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Seedling Issues

SparcOne1

New member
Hi I recently popped some seeds and they are looking pretty sad, their growth seems to be stunned and there’s white spots on the leaves. My only theory is that the wood chips I mixed in with the soil contained some fungus or mold spores, I will upload some photos. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated especially as seeds here in the tropics are very hard to get. TIA
 

SparcOne1

New member
I’m struggling to upload photos but if you check out my album ‘Seedling Issues’ you can see the examples of what I’m taking about
 

troutman

Seed Whore
I’m struggling to upload photos but if you check out my album ‘Seedling Issues’ you can see the examples of what I’m taking about

Below each pic in your albums is a section called BB Code.

Copy and paste the text there into your posts and your pics will appear. :tiphat:
 

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
Like what?

I can see the danger of breaking a seedling with heavy watering. I use a mister.

I can also see the possibility of the water magnifying the droplet and burning the tiny round leaf (what's it called? Culloid or something close?).

Not banging you. Just curious. I always try to get a little water on the leaves on purpose. Don't plants take in water through the leaves, also?

Thanks.








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troutman

Seed Whore
Tiny seedlings that get overwatered tend to get fungus problems,etc.

With water on them it gets worse and their stems can get damaged by that.

Bigger plants can handle showers better.
 

SparcOne1

New member
If fungus is the issue should I repot them in a looser soil medium to see if they recover? Also they are wet because I sprayed them with some hydrogen peroxide to try and remove the white spots and they didn’t go back under the light until they dried. They just got watered that’s why they are wet and that top layer of compacted soil is only a 2cm deep and under that lies a much looser medium but maybe the top layer is suffocating the roots, I put that soil there to stabalise the stems
 

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
Tiny seedlings that get overwatered tend to get fungus problems,etc.

With water on them it gets worse and their stems can get damaged by that.

Bigger plants can handle showers better.


Cool, thanks bud. Always looking to learn something new.
Thanks again.
 

SparcOne1

New member
Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2 it works great against fungus issues and today the majority of the white spots are gone I guess it was PM or something similar so it helped a lot I just need to fix the slow growth issue now. PM on seedlings is something I’d never seen so that’s why I didn’t treat it earlier
 

SparcOne1

New member
Hi(an update) I’ve just repotted them very carefully into new pots with a medium of 50% mild out of the bag potting mix 50% perlite and no wood chips. The wood chips were from an Eco lodge my wife works at.

I’m used to growing in dry conditions like South Australia and Northern California but I’ve recently moved to Central America where it’s warm and humid all year round which is proving to be tricky. I’m growing out doors but vegging for the first part inside. To be honest I’ve never had such slow growth and root production, once they get outside they go great but that can take months to get them strong and big enough to handle the outside sun, I’m using bio rhizatonic for root stimulation but not having great results.

Other than repotting them the other issues I have rectified this week which should hopefully help and should have been done from the beginning has been replacing my bulb for the seedlings from a 25w CFL to an extra large 105w CFL, also you mentioned my PH and I finally tracked down a meter this week and my water was really high 7.5 to 8(not good).. I purchased some PH down so I am now feeding at 6.2/6.3.. the PH could be why I was having issues all along, I was told by a nieghbour he’d tested the water at 6.5 so I that’s why I didn’t stress about not having a PH meter. Finding equipment here in the tropics can be tricky and I have a new born so money for my grow is unfortunately strictly limited.

I’ve never seen mold on seedlings either but it did clear up when I treated it. The method of adding a layer of compacted soil was not my first choice it was because the stems needed support to stand straight but I can see now how that may of suffocated the roots but saying that only half of the seedlings had the added soil but all were showing the same signs of stress.

I have a 2000m2 piece of land so I’m working a couple of compost piles, I’m also making my own KNF liquid fertilizers and microorganism solutions which the plants love. This week I’m also building a raised worm bed. All of these things are for applying once the plants are big enough to be transplanted outside.

I’m hoping now with these fixes they start smiling again, it’s 1 Tangie and 4 Strawberry Shortcake seeds so I really don’t want to loose these genetics. This budget gorilla grow is tricky but I’ll get it tuned in even if it kills me ����
 

unnamedmike

Well-known member
Veteran
Hi(an update) I’ve just repotted them very carefully into new pots with a medium of 50% mild out of the bag potting mix 50% perlite and no wood chips. The wood chips were from an Eco lodge my wife works at.

I’m used to growing in dry conditions like South Australia and Northern California but I’ve recently moved to Central America where it’s warm and humid all year round which is proving to be tricky. I’m growing out doors but vegging for the first part inside. To be honest I’ve never had such slow growth and root production, once they get outside they go great but that can take months to get them strong and big enough to handle the outside sun, I’m using bio rhizatonic for root stimulation but not having great results.

Other than repotting them the other issues I have rectified this week which should hopefully help and should have been done from the beginning has been replacing my bulb for the seedlings from a 25w CFL to an extra large 105w CFL, also you mentioned my PH and I finally tracked down a meter this week and my water was really high 7.5 to 8(not good).. I purchased some PH down so I am now feeding at 6.2/6.3.. the PH could be why I was having issues all along, I was told by a nieghbour he’d tested the water at 6.5 so I that’s why I didn’t stress about not having a PH meter. Finding equipment here in the tropics can be tricky and I have a new born so money for my grow is unfortunately strictly limited.

I’ve never seen mold on seedlings either but it did clear up when I treated it. The method of adding a layer of compacted soil was not my first choice it was because the stems needed support to stand straight but I can see now how that may of suffocated the roots but saying that only half of the seedlings had the added soil but all were showing the same signs of stress.

I have a 2000m2 piece of land so I’m working a couple of compost piles, I’m also making my own KNF liquid fertilizers and microorganism solutions which the plants love. This week I’m also building a raised worm bed. All of these things are for applying once the plants are big enough to be transplanted outside.

I’m hoping now with these fixes they start smiling again, it’s 1 Tangie and 4 Strawberry Shortcake seeds so I really don’t want to loose these genetics. This budget gorilla grow is tricky but I’ll get it tuned in even if it kills me ����


I also moved to South America years ago and it was difficult for me to adapt my gardener skills.
I dont like JADAM in indoor / growth, it is easy to introduce some pathogen (in my case soil fly, nematodes and aphids)


In case it helps you, my flow for seeds is:
1-Wash the seeds with soap and water,
2-immerse the seeds in H2O2 diluted with 1:1 h2o2:tap water.
3- 2 hours later I add water for 1:20 h2o2:h2o and there leave the seeds until show 1 cm of root.
4- sterilize a few liters of cococoir in a boiling pot. Once cold and in party cups, I leave the seeds in 2mm holes, the seed always visible.
5- Watering with mycorrhizae VAT (if you do not infect with something good, something will infect the roots, good or bad) and fertilizer for coconut.
6- the first 3 weeks keep them below 28ºC

I hope you find it useful, good luck! :tiphat:
 

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