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Secret Societies

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dreamdancer

A secret society is an organization that conceals its activities and membership from outsiders. The term "secret society" is also often used by the general public to describe a wide range of organizations that do not fit this definition, such as collegiate fraternities and fraternal organizations that may have non-public ceremonies. It also includes organizations described in conspiracy theories.

Overview

Historically, secret societies have been the subject of suspicion and speculation from non-members since the time of the ancient Greeks, when meetings were held "sub rosa" (Latin, "under the rose"). This phrase arises from the fact that the rose was the emblem of the god Horus in ancient Egypt[citation needed]. Later the Greeks and Romans regarded Horus as god of silence. This originates from a Greek/Roman misinterpretation of an Egyptian hieroglyphic adopting Horus along with Isis and Osiris as a god. The Greeks translated his Egyptian name Har-pa-khered to Harpocrates. The rose's connotation for secrecy also dates back to Greek mythology. Aphrodite gave a rose to her son Eros, the god of love; he, in turn, gave it to Harpocrates, the god of silence, to ensure that his mother's indiscretions (or those of the gods in general, in other accounts) were kept under wraps. In the Middle Ages a rose suspended from the ceiling of a council chamber pledged all present (those under the rose) to secrecy.[1] Today the phrases "Sub Rosa" and "under the rose" are commonly used to indicate secrecy.

Since some secret societies have political aims, they are illegal in several countries. Poland has made the ban of secret political parties and political organizations a part of its constitution.

Many student societies established on university campuses have been considered secret societies. These such collegiate secret societies are like the Flat Hat Club (1750) and Phi Beta Kappa (1776), both founded at William & Mary. The most famous member of the FHC was Thomas Jefferson, the third President of the United States. In correspondence, Jefferson noted that the Flat Hat Club served "no useful object." The nation's prestigious universities and liberal arts colleges are home to secret societies today. See List of collegiate secret societies. Perhaps one of the most famous secret college societies is the Skull and Bones club, of which both president George W. Bush and Senator John Kerry are members from their college years. The Skull and Bones Club is rumored to be a secret white supremist organization. However, if this once was true, it clearly no longer is, as there have been minority and homosexual members in recent years. It is rumored that some members of the Skull and Bones Club receive membership because of family connections. Many former members of it have gone on to have wealthy and powerful careers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_societies
 

Dr Dog

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ok?
I think we all know about secret societies, what is the point
this post would be alot more impressive if it was not plagiarized from the Wiki entry much like the one below

Plagiarism (from the Latin plagiare, "to kidnap") is the practice of claiming, or implying, original authorship of (or incorporating material from) someone else's written or creative work, in whole or in part, into one's own without adequate acknowledgement. Unlike cases of forgery, in which the authenticity of the writing, document, or some other kind of object, itself is in question, plagiarism is concerned with the issue of false attribution. Plagiarism can also occur unconsciously; in some cultures certain forms of plagiarism are accepted because the concept can be interpreted differently.
 
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I am the Grand Poobah of the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos,all others bow before me.
 

10k

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Dr Dog,
Its not very fair to accuse dreamdancer of plagiarism.
I dont see any plagiarism being done by dreamdancer. He hasnt written anything or attempted to make us think he wrote it. All he did was post a copy&paste from wikipedia, and he included the reference link to boot.

Now, totally biased as wiki is, I am not suprised to read their views.
The skull & bones is just another high horse college fraternity from all I've read.
Tin foil hats anyone ?

How ya been dreamdancer, hope all is well :wave:
 
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If you're being honest with us and he's being honest with you,he will eventually have to kill you..
 

dbuzz

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dreamdancer

hiya 10k, i'm fine and dandy - hope all is well with you :rasta:

a little more background info as we delve deeper into the mysteries of the secret societies of the world...

The Bavarian Illuminati have cast a long shadow in popular history thanks to the writings of their opponents; the allegations of conspiracy that have coloured the image of the Freemasons have practically opaqued that of the Illuminati. In 1797, Abbé Augustin Barruél published Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism outlining a vivid conspiracy theory involving the Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians, the Jacobins and the Illuminati, during the course of which Barruél blamed all of what he regarded as the disasters of his times such as the French Revolution on the said groups.[citation needed] A Scottish Mason and professor of natural history named John Robison started to publish Proofs of a Conspiracy Against all the Religions and Governments of Europe in 1798. Robison claimed to present evidence of an Illuminati conspiracy striving to replace all world religions with humanism and all nations with a single world government.[citation needed]

More recently, Antony C. Sutton suggested that the secret society Skull and Bones was founded as the American branch of the Illuminati.[8] Others think Scroll and Key also had Illuminati origins.[citation needed] Writer Robert Gillette claimed that the Illuminati ultimately intend to establish a world government through assassination, bribery, blackmail, the control of banks and other financial powers, the infiltration of governments, mind control, and by causing wars and revolution to move their own people into higher positions in the political hierarchy.[citation needed]Thomas Jefferson, on the other hand, claimed they intended to spread information and the principles of true morality. He attributed the secrecy of the Illuminati to what he called "the tyranny of a despot and priests" referring to the governments and religious beliefs of the time.[citation needed]

