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Security tips for cars/traffic stops

Fat Albert

Active member
Hey y'all,

My older brother is a sargeant in a big-city police force. Don't worry, he's a good guy. (though he knows *NOTHING* about my "hobby" LOL) He said that the day he retires he's going to smoke a joint; he's got 9 years to go! Anyway, he's shared numerous stories with me of traffic stops and how they can go wrong, so I figured that I'd do a small write-up of what I've heard from him. Here goes:


*Check ALL lights on the car before leaving!
Have a friend walk around the car while you sit inside, turning on headlights, parking lights, turn signals, brake lights, etc. If you have auxillary lights, such as fog lamps, and one is burnt out, turn the other one off! They're not necessary for travel, and while you can't get pulled over for a burnt-out fog light, the asymmetry of your light pattern WILL be noticed by the cops. Driving with a broken reflector, even if the bulb works, is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED!

*Make sure that you have no outstanding warrants or reasons for you to be taken into custody if you are detained and your name is run through the computer.

*Obey ALL rules of the road and traffic signals. Resist the urge to blast Cypress Hill at 120 db. Duh!

*IF YOU ARE PULLED OVER:

*Stop IMMEDIATELY. Cops don't like it if you keep driving, even if it's for a little bit. ONLY continue driving if there is no safe place to pull over where you currently are.

*Take your keys out of the ignition, roll down your window, and PUT YOUR KEYS ON THE ROOF OF YOUR CAR. This will reassure the cop that you don't have your foot on the gas and your hand on the gearshift, waiting to floor it.

*Keep your hands on the steering wheel or otherwise in view of the cop AT ALL TIMES! AT ALL TIMES! AT ALL TIMES! You know who YOU are and what you are capable or not capable of doing. A cop who pulls you over, especially at night, has no such reassurances. Unfortunately, for any cop their next traffic stop may be their last. Their threat/response level is in overdrive when they pull anybody over, since people have gunned down cops during a traffic stop in broad daylight. You want to do everything you can to assuage the cop that you are not a threat to them.

****Keep your registration, license, and insurance in your driver's side visor****
When the cop asks, it's a matter of flipping down your visor and handing them these items in one fell swoop. FACT: while drunks and stoners are FUMBLING AROUND IN THEIR GLOVE COMPARTMENT, CENTER CONSOLE, ETC., THE COPS ARE TAKING A DETAILED VISUAL INVENTORY OF THE INSIDE OF THEIR CAR!!!!
I can't stress this point enough! You don't want to give them time to stand there and stare inside your car!!!!

*Keep all incriminating items in the trunk of your car! DO NOT SMOKE IN THE CAR AT ANY TIME!!!!! Keep your ashtrays free of roaches or telltale ashes!

*If you're traveling with companions, MAKE SURE YOUR ALIBIS MATCH! Ships have been sunk SO MANY TIMES by people who are acting nervous and whose stories don't match each other's.

*Lastly, BE COURTEOUS, POLITE, and RESPECTFUL. The proper salutation is "Officer" or "Sir." Although some cops may not be "Sirs" you have to show them respect! So many people DON'T, that when the select few DO, the cops will oftentimes return that respect to you. Kill them with kindness, because they almost never experience that (through fault or no fault of their own) If you DID roll through a stop sign, fail to use a turn signal, ADMIT IT! Admit it, and APOLOGIZE! The line that's NEVER failed me is "I'm sorry, Officer; I realize I did not make a full stop. You have every right to give me a ticket, and I apologize." NEVER ONCE have I received a ticket when I am polite, contrite, and calm. If you're humble and cooperative, your chances for driving away in one piece are greatly increased.

I hope this info can be of use to people here. If anyone can think of anything that I missed, please feel free to post a reply.

Stay safe and sound, people!
Fat A :wave:
 

redbone

Member
Excellent Advice, Fat!

Excellent Advice, Fat!

