Sea Solids make plants EXPLODE in hydro!!

[Brother_Monk]

I know this is not a considerable contribution to this thread, but it is all I have room for at the moment. I cut back on the sea solids, and the test plant is thriving. But there seems to be not much difference between the two. I took cuts from each, about a week ago. So now, they should each have about the same amount of tops for flowering. Which began today at lights on.

Sea Solids in the back. Control in the front.

 

[TheOneWill]

Are you still using PBP and the sea solids? Or you justing using sea solids now.

 

[Brother_Monk]

If you were referring to my experiment....I am using Fox Farm Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. But these have not recieved any food except what is in the soil so far. As soon as they start to show deficiency, I will feed them. The medium is exactly the same in each(FFOF) except the one with the Sea Solids. At first I used too much Sea Solids, so I'm trying again, with the recommended amount. Thanks orsirica for correcting my mistake.

 

[osirica420]

day 57 around .. took a few down today will post some harvest pics...

Hazes a few other still got a few weeks..

Pics of Endless sky , sweet tooth , Sour Cream (ECSDxG13HAZE)

Half the branches(biggest ones) on the endless sky fell over due to
weight so fully plant can't be seen....

Testing has been started on clones also...

 

[sunnydog]

day 57 around .. took a few down today will post some harvest pics...

Hazes a few other still got a few weeks..

Pics of Endless sky , sweet tooth , Sour Cream (ECSDxG13HAZE)

Half the branches(biggest ones) on the endless sky fell over due to
weight so fully plant can't be seen....

Testing has been started on clones also...

Nice plants.

 

[dirtyshawa]

osirica420, good shit, bra. i was looking for a natural nutrient program. i just read most of the thread and i'm impressed. A, fuck the haters, just use their negativity as motivation. it's funny to me, because, i see people bringing negativity to your door, but, your plants look healthy and vibrant. the proof is in the pudding. i have a question for you though. i'm about to start my first hydro grow. i have the waterfarm 8 pack and gh nutes, but, i want to use your nute regimen. i'm new at this, so, could you give me the recipe schedule from veg to flush for lets say a 8wk strain? also, what 100% organic substitute do you recommend i use in place of pbp? thanks for this thread it is indeed serving it's purpose.

 

[osirica420]

hey bro i will write something up..
will post some harvest pics too

 

[Whatever]

osirica420, good shit, bra. i was looking for a natural nutrient program. i just read most of the thread and i'm impressed. A, fuck the haters, just use their negativity as motivation. it's funny to me, because, i see people bringing negativity to your door, but, your plants look healthy and vibrant. the proof is in the pudding. i have a question for you though. i'm about to start my first hydro grow. i have the waterfarm 8 pack and gh nutes, but, i want to use your nute regimen. i'm new at this, so, could you give me the recipe schedule from veg to flush for lets say a 8wk strain? also, what 100% organic substitute do you recommend i use in place of pbp? thanks for this thread it is indeed serving it's purpose.

LMAO...I have not seen any 'haters' here...because someone questions something they're a 'hater'? I have not seen one person in this thread say you can not use whole natural sea salt or sea water to grow plants nor that whole natural sea salt or sea water does not provide some benefit. I have yet to see a third party analysis showing there's a product or process that selectively concentrates certain components of sea water...not one....and checked all the links so far. Only thing I've seen is these are sea salt and sea water products...and nothing wrong with that...just call things what they are.

 

[dirtyshawa]

osirica420, it would definitely be appreciated. i'm just amazed at how healthy your plants look. usually, when people do journals, no matter how much experience they have, their plants exhibit some sort of deficiency. i'm just amazed at your first hydro grow and how healthy your plants look, it's really amazing to me. i'm one of those perfectionist types, so, i have to have really healthy plants or it's really going to urk me. i believe in eating organics and stay in shape and all that, so, grooming my plants in this fashion is of high priority. thanks again for this thread.

LMAO...I have not seen any 'haters' here...because someone questions something they're a 'hater'? I have not seen one person in this thread say you can not use whole natural sea salt or sea water to grow plants nor that whole natural sea salt or sea water does not provide some benefit. I have yet to see a third party analysis showing there's a product or process that selectively concentrates certain components of sea water...not one....and checked all the links so far. Only thing I've seen is these are sea salt and sea water products...and nothing wrong with that...just call things what they are.

IF IT DOESN'T APPLY............LET IT FLY

 

[Whatever]

It does apply.