Both sides seem to agree that the enemies of the Illuminati were the monarchs of Europe and the Church; Barruél claimed that the French revolution in 1789 was engineered and controlled by the Illuminati through the Jacobins, and later theorists even claimed that the Illuminati were responsible for the Russian Revolution of 1917, although the order was officially defunct prior to 1789.[citation needed] Few historians give credence to these views; they regard such claims as the products of over-fertile imaginations.[citation needed]Conspiracy theorists highlight an alleged link between the Illuminati and Freemasonry.[citation needed] They also suggest that the United States' founding fathers—some of whom were Freemasons—were rife with corruption from the Illuminati, and that the symbols of the All-seeing Eye and the unfinished pyramid in the Great Seal of the United States are an example of the Illuminati's ever-present watchful eye over Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
 

Dr Dog

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I was not slamming dreamdancer with his method of obtaining info, but I have access to wikipedia like everyone else does and can do research anytime I wish
My issue is who cares? find something relevant, secret societies have been around forever and will continue.
I much prefer Dreamdancers posts on marijuana based topics, not just parts of general stuff that can be found anywhere. I have responded to dream dancers posts before that I found interesting, this one I did not.
 

Verite

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KharmaGirl said:
What's with the multiple threads daily all of a sudden?


No shizzle, whats with the diarrhetic harbinger of doom theme you got going on?
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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....if I told you what secret society I was a member of......then it would'nt be secret any more.....shhhhhh.
 
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These people don't want to hear about this stuff dreamdancer. They are far too happy with their shopping malls and SUV's to worry about some secret society they've never heard of. The truth is, this is NOT an enlightened cannabis community. Contrary to popular belief, most people even in the cannabis community would STILL prefer to have their head in the sand. They do NOT want this information to pass freely to the rest of the world, and they do NOT want anyone to do anything about it. As far as they are concerned they got the SUV, big screen TV, and shopping malls while these secret societies ran things from behind the scenes, so most people are just cool with it.
 

AnotherName

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One thing i've never noticed mentioned in all the conspiracy theory/zeitgiest/secret societies are masons. They are out there. I've met a few. A drunk mason friend once mention 7 u.s. presidents were masons. Head mason is price charles? Anyone else know about these guys?
 
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dreamdancer

The origins and early development of Freemasonry are a matter of some debate and conjecture. There is some evidence to suggest that there were Masonic Lodges in existence in Scotland as early as the late sixteenth century,[3] and clear references to their existence in England by the mid seventeenth century.[4] A poem known as "The Regius Manuscript" has been dated to approximately 1390 CE and is the oldest known Masonic text.[5]

The first Grand Lodge, the Grand Lodge of England (GLE), was founded on 24 June 1717, when four existing London Lodges met for a joint dinner. This rapidly expanded into a regulatory body, which most English Lodges joined. However, a few lodges resented some of the modernisations that GLE endorsed, such as the creation of the Third Degree, and formed a rival Grand Lodge on 17 July 1751, which they called the "Antient Grand Lodge of England". The two competing Grand Lodges vied for supremacy - the "Moderns" (GLE) and the "Ancients" (or "Antients") - until they united 25 November 1813 to form the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE).

The Grand Lodges of Ireland and Scotland were formed in 1725 and 1736 respectively. Freemasonry was exported to the British Colonies in North America by the 1730s - with both the "Ancients" and the "Moderns" (as well as the Grand Lodges of Ireland and Scotland) chartering offspring ("daughter") Lodges, and organising various Provincial Grand Lodges. After the American Revolution, independent U.S. Grand Lodges formed themselves within each State. Some thought was briefly given to organising an over-arching "Grand Lodge of the United States", with George Washington as the first Grand Master, but the idea was short-lived. The various State Grand Lodges did not wish to diminish their own authority by agreeing to such a body.[6]

Although there are no real differences in the Freemasonry practiced by lodges chartered by the Ancients or the Moderns, the remnants of this division can still be seen in the names of most Lodges, F.& A.M. being Free and Accepted Masons and A.F.& A.M. being Antient Free and Accepted Masons.

The oldest jurisdiction on the continent of Europe, the Grand Orient de France (GOdF), was founded in 1728. Most English-speaking jurisdictions cut formal relations with the GOdF around 1877, however, when the GOdF removed the requirement that its members have a belief in Deity, and accepted atheists.[7] The Grande Loge Nationale Française (GLNF)[8] is currently the only French Grand Lodge that is in regular amity with the UGLE and its many concordant jurisdictions worldwide.

Due to the above history, Freemasonry is often said to consist of two branches not in mutual regular amity:

the UGLE and concordant tradition of jurisdictions (termed Grand Lodges) in amity, and
the GOdF, European Continental, tradition of jurisdictions (often termed Grand Orients) in amity.
In most Latin countries, the GOdF-style of European Continental Freemasonry predominates, although in most of these Latin countries there are also Grand Lodges that are in regular amity with the UGLE and the worldwide community of Grand Lodges that share regular "fraternal relations" with the UGLE. The rest of the world, accounting for the bulk of Freemasonry, tends to follow more closely to the UGLE style, although minor variations exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
 

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