Also, if you have a criminal record let somebody else drive. The only time I ever came close to being busted was when I was driving and smoking in the car. (Stupid, but I was really, really young.) He must have seen me from an overpass and I was driving an Audi which was real exotic back then so I guess he thought he'd stop me and see what it was all about. I know he smelled it on me and I was less than cordial when he stopped me. When he "ran" my license it came up suspended for non payment of parking tickets so I had to go down to the station and have someone come get me. The officer was pissed because he knew I had something on me but since I had no warrants and was female he had to get permission from the desk Sargeant to search me and impound the car.
As we were leaving I snatched the bag out of the ashtray (bad move)and put it in my pocket. So here I am sitting in the station with a fucking dime bag of reefer in my pocket waiting to get picked up. The officers at the station all knew I had something on me from the way I was sweating and they started teasing me asking me if I needed to use the bathroom. As I got up to go I saw a female officer go in ahead of me and spun around like a top. That made everbody laugh out loud.
Long story short, it was close call. I was happy to provide the afternoon's entertainment.
 

omega7

Member
Very good info. Id like to add that remebering the cops name and using "trooper ___" I was told this by a cop. And also never ever ever ever ever consent to a search! Even if he says he smells something.
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
Veteran
Good stuff maynard. Couple of follow ups.

Know your laws and politely state them when asked to break them by the officer. IE, in my state because of all the racial profiling they have made it illegal for an officer to ask to search the vehicle without any probable cause. The officer must state the probable cause first and then ask for consent to search. Without probable cause they arent even allowed to ask to search the car.

If pulled over at night put your inside lights on before putting the hands on the wheel so the officer can clearly see inside that you have nothing to hide. If youre driving with shit in plain view then you deserve the experience.

If you had a beer you can bet a sober officer is going to be able to smell it, fess up and do the tests and hope you pass as its better than lying to the guy when he can tell the obvious.

Some officers will cut you a break if they think you have military or some official background when you address them by rank, 2 stripes on the arm is Lieutenant and 3 is for Sergeants.

Last but not least everyone should know their complete driving and criminal background from the age 18 on up since this is what they will be looking at when they go back to the squad car and run your information. They dont just go back a few years they look at the whole thing.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
You mean we should treat them like human beings that are out pulling their shift to feed the family? Wow, what a concept.

The keys on the roof of the car is a new idea to me, and I will do that if I ever get pulled over again. All your other advice was given to me by my brother in law who was a small town cop for years. It really amazed me that I had never tried to view the perspective of the cop as a guy doing a job which includes dealing with some really egregious assholes 48 out of 50 hours every week, week after week.
 
G

Guest

Pythagllio said:
The keys on the roof of the car is a new idea to me, and I will do that if I ever get pulled over again.

I've never heard of this before, to me it seems that if you are pulled over and do that, that would leave the impression to the officer that you are a pro at being stopped, or maybe too eager to create an air of safety and cooperation. I always immediately pull over, roll down both the driver and rear driverside windows and put both hands on the wheel though. Police do not like tints.
 

Fat Albert

Active member
Good feedback, everybody!

I agree that being overly cooperative is likely to arouse suspicion. I doubt that anybody is going to greet a cop with a smile when they get pulled over. Being overly cooperative would involve something like volunteering information, which you should never do. This list is merely to help someone get their shit in order, so that if they DO get stopped, they're ready for it. There's nothing worse than seeing blue in your rearview mirror and realizing that you're not prepared to get stopped.

Putting one's keys on the roof of the car is relatively new, and may be more applicable in some situations than others. It's a good move if you're stopped in a rural area and there's little to no traffic, if you're not the only one in your car (or if the number of people in your car is greater than the amount of officers present), or if it's dark. Since traffic stops usually involve at least one of these conditions, it's generally a good idea.

Cheers!
Fat A :wave:
 
J

Jam Master Jaco

Great rules Fat A, I can stand by the "apologize to the cop" rule. I've heard a lot of "DON'T RAT YOURSELF OUT!!!! THEY CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING!!! AHHHH!!!" but kindness and sympathy will always be for the better.

You really have to look at it from the cops point of view. They are a human being who decided to make a living for themself by doing a job. That job is to enforce the law, and although some of the laws are ridiculous, you have to respect the fact that they're out their risking their life to keep the real criminals off the street.

Here's my own personal set of rules that I follow when I'm out in public:
1. Don't stand out from the crowd. So you just went online and bought yourself an IC mag t-shirt eh? Well congratulations, but my advice to you is DO NOT WEAR IT IN PUBLIC! If you wear a shirt with a weed leaf on it guess what everyone is gonna label you as? A pothead. I realize that it's kinda lame that some people will judge you based on your appearance and not your personality, but that's life buddy.

2. Flow with traffic. If you're driving on the freeway with a pack of cars around you that are going too fast/too slow...stay with them. Don't put yourself ahead of the pack or behind the pack, try to get in the middle of them and blend right on in.