 

[dirtyshawa]

hi hater,
so, if your not hating what's your beef with him growing the way he wants to? it's working for him, so, why be jealous? stop being a hater. it's funny how bold people are when they're miles away from you. people like you take the fun out of informative threads like this. some people have limited knowledge about alternate organics and would like to be informed, but, here you come trying to blur the line. didn't your mother teach you, if you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

 

[Whatever]

hi hater,
so, if your not hating what's your beef with him growing the way he wants to? it's working for him, so, why be jealous? stop being a hater. it's funny how bold people are when they're miles away from you. people like you take the fun out of informative threads like this. some people have limited knowledge about alternate organics and would like to be informed, but, here you come trying to blur the line. didn't your mother teach you, if you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

LOL...I find this so amusing and typical of the responses I've gotten to posts of mine in this thread. I have no beef with him growing this way and don't think you'll go back through this thread and find any information to the contrary. Just questioned some of the information. Honestly...jealous of what? I think this thread is fun and cool to see someone thinking outside the box a bit. Blur what line? Alternative organics? What is that? If you want to talk about NATURAL and organics that's soil and not hydro. Duckweed is a natural hydro plant and so are water hyacinths. I've already accepted and admitted there's SOME value in applications of seawater/natural whole sea salt.

What my mother taught me was to question things...believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. If something can't withstand scrutiny it's not worth standing. I never said there's no value in using natural whole sea salt for growing a land based plant just what's the REAL value? I'm actually interested in knowing and glad to see someone dedicating grow space, time and energy to finding out.

I've worked in the health food industry for over 15 years, have looked through piles of studies, dealt directly and indirectly with natural whole sea salt products (from both deposits and evaporation ponds) for over 5 years, have dealt with laboratories and testing for over 15 years and numerous tests of sea salt products. My background is one of the reasons this thread caught my eye.

I've called and talked to some of the manufacturers/distributors of sea salt products for agriculture and none has yet substantiated some of their claims about the constitution of these products...which does not mean their products don't have value.

There's a book called Water and Salt, The Essence of Life authored by Barbara Hendel and Peter Ferreira that contains analytical information about Himalayan salt from a laboratory...that NEVER existed...LMAO...so I'm supposed to believe stuff that's published in some book?

Yup the pics he posted look great but have seen lots of pics posted from straight chem salt in hydro to 100% organic in soil and they looked great.

i believe in eating organics and stay in shape and all that, so, grooming my plants in this fashion is of high priority

If that's what you truly believe then grow 100% organics in soil...and yes along the ocean ocean spay/mist does affect things in a positive way.

usually, when people do journals, no matter how much experience they have, their plants exhibit some sort of deficiency

Really? What deficiencies do you see in these plants and can you tell which are GH salts in rockwool, AN salts in coco and 100% organic in soil?



LOL...the site wouldn't let me upload the pics properly for some reason but will add when the site will let me.

 

[dirtyshawa]

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF YOUR NOT HATING ON THAT MAN DISREGARD THE POST.

man, you're a drama queen............................whatever

 

[Brother_Monk]

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF YOUR NOT HATING ON THAT MAN DISREGARD THE POST.

man, you're a drama queen............................whatever

For real man! I second this! Go away already, and let the man do what he does. Why don't you just shut the fuck up and watch, instead of the "Look at me, I've been in the business for 15 years, so I must know what I'm talking about" bullshit! No one is interested in YOU, or trying to destroy this guys thread.

 

[Whatever]

"Look at me, I've been in the business for 15 years, so I must know what I'm talking about" bullshit!

The fact is I've been dealing professionally with sea salt (which encompasses mined, evaporated and also liquid products such as those from the Great Salt Lake) almost daily for about 5 years to the tune of tons so know a bit about the subject...that's not bullshit. My additional research has not been able to confirm some of the information in this thread. Manufacturers have not been able to support some of their claims, which seems like it should be an easy thing to do, about their products. I've been able to separate some of the fact from fiction to my satisfaction and could care less if it agrees or disagrees with what someone else believes or says...and as for hating...lol.

OK Brother Monk...I'll stop posting here.

 

[osirica420]

100% Organic Hydro Feeding Schedule... All OMRI Listed Plant food

Organa Guano organaponics.com

Combine Grow(called "add" on website) 2-0-0 & Bloom 0-2-0

Nitrozime 0 - 4 - 4
(bubble in a phd solution for 3-4 days and filter before adding
to reservoir, never use more then 3/4 strength this stuff its potent)

BUBBLE THE SEA MINERALS WITH THE NITROZIME!!!

