Seedlings yellow bottom leaves + twist

[free radical]

I have a few seedlings, about 2-3 weeks old. The other day i noticed yellow spots showing on the lower set of leaves and it appears to be getting worse. Also ive noticed quite a few twisted/turned leaves.

Im leaning toward PH from what ive read...thoughts?

 

[DryAndHigh]

more info is probably needed to help you, not that I know shit about shit

 

[Weedninja]

In Stitch's sick plants sticky thread, there is a troubleshooting thingy. If you fill that out, people will be able to help you better.

 

[free radical]

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Here are some pics, hopefully this will help. The bottom 2 leaves are kinda hard on one of the seedlings. Thinking about transplanting tomorrow and then maybe getting some bat guano or N food.

 

[Core]

more info ...fill in infirmary questioneer and links are not showing pics

 

[free radical]

Sorry, i should have done that from the start. I can't figure out how to upload directly...the pics should work if you follow the links but ill see what else i can do.

SOIL:

How long has this problem been going on? Just a few days
What STRAIN are you growing?Northern Lights, but its showing on my OH x Skunk1 and bagseed as well
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? 2.5 weeks
How Tall are the plants? Roughly 6-8 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? vegetative
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) None yet just trying to find mothers
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) Still the party cups
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) Fox farm ocean forest
What Nutrient's are you using? none
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding?
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
How often are you watering?
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
What size bulb are you using? Shop light/CFL
What is the distance to the canopy? 1-2 inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) about 50%
What is the canopy temperature? low 70s
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) Day temp about 72-74, Night high 60s
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) Just an oscillating fan
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? Its in a big open closet, no need for intake/exhaust right now
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? sometimes
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? no
Is your water HARD or SOFT? I havent Ph'd it yet but i would guess hard
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Using tap water that I've let sit out for a few days to evaporate chlorine
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? no
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? no
Are plant's infected with pest's? no

 

[MynameStitch]

reason why they work for you is because you have an g account.

you can upload them here, just upload them in your gallery and do not post them here, because it won't let you, because you don't have enough posts to post pictures in threads yet.

 

[Weedninja]

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Here are some pics, hopefully this will help. The bottom 2 leaves are kinda hard on one of the seedlings. Thinking about transplanting tomorrow and then maybe getting some bat guano or N food.

Hold off on the feeding 'til we're done with you bro. Hot soil is potentially the problem here.

 

[free radical]

Ok Im uploading to my gallery, but here is an imageshack link real quick.

 

[free radical]

A couple more. Thanks for the help guys...I hope you can help me figure this out. Never had problems like this before.

 

[MynameStitch]

YUp. weedninja said it all man, getting a little hot there man.....

 

[free radical]

Ok, well what are my options? Currently they are under a 4ft shoplight that puts very very little heat if any at all. Would putting my babies in bigger pots help? I Ph'd my water using the $5 pool tester from wal-mart (where you add drops of red and whatnot) and it came out very high, like 7.4 or so. The chlorine was pretty high too. Could this be playing a part?

 

[Weedninja]

Not that kind of hot. I don't use the stuff myself, but the consensus around here is that Ocean Forest is too rich of a soil for seedlings. The recommended Fox Farm soil for seedlings is Light Warrior(I think).

Are you testing for chlorine after the water sits for a few days or straight from the tap?

Personally, I would move them to a lighter soil, THEN see if the problem continues. It wouldn't hurt to pH your tap water, but 7.4 is not that bad and is probably not what's tearing up your plants.

 

[mexilandrace]

you got holes in those cups?

 

[mexilandrace]

oh ya, and "hot," in the context used in this thread, means too much fertilizer in the soil for the plant to comfortably grow.

 

[free radical]

Not that kind of hot. I don't use the stuff myself, but the consensus around here is that Ocean Forest is too rich of a soil for seedlings. The recommended Fox Farm soil for seedlings is Light Warrior(I think).

Are you testing for chlorine after the water sits for a few days or straight from the tap?

Personally, I would move them to a lighter soil, THEN see if the problem continues. It wouldn't hurt to pH your tap water, but 7.4 is not that bad and is probably not what's tearing up your plants.

LOL hot soil, I get it now...thanks for the explanation.

I tested chlorine right away, I understand it evaporates so I will let it sit for a few days before giving to the babies. I'll check into the Light Warrior or a lighter soil asap!


And yes I have holes in the cup. I have a question about perlite in the cups, should I mix it in throughout the soil or just leave perlite in the bottom for drainage?

Thank you guys so much, you've helped me very much.

 

[Weedninja]

You do have to mix most of it in. Whether or not you leave some on the bottom is up to you. Personally, I do because it keeps water from pooling up in spots and going stagnant.