Security question about heat and electric

[green michine]

Hi guys, i haven't been here for years but now im back. I was curious about police checking electric bills. I want to use a 400w but i just read an old post in another forum that police might check electric bills. And worried about heat. My last grow was 6 years ago, maybe a bit longer (u can check my history on this site if you want to see, i grew the SAGE). So im curious if any laws or techniques the police use have changed? Im hoping to use 400w hps in a grow tent. So any advice would really help. Oh, and im gonna try grow BUD BUD BLING TINGZ, there meant to be good seeds.

 

[watts]

Don't worry, 400w is nothin.

 

[Drop That Sound]

Electricity: The average PC, including the one you might even be on, only uses 4-600 watts at full cpu operation so good there.

Heat: 400 watt bulb, in a tent and in a house, surely won't register to a FLIR device as out of the ordinary. I'd be more worried about it hurting the plants if not using a good enough exhaust system, or orange HPS lighting up a window in plain site, etc.

However, if you use a digital ballast make sure it has an RF filter so your not blasting EM interference across town, the po's have been known to use there cars stock AM radios to triangulate the static sounding noise right back to your tent. Or cable guys trying to find out why your neighbors tv is going crazy..

 

[green michine]

Thanks guys i very much appreciate it. Im looking forward to the grow now, but ill be careful not to burn the plants. Thanks

 

[Granger2]

There are millions of electric space heaters running at 1500w. Don't sweat 400w. Good luck. -granger

 

[green michine]

There are millions of electric space heaters running at 1500w. Don't sweat 400w. Good luck. -granger

Thanks granger.

 

[angelgoob]

I hear they look for 12/12 cycles. Anybody hear that?

 

[Jhhnn]

Hi guys, i haven't been here for years but now im back. I was curious about police checking electric bills. I want to use a 400w but i just read an old post in another forum that police might check electric bills. And worried about heat. My last grow was 6 years ago, maybe a bit longer (u can check my history on this site if you want to see, i grew the SAGE). So im curious if any laws or techniques the police use have changed? Im hoping to use 400w hps in a grow tent. So any advice would really help. Oh, and im gonna try grow BUD BUD BLING TINGZ, there meant to be good seeds.

If you don't have the light & you're willing to pay more, 315w Philips CDM systems are terrific. They'll outgrow any 400w system at much lower power consumption & less heat. The low frequency ballasts don't cause RF interference & the pure white light won't draw unwanted attention if it escapes around the blinds or curtains. Lamps last much longer.

The cops are still the cops. At 400w, snitches & odor control are your biggest issues.

 

[MJPassion]

I hear they look for 12/12 cycles. Anybody hear that?

Smart meters are being used these days.
Should be a thread about them somewhere.

 

[Drop That Sound]

These days a guy can hardly afford an mri or xray, I wonder how much it costs them to get an imaging done on your house? Probably not worth pursuing a 400 watt run even if they did IMO. They cant open a chained or gated driveway to snoop or sniff without a warrant. Snitches are a fact of life, always know your rights, never consent to a search, always prepare for the worst case, and keep your mouth closed, can never really know who will rat you out even years down the road, could be an ex or even your own mom. I see icmag as the only place to talk to people these days, or buddies with there own garden (although that could be bad too). Seems we all know the unspoken rule here, even if we don't agree all the time..

Honestly though 400 watts isn't anything to them, they probably know(not talking about the law enforcement office). Every device operates on a frequency and its true smart meters surely could pick up on that if equipped. You can send wifi through lightbulbs these days, right through your home wiring. Thats just the tip of the iceburg + All speakers are the same thing as a microphone. I still wouldn't worry though, I don't. Only through fear can they control you

 

[Jhhnn]

These days a guy can hardly afford an mri or xray, I wonder how much it costs them to get an imaging done on your house? Probably not worth pursuing a 400 watt run even if they did IMO. They cant open a chained or gated driveway to snoop or sniff without a warrant. Snitches are a fact of life, always know your rights, never consent to a search, always prepare for the worst case, and keep your mouth closed, can never really know who will rat you out even years down the road, could be an ex or even your own mom. I see icmag as the only place to talk to people these days, or buddies with there own garden (although that could be bad too). Seems we all know the unspoken rule here, even if we don't agree all the time..

Honestly though 400 watts isn't anything to them, they probably know(not talking about the law enforcement office). Every device operates on a frequency and its true smart meters surely could pick up on that if equipped. You can send wifi through lightbulbs these days, right through your home wiring. Thats just the tip of the iceburg + All speakers are the same thing as a microphone. I still wouldn't worry though, I don't. Only through fear can they control you

Thermal imaging is consumer grade hardware-

http://www.flir.com/flirone/ios-android/

 

[Drop That Sound]

I would love to have a thermal imaging device, for security as well as a gardening tool. Waiting though until newer technology is sold at a competitive consumer price...

 

[Drop That Sound]

I built a laser listening device for like 5 dollars way over 10 years ago, bouncing the the beam off a window 100 feet away and back into a cheap photo cell sensor, then using audacity and a program to change the light waves from the windows vibration back into sound. If i could do that then for almost nothing, imagine what big bro can do now!

 

[Drop That Sound]

I also believe they can use chemtrails as a medium to bounce radar off of, to image and map things out... but do'nt take my word for it I must be a tin hat nut. Anyone that uses IR blocking sheets in there grow rooms to protect their plants, but not wear tinfoil hats to protect their brain waves must be one too lol

 

[St. Phatty]

I also believe they can use chemtrails as a medium to bounce radar off of, to image and map things out... but do'nt take my word for it I must be a tin hat nut.

That is exactly the primary purpose of chemtrails.

Back in the 1980's I interviewed with one of the companies that made some of the communications hardware for related work.

In that case, they were bouncing a signal off the ionosphere.

But they needed something closer - and as much bandwidth as possible.


If you look at an RF or microwave handbook, that describes both the transmission lines in your cell phone - and bigger transmission lines involving some chemtrails.

Basically, they lay down materials that temporarily create transmission lines floating in air. Then they blast RF through it, to test their creation - to see how it would perform in a military conflict.

The floating circuit doesn't last long - a few seconds.


The materials they use are not known for their health benefits.

 

[Drop That Sound]

I also believe the ancients were far more advanced than we can even comprehend. And that all the ruins, pyramids, catacombs, cymatic configurations of rocks, and many artifacts, etc resemble all of our technology today.

Our consumer junk ends up in a landfill within a few years. Theirs lasts forever unless trashed by other people. I think they may have found a way to be transported somewhere (like the mayans who dissapeared without a trace), and then other people came in and took over, and pretended that they built it for their own selfish reasons.

The ruins, before they were disfigured and made dis-functional, look just like printed circuit boards or energy capturing devices, but on a grand scale. Quartz stones can hold info just like our hard rives do.

They could (or have hundred of slaved people) ping long stones to make them ring and resonate certain frequencies, and also used perfectly carved vortex stones and could modulate the frequencies. Imagine thousands of people in an amphitheater banging rocks while sitting in a parabolic dish shaped seating arrangement, and the stage itself the focal point (just like a satellite dish), with higher up rulers on stage holding vortex stones that light up and make them appear as gods... or better yet levitating them, and building blocks, etc.

Seriously they want us to grow pot and worry about the plants and their consequences, not the fact that what I say might be the truth.