[BagseedSamurai]

Okay, seriously. What is the deal on seeds!?

Do they add into your "material" weight? Can you buy them? Sell them? Pop them beans and grow big beautiful plants out under the sun?!

Okay, that last question was to add weight to the whole question but I am honestly curious what the deal with seeds is. You see, I have some gear of my own I have been working on and I hope to release a few of them into the world by the end of this year. So naturally, I find myself wondering what the laws would be regarding that.

Anyone have an idea?

Oh.. and clones. Whats with those things? DNA is the same. In a big hydroponic container, the roots would tangle together. That sounds like one plant to me!

 

[gettogro]

What the heck r u talking about?
Yes you can buy, sell, and plant seeds.
I have some friends that r twins from the same mother I think they are 2 different people but they still share an apt.

Hope this helps

 

[BagseedSamurai]

Actually, I was wondering. Is sale of seed regulated? Is there a "seed count" to be aware of, or some other limit?

 

[SGMeds]

To the best of my knowledge... local to CO... it simply counts against your usable weight of MMj... just like buds... counted by weight.


Best suggestion that I've been given is MIP License to do some real breeding... hash/cook/process the nugs, harvest & sell the seeds. Thousands dedicated to selective breeding.


See ya on the flip side!

 

[dachieftan]

what's an MIP license?

 

[SGMeds]

Marijuana Infused Products... cooks! ;-)


A major exception in the new law... kinda like a disp, yet kinda not. You can have large plant designations, potentially larger weight limits, & distribute to other MMC's. Interesting stuff.

 

[copobo]

so... what stops an MIP from selling whole buds, packaged for cooking?

 

[SoCoMMJ]

so... what stops an MIP from selling whole buds, packaged for cooking?

The law:
(9) "MEDICAL MARIJUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT" MEANS A PRODUCT INFUSED WITH MEDICAL MARIJUANA THAT IS INTENDED FOR USE OR CONSUMPTION OTHER THAN BY SMOKING, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO EDIBLE PRODUCTS, OINTMENTS, AND TINCTURES. THESE PRODUCTS, WHEN MANUFACTURED OR SOLD BY A LICENSED MEDICAL MARIJUANA CENTER OR A MEDICAL MARIJUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT MANUFACTURER, SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED A FOOD OR DRUG FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE "COLORADO FOOD AND DRUG ACT", PART 4 OF ARTICLE 5 OF TITLE 25, C.R.S.

Even though it says "Intended", I'm not sure that I would want to be the one running the test case there

 

[tharmer]

Isn't the department of Revenue considering hash and oils as infused products?

 

[copobo]

looks like the way to go to me.

I was already thinking in a year or so, Colorado "caregiver hash" will likely make its way across the USA and become as famous as Panama Red.

he'll steal your women then he'll rob your head!

seriously, this shit IS GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE.

it'll be interesting to follow the path of hash around the world. There will be more made in CO than in Turkey of old...

 

[BagseedSamurai]

I actually have one of those. My plant count is 12.

What about seed vendors out of state?

 

[Tr33]

I was already thinking in a year or so, Colorado "caregiver hash" will likely make its way across the USA

many many pounds of Co dank bubble hash and sift already have made it's way across the USA to the East Coast and been puffed these last 5yrs

 

[Greenmopho]

What about seed vendors out of state?

From my understanding, you can follow the Centennial Seeds route, and also what some Cali seed companies are doing, and only sell "medical" seeds within your state. If you have a nice pretty professional looking crush proof air tight packaging to go with your seeds, or even a pretty little paper sleeve, you could distribute your seeds via dispensaries across the entire state. To be legal you would need the MIP or whatever license, I'm sure.

The other route is the international sales route. Create another entity and sell your seeds through seed bay, seed boutique, or other online seed vendor. To have less chance of getting in trouble, I believe its standard protocol to setup some inventory for worldwide sales in either Canada or the Netherlands, somewhere where hemp seed is legal on the federal level and therefore legal to sell and export.

I think to avoid US Fed involvement you would only do one or the other, or both and keep the entities separate, maybe even rename your strains slightly. I don't think the Feds would like you selling seeds online from a Med state under a med license to people in the UK, Germany, Florida, Australia, New York, Indonesia, or any other place where they castrate people for a gram of weed.

 

[SoCoMMJ]

Isn't the department of Revenue considering hash and oils as infused products?

I heard that last week, now I hearing it's going to be considered concentrate. Who knows where they will end up, and how many times it will change getting there.

 

[Tr33]

From my understanding, you can follow the Centennial Seeds route, and also what some Cali seed companies are doing, and only sell "medical" seeds within your state. If you have a nice pretty professional looking crush proof air tight packaging to go with your seeds, or even a pretty little paper sleeve, you could distribute your seeds via dispensaries across the entire state. To be legal you would need the MIP or whatever license, I'm sure.

The other route is the international sales route. Create another entity and sell your seeds through seed bay, seed boutique, or other online seed vendor. To have less chance of getting in trouble, I believe its standard protocol to setup some inventory for worldwide sales in either Canada or the Netherlands, somewhere where hemp seed is legal on the federal level and therefore legal to sell and export.

I think to avoid US Fed involvement you would only do one or the other, or both and keep the entities separate, maybe even rename your strains slightly. I don't think the Feds would like you selling seeds online from a Med state under a med license to people in the UK, Germany, Florida, Australia, New York, Indonesia, or any other place where they castrate people for a gram of weed.

The seed question as to permits is interesting, under the MIP is weird. Something they never considered.
I can see it now, every TDH selling crappy f2 f3 mixing bagseed varieties, not truly understanding how genetics play.
This is gonna be a tough issue imo.

 

[copobo]

this brings up another question - how are clone sales regulated?

what are you guys doing at dispensaries? are they considered plants? If you have a tray of 100 clones for sale at your Center, do you need patient coverage for 100?

is it smokable or edible? who knows its fate

 

[Moonshine*]

The company I signed on with has 6 MIP's in the companies facility.

Lot and Lots of Breeding about to go down.

Im sure under the MIP lic you could make toasted hempseed products as well.

 

[Greenmopho]

The seed question as to permits is interesting, under the MIP is weird. Something they never considered.
I can see it now, every TDH selling crappy f2 f3 mixing bagseed varieties, not truly understanding how genetics play.
This is gonna be a tough issue imo.

Yea, its gonna get stupid and crazy. Seeds might get played out and whored out like clones are now...hope that doesn't happen.

And what does TDH stand for?

The company I signed on with has 6 MIP's in the companies facility.

Why do you need 6 licenses in one facility? Doesn't just one license grant you unlimited plant count without patients anyway?

 

[Moonshine*]

Y



Why do you need 6 licenses in one facility? Doesn't just one license grant you unlimited plant count without patients anyway?

There are 6 edibles companies that signed in to the facility. Each has a separate grow, no sharing co mingling of plants or products etc.

3 Food co, Soda co, Candy maker and a new infused product that I cant speak of.

 

[Greenmopho]

There are 6 edibles companies that signed in to the facility. Each has a separate grow, no sharing co mingling of plants or products etc.

3 Food co, Soda co, Candy maker and a new infused product that I cant speak of.

There is also a Soda Company doing a grow adjacent to our warehouse here in BoCo. Seems a popular endeavor.