Never run more then 2000 ppm of Sea Minerals along with these products..


use 500ppm sea mineral
1/4 dose of guano mix/nitrozime mix on seedlings

use 1000ppm sea mineral for grow
1/2 dose of guano mix/nitrozime mix on veggin .. go light on the organa bloom during this period

use 1500-2000ppm sea mineral for flower
1/2-3/5 dose of guano/nitrozime mix on mature flowering plants
also raise the amount of phosphorus/bloom by double in the begining and near the end...


Creat a mix of the Grow and Bloom, then add your Nitrozime and Sea Minerals to the mix after it
has been bubbled and then the complete tea can be added to the reservoir.

Also you going to want to flush the plant in phd water(5.5 its going to be hard to keep down check every few hours) every 6 days for around 24 hours to get rid of stored nutes,
or you could just go lighter on the NPK overall, this will help prevent any lockout that can happen...

I will be addin some updates very soon....
(very high when i wrote this, so any questions on this just let me know)

 

[dirtyshawa]

thanks for the info osirica420, it's very much appreciated.

okay, i have a few questions. i just bought the waterfarm 8-pack. as you probably know i have a single reservoir. how would i go about bubbling the nitrozime and sea minerals? can i cover and boil the solution and let it cool to room temp, then apply, i've done this with epson salt in soil and i could see my plants responding well to it? what brand of sea solids do you recommend? my last question is about the vegetative stage feeding schedule, if you look at your post i edited it to vaguely display a time frame, could you tell me if i'm correct? please, excuse the noobness, this is only my second grow and first hydro. thanks again for the info.

100% Organic Hydro Feeding Schedule... All OMRI Listed Plant food

Organa Guano organaponics.com

Combine Grow(called "add" on website) 2-0-0 & Bloom 0-2-0

Nitrozime 0 - 4 - 4
(bubble in a phd solution for 3-4 days and filter before adding
to reservoir, never use more then 3/4 strength this stuff its potent)

BUBBLE THE SEA MINERALS WITH THE NITROZIME!!!

Never run more then 2000 ppm of Sea Minerals along with these products..


use 500ppm sea mineral
1/4 dose of guano mix/nitrozime mix on seedlings

use 1000ppm sea mineral for grow
1/2 dose of guano mix/nitrozime mix on veggin .. go light on the organa bloom during this period at the starting of week 3 from seed

use 1500-2000ppm sea mineral for flower
1/2-3/5 dose of guano/nitrozime mix on mature flowering plants
also raise the amount of phosphorus/bloom by double in the begining and near the end...


Creat a mix of the Grow and Bloom, then add your Nitrozime and Sea Minerals to the mix after it
has been bubbled and then the complete tea can be added to the reservoir.

Also you going to want to flush the plant in phd water(5.5 its going to be hard to keep down check every few hours) every 6 days for around 24 hours to get rid of stored nutes,
or you could just go lighter on the NPK overall, this will help prevent any lockout that can happen...

I will be addin some updates very soon....
(very high when i wrote this, so any questions on this just let me know)

 

[Guest]

Yes I have questions.

What sea mineral product do you buy and use, exactly? Where can I order it?

How much sea mineral product should I add per gallon of water for use in soil? EXACTLY - tsp, tbsp, NOT ppms, please.

What is a "ph'd solution" that you are bubbling nitrozyme in?

I thought you were just using PBP and Sea Minerals? Your last post had guano and nitrozyme...

Not hating. Love your results. Willing to give it a try. Want simple straightforward tutorials though.

Thanks

 

[dirtyshawa]

I thought you were just using PBP and Sea Minerals? Your last post had guano and nitrozyme...

not trying to answer for dude, but, i asked if he could post a recipe and schedule with a 100% organic substitute for pbp.

 

[osirica420]

thanks for the info osirica420, it's very much appreciated.

okay, i have a few questions. i just bought the waterfarm 8-pack. as you probably know i have a single reservoir. how would i go about bubbling the nitrozime and sea minerals? can i cover and boil the solution and let it cool to room temp, then apply, i've done this with epson salt in soil and i could see my plants responding well to it? what brand of sea solids do you recommend? my last question is about the vegetative stage feeding schedule, if you look at your post i edited it to vaguely display a time frame, could you tell me if i'm correct? please, excuse the noobness, this is only my second grow and first hydro. thanks again for the info.

Yea you got it basically right...

You can bubble it in any container just put it in a dark place if you can

As for nute increase fro seeds i like to up it around the 2nd week..
The growth is very fast specially in a waterfarm..


tsp of sea minerals per gallon of water = 2000ppm

What is a "ph'd solution" that you are bubbling nitrozyme in?

I meant by that a bubbled ph monitored solution composed of nitrozyme and sea minerals...