Scrog help

[Bones]

hey all, i'm all setup and ready for another grow, but i can't decide on a strain - last time I grew sour bubble from clones i got from a friend but it got busted by my landlord so i had to get rid of the lot!!!!! =(
Couldn't find anyone to take my mothers at short notice so they had to go too!!!!!

Anyway this time I am starting from seed and don't have time or space to choose mothers and take clones so i am looking for a very uniform strain - preferably something indica dom. that would be well suited to SCROG. I dont have much height to spare so i also want something that wont stretch much in flowering.

If anyone could advise me on a few strains to consider it would be much appreciated. (P.s. I'm leaning towards feminized seeds cuz i dont have very much space/time to work with)

Thanks

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

Sounds like a mission to save you from the empty bud-jar blues Bones. Are you growing in the same place as last time, and if so, do you think it's a wise move, concidering your landlord?
However, if you're set on SCROGing, a strain that branches out well is preferable. That is generally not the case with short-growing Indicas. But, you can SCROG just about anything, including tomatoes, so why not?
Quality Indicas that I can recommend are White Rhino, Sensi Star and LUI, among others. If you go for pure-bred Indica, take some clone material from the lower part of the stem (that you trim off anyway) and hang on to your best branching female, for your next SCROG run.
Hybrids generally branch out better (it's a tendency, not a rule). A strain I would like to recommend that doesn't hit the roof is Blockhead. Any strain with Kush genetics and a dash of Skunk might work as well.
Know that clones from a plant that reached maturity will stretch less than a seeded plant (that's not an option for you since you're in a hurry), and your growroom factors should be adapted to reduce stretch. Lamp close to the canopy, low humidity/temps, high nute concentration, to get those buds as close to the grid as possible.
I've heard that decent Lowryder varieties now exists, but since the only Lowryder I ever tasted was a waste of time I cannot recommend it. Check it out though, since Lowryder is a plant made for growers with space-issues.
Finding any of these strains in feminized version might be tricky though, so perhaps I was of no help.

 

[Bones]

Rosy cheeks - Thanks for the reply, lowrider isn't a strain that i would consider first and foremost because from what ive seen it isn't quite what i'm looking for, blockhead sounds good but finding feminized seeds might be a problem!!

Thanks for the info on high nutrient contencentration reducing stretch, never knew that! Also the kush sounds promising because a friend of mine grew hindu kush in scrog with fairly good results.

Do you think that maybe i would be better off with something more of a 50/50 sativa/indica mix, and flowering when the plants hit the screen so the scrog screen takes up the stretch?? There are so many options with regards to strains and then which seed companies strain that i'm finding it hard to find out what's reliable enough for uniformity from seed.

Oh, and I've moved house since my last grow so as of yet no problems in with the landord, the new fan + filter should get rid of the problems i had last time so i think my chances are good of getting at least one decent grow start to finish.

Thanks for your help

 

[vonforne]

Grapefruit from female seeds. 25.00 and you will get a pack of 10 freebies with them

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

Yes, the 50/50 with an early flip might work, it really depends on the space you've got to work with.
I just remembered that I SCROGged Blueberry (DP) from seed and she stayed quite low (80% Indica). She branches out wonderfully with an early topping, and Dutch Passion sells her in fem version, so that might be an option. It's not a high yielding strain though, and she's fuzzy with nutes (I grew her with chemical nutes in hydro).
I also grew DP's Mazar from seed (no SCROG though), and that's about the shortest strain I ever grew, but I personally prefer the other Indicas that I mentioned in my first post.
If you switch from 18/6 to 12/12 successively over a week or two rather than flipping abruptly, you will also reduce the stretch somewhat.

 

[Bones]

thanks vonforne i'll look for info on grapefruit now

Rosycheeks - i've got about four feet from floor to bulb (400w hps) so i've got about a foot above the screen for buds - blueberry sounds nice as i'm planning on FIM'ing as early as I dare but the nutes thing worries me slightly as I dont have much experience with different plants and their different reactions to nute levels, but are u just saying mix everything up a bit light?? I was thinking about WW from GH because the 5 packs i saw were really cheap compared to some! I thought this would be a stable fairly high yeilding plant that was easy to grow, but looking at some of the posts suggests that this wouldn't be such a good idea, some people say it stretches quite a lot, and lots say GH seeds aren't worth bothering with!

I'll definately reduce the light cycle slowly if that will help too.

Cheers

P.s. do you know if the old OG strainbase is still around at all, as far as I can tell it's gone and I can't find a decent replacement

 

[Guest]

I agree with the above. Ive grown DPs Mazar and they are quite uniform in structure and do well in a scrog setup. Im currently growing FS Grapefruit and it would do great in scrog. Possibly also look into AK-47, I have seen some good scrogs with this plant as well.

Heres OG Strainguide:
http://www.hanflexikon.de/

gl

 

[Bones]

Thanks Indo - hadn't thought about ak47 but can check it all out now on strainguide.
Got a lot of reading to do now!!
Thanks for the help everyone, i'll let you know what i decide =)

 

[the cult]

id say DPs mazar as well, you can get them feminized which you cannot with AK-47, mazar is good looking (smelly!) indica and mine even had some blue traces at peak of flowering, but i heard it got some blueberry traits! very nice one i can recommend it, and its a heavy smoke too

 

[ethereal]

www.devilsharvest.com has a strainbase

 

[Bones]

Ethereal - link doesn't work for some reason! It's ok tho, ive gone on OG strainguide and i think iv'e decided on the Feminised seeds Grapefruit. Bit of a u-turn because I was going for indica originally!!

I've never grown a sativa dom. plant before, but I think if I put it into 12/12 after about a week of germination then they hopefully will stop stretching by the time the screen is filled.
Am I right in thinking that this will reduce the height because they will have less light to veg , and they will b forced to flower at the earliest possible opportunity?
I'm a bit worried that less light in the veg period will only force it to stretch MORE by looking for light.

If anyone else has grown from seed and put into 12/12 after about a week or less, I'd be interested to know what effects it has on the plant and its height.

Thanks

 

[Guest]

I thought that GF was supposed to stretch out of control also but it wasnt as bad as I thought. One of my plants did stretch about 1.5 feet once flower was induced. But the other only grew about 6 inches. It really depends on how much room you have to deal with. For a 2'x2' screen I would veg for about 2 weeks then switch. This should keep them small enough to stay within the screen but big enough to get a decent yield.

 

[ethereal]

the link works fine.

 

[vonforne]

I'am growing the Grapefruit now and she BRANCHES like a mad man. Have two that are flowering earlier than the other two. I have one that clones like mad (she is the fastest flowering one also) I'm not a scroger but a JOG'er I have a 9 foot cieling. Just let her veg for a month or two to prevent her from going hermie. Refer to post done by Mr. wags in Organic Hydro or Female seeds test grow. He grows the bomb buds with the Female seeds. He is also the moderator for Female.

Good luck Von

 

[Bones]

Ethereal, yeah it's working now - dunno why it didn't work before!! Thanks

Indo - my screens around 25 x 40 inches so i'll try two weeks or maybe a day or two longer.

Vonforne - I'll check out the posts u mentioned, try to get an idea exactly what I'm dealing with and get a standard to aspire to!! Nice to know she branches well - that should make training a bit easier

Thanks for all the help guys - feeling a lot more confident that i've made a good decision now!