Uhh that's all I can think of at the moment, but by following the golden rule of "don't stand out" I haven't had any run ins with the cops over the past few yars, so I know I'm doing something right. :joint:
 

Xtbudda

Member
Never admit anything and be careful, when they turn the questions around,as you might admit something without knowing it. If you get a pro and they are rapid firing questions, ask that they repeat the question.
I was doing just a tad over 150kms on a bike (last ride of season), seen the traffic c*p vehicle just in time, and I locked up everything, downshifted, front brake and rear brake and got it down to 80kms as I sailed by. I tried my lame stuck choke story, didn't work, as he had the biker boots on(my luck). Back then the cop had to hit the lock on the radar gun, I had decelerated so fast, that by the time he hit the lock it was at 96kms. He had another cop sitting beside him and he did ever thing for me to admit to doing over 150kms and I told him, I was paying attention to the road due to my stuck choke. We had a tiff over him calling me Sonny but then I had to clam up, as I had a fiver of oil in my sock.
He had me red handed, but I never admitted jack, the rookie beside him was amused because I was pissing the senior cop off. I still got a whopper ticket as I was doing a 96km in a 50km. Had he nailed me at 100kms even, I would have lost my license for 30days, huge fine, and then prove why i needed a license.
Like I said it was the last ride of the season and the road looked perfect to pull that stint, except i was wrong.
Xtbudda...
 
J

Jam Master Jaco

Xtbudda said:
Never admit anything and be careful, when they turn the questions around,as you might admit something without knowing it. If you get a pro and they are rapid firing questions, ask that they repeat the question.
I was doing just a tad over 150kms on a bike (last ride of season), seen the traffic c*p vehicle just in time, and I locked up everything, downshifted, front brake and rear brake and got it down to 80kms as I sailed by. I tried my lame stuck choke story, didn't work, as he had the biker boots on(my luck). Back then the cop had to hit the lock on the radar gun, I had decelerated so fast, that by the time he hit the lock it was at 96kms. He had another cop sitting beside him and he did ever thing for me to admit to doing over 150kms and I told him, I was paying attention to the road due to my stuck choke. We had a tiff over him calling me Sonny but then I had to clam up, as I had a fiver of oil in my sock.
He had me red handed, but I never admitted jack, the rookie beside him was amused because I was pissing the senior cop off. I still got a whopper ticket as I was doing a 96km in a 50km. Had he nailed me at 100kms even, I would have lost my license for 30days, huge fine, and then prove why i needed a license.
Like I said it was the last ride of the season and the road looked perfect to pull that stint, except i was wrong.
Xtbudda...

Well that's a good point. So excuse what I said ealier about admit to EVERYTHING. I meant to say was, admit everything EXCEPT the obvious, which is telling him/her that you have weed on you.

*edit* but bro, you can't get too mad at the cops...you gave them a very good reason to pull you over.
 

Xtbudda

Member
Jam Master Jaco said:
*edit* but bro, you can't get too mad at the cops...you gave them a very good reason to pull you over.
Hey, I'm not mad at the c*ps, I deserved it.
Whenever I pull stunts like that, I try to assess the situation to make sure I wont get hurt and/or get caught. I have an imaginary coin when i do that and if I loose, I deserve it.
I still got the better edge because I spotted them. This city had a distinctive yellow colored traffic vehicles, I spotted the pillar strip near the front windshield, that runs from the body to the top of the roof. They had the vehicle parked on a side road, and hedges hid the body of the car and overhanging tree branches hid the top cherries and the top of the car. When I seen that strip, I knew I was burnt.
Because he was trying to lock onto my highest speed, by the time i spotted him and locked her up, he couldn't hit it fast enough.
I was more pissed cuz he kept calling me Sonny and I was calling him Sir, three bags full Sir and I asked that he not call me Sonny as I am not his son. ......
When I left the vehicle, he gives me 2 tickets and goes' Heres two tickets to the ball, Sonny", so I go, "hopefully, you wont be there"............
I wanted so bad to say "hopefully, you won't be there asshole"
Xtbudda...
 

The Bling

Member
You get pulled over roll down your window 3 inches just enough to talk to the officer and hand him your info this way he cant stick his nose in your car and smell anything
You:Officer why did you pull me over?
Officer:do you know how fast you were going?
You:...
Officer:Ok do you have anything illegal in the car
You: No officer
Officer:Step out of the car
you :why officer?
then step out of the car and LOCK the car
Officer: why did you lock the car
you:Habbit.
Officer: Give me your keys.
You: Not to be dissrespectfull officer I know you're doing your job but I DO NOT CONSENT TO ANY SEARCHES.
the officer will try and scare you by saying he can call in a warrent or the K-9 unit dont respond to him In all likely hood he'll stomp off to his car and return with your ticket i just used speeding as an example remember you dont have to answer an officers questions you still have your rights and because you never admited to the speeding now you can contest it in court

and if your the type of person who needs to carry a scale to check the weight of your meds keep it in a sealed postmarked envelope.
 
J

Jam Master Jaco

The Bling said:
You get pulled over roll down your window 3 inches just enough to talk to the officer and hand him your info this way he cant stick his nose in your car and smell anything
You:Officer why did you pull me over?
Officer:do you know how fast you were going?
You:...
Officer:Ok do you have anything illegal in the car
You: No officer
Officer:Step out of the car
you :why officer?
then step out of the car and LOCK the car
Officer: why did you lock the car
you:Habbit.
Officer: Give me your keys.
You: Not to be dissrespectfull officer I know you're doing your job but I DO NOT CONSENT TO ANY SEARCHES.
the officer will try and scare you by saying he can call in a warrent or the K-9 unit dont respond to him In all likely hood he'll stomp off to his car and return with your ticket i just used speeding as an example remember you dont have to answer an officers questions you still have your rights and because you never admited to the speeding now you can contest it in court

and if your the type of person who needs to carry a scale to check the weight of your meds keep it in a sealed postmarked envelope.

Sorry bro, but I have to disagree.
1. If you roll down your window a few inches to talk to the cop, you're basically saying. "Hey man I've got some illegal shit in here, keep your ass outta here" And that's going to piss the cop off.
2. Now that the cop is pissed off he/she is going to check for any little tiny thing they can bust you for. And shit, they can pull something right out of their ass and arrest you for it. For example, if you are believed to be destroying evidence a cop can search you without a warrant. So all the cop has to do to pull you out of the car is say "hey, it looks like he just swallowed something/ripped a piece of paper/through something on the ground of your car etc. and they will search you.
*edit* (I edited out the stupid little scenario I orginally had in this post, it didn't even make sense to the argument):moon:

:2cents:
 
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hoyt

Member
here are some VERY valuable tips im about to give you (I MEAN VERY):

ive been stopped AND PATTED DOWN with weed on me, but the cops never found anything! i suggest all you males invest in boxer briefs. all you need to do is put the <insertdrughere> in your underwear, because cops cant feel around in your pants, unless you're in an extreme case (the cop smelling weed is not one of them). you should be able to fit around a half an ounce. keep the <insertdrughere> easily reachable as the cop can see you or your shadow in the rear window.(somtimes even reachin in your pocket could raise some eyebrows!(deep pockets))

other tips:
when you see a cop in your rearview, which you should, because you're driving (check EVERYTHING for your own sake, not just legal issues, but staying out of car wrecks too), start taking action. roll down your windows COMPLETELY, if they arent already down (which they should be partly down (i hate smoking with the windows completly down, its hard to get a nice hit off the weed, but with the windows at least cracked an inch or so it helps the smell a lot)) to help rid the smell. if you're smoking at that moment, crack the windows at first so a huge cloud of smoke doesnt fly out your car! next, turn on your ac/heater on full blast and leave it there(see below)! if you are actually being pulled over, dont IMMEDIATELY pull over, drive a very small distance (not too far as to get noticed) after the lights are on to even more aerate your car. lastly, roll up the back windows to trap the good air freshner smell in.

-install an air freshner ON your car heater/ac vents! it should help out A LOT with the smell. I MEAN A LOT! they make air freshners that fit or clip or somethin to your vents in your car. some of my friends even carry somethin called 'ozone' i think. its very potent, a quick tap spray should nuetralize/smell up your whole car!

best of luck! with these tips...you CANT get caught! ride dirty all day!

btw ridin n smokin is my favorite thing to do! medicate to scenery!
 
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M

Mr. Nevermind

Make sure you have on Ice-T's "cop killer" playing loud on your stereo, make sure you are wearing a "born to die" t shirt, have a few empties in the back seat and a pack of ez widers on your dash. Should have no worries




nevermind



sorry i am high and felt like posting silliness
 
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