Sativa Help! Pics Included...

[311grower]

Hello all...Im growing 3 of the following plants:

I've only grown sativa once before, and it failed miserably...I let it grow too long and it didn't have any potency...and im noticing the same with this plant....The terrible thing is I have no idea how old this plant is, It was given to me when it had already started flowering...a friend had to take his room down temporarily...

I grow under a 400w HPS in a small cabinet grow (hence why plants are trained as they are) The indica plants I grow turn out beautiful-but I can never tell when these sativas are done. They are THICK and the hairs are turning amber colored, but there are little-to no trichs on this plant. It gets all the same nutes (fox farm 3 pack) as my indica plants...but still nothing...


can anyone lend me some advice?? What am I doing wrong? Or am I just being impatient??

Much love, More Respect.
311-grower.

 

[311grower]

anyone??


another question....should I trim some of those leaves off the buds?

 

[greekguy]

i dont understand that thing about potency and long plants...

for me the only thing that can damage ur plants potency is lack of light explosion

place ur lamp close nough- feed em well- water them as required- and ventilate em enough

ur set to go-
ive personally noticed that the furthest from the lamp the less-smaller the trichromes the closer part of the plant in the lamp, the more the "frost"

how much % of the heairs a re amber(dry) ?

 

[311grower]

i'd say the hairs are about 50-70% amber.....and the light is close to the plant (probably about 8-12 inches away....any closer and i think they'd burn...

 

[58FLH]

Take a sample and try it

 

[greekguy]

how many grows on the lamp?

what nutes do u use?

if anything else is ok i guess its just a shitty strain-BUT I STRONGLY DOUBT THERE ISSMTH LIKE AN SHITTY STRAIN....

HAVE you thought of mounting tha lamp vertically on em?(not above but on side?)

i think by the shape they have u ll have far better results(but not if ur choping in a week -ucan try it though)

if 50-70% are amber ur less than a week to chop if im not mistaken
(BUT ASK SMBD ELSE ABOUT THAT AS IM NOT EXPERT ENOUGH TO TELL YOU WHEN TO CHOP...)

 

[chubbynugs]

I wanna say if there is no trich production yet you still have a while to go. A lot of sativas dont start giving up the frostiness until they are getting to the end of their life cycle. That is why most people mess up growing sativas they chop them too early and then think the premature weed is kinda leafy and not all that great. There are some long flowering sativas out there 100-150 day strains. You might have one of those.

 

[Macster2]

Do not trim your leaves

 

[Macster2]

And if your 60% amber you can harvest anytime you want depending on the stone you want

 

[chubbynugs]

And if your 60% amber you can harvest anytime you want depending on the stone you want

he said the hairs are turning colors not the trichomes. Please do not cut your plants based off the colors of hairs on the plant.

 

[Dr Dog]

he said the hairs are turning colors not the trichomes. Please do not cut your plants based off the colors of hairs on the plant.

I completely agree, do not look at the hairs at all, they will start to turn color at about 4 weeks old, you need to examine the trics, once they are turning amber, then your plant is ready. Sat's take about 10 weeks or longer to mature properly

 

[gladysvjubb]

Water with H2O and molasses only for the next 2.5 weeks. It should be ripe or close to it at that time.

 

[311grower]

I gave it some molasses and water....Im hoping it starts to crystal out....seems like such a waste i hope that it turns out OK. I do great with indica strains.....here's some Jack Herer I grew...

 

[311grower]

wow...guess that photo is a bit blurry...

 

[Smoking Gun]

I know this has been said already, but you must be patient. Sativa's take time, but that time is worth it. With Sativa's, you need to harvest them when they are just about ready to die on their own. The hairs really are not a good indication of when a Sativa is ready. You have to be keeping a close eye on the trichomes themselves. Get a high ratio magnifying glass or hand held microscope to check out the trichome production. When around 60% of your trichomes are amber in color, your plants are ready to chop. Like I said its all about patience with Sativa's.

Also Jack Herer has a good amount of Sativa genetics in there. So I am not really sure why you have had poor luck with other Sativa strains. You say you are feeding them the same as the Indica plants, maybe you shouldn't. Remember every plant needs its own ratio of nutrients, so be careful about that. But it does seem like you are in the final stages of this plants life, so I would cut back on the nutes, start your flushes and have some patience.

 

[DiscoDuck]

Here's an unknown strain of sativa, chopped at 91 days. the trichs are about 90% cloudy, 5% amber, 5% clear. I wanted to let this one go until I got more amber but I must have acquired a deficiency, all the fans died. I was afraid to let it continue and get worse so I gave it the chop.




Do you have a strong magnifying glass or a microscope? You can look at the color of the trichs and figure out how ready you want it to be:

lots of cloudy trichs = head high, sometimes speedy

lots of amber trichs = body stone

chubbynugs is right about the color of hairs, most of the hairs turned red before the trichs even began to get cloudy on this plant.

Good luck!

 

[311grower]

Sounds good...I do have a hand microscope-the trics are clear...I'll keep my eyes on them....

 

[Smoking Gun]

Here's an unknown strain of sativa, chopped at 91 days. the trichs are about 90% cloudy, 5% amber, 5% clear. I wanted to let this one go until I got more amber but I must have acquired a deficiency, all the fans died. I was afraid to let it continue and get worse so I gave it the chop.




Do you have a strong magnifying glass or a microscope? You can look at the color of the trichs and figure out how ready you want it to be:

lots of cloudy trichs = head high, sometimes speedy

lots of amber trichs = body stone

chubbynugs is right about the color of hairs, most of the hairs turned red before the trichs even began to get cloudy on this plant.

Good luck!

Actually having those fan leaves die is a good sign. It means there is no more fresh nitrogen getting to them, so their production of chlorophyll has ceased. So long as the buds themselves didn't start to die, you were doing everything right. I hate seeing these neon green buds, I want them to be an olive khaki color. This color is a sigh of a proper flush and cure.

Sorry to get off topic. Also, great advice on the maturity of the trichomes and their effects.

 

[311grower]

Actually having those fan leaves die is a good sign. It means there is no more fresh nitrogen getting to them, so their production of chlorophyll has ceased. So long as the buds themselves didn't start to die, you were doing everything right. I hate seeing these neon green buds, I want them to be an olive khaki color. This color is a sigh of a proper flush and cure.

Sorry to get off topic. Also, great advice on the maturity of the trichomes and their effects.

Excellent-thats for the heads up....I guess they just need to go longer...

Problem is I don't know how old they are....He gave them too me already flowering-and then they got a bit of shock from the move...and now my space is kind of crowded because of them....Im not used to growing sativas because I grow in a small space.


I gave them molasses and water which was recommended earlier. Im going to continue that every other weak until the fan leaves start to wither and fall off....this is definitely a stressful experience...

I've got a white widow going right now that is starting to take off nicely too no pics of that one yet...

 

[311grower]

Here's an unknown strain of sativa, chopped at 91 days. the trichs are about 90% cloudy, 5% amber, 5% clear. I wanted to let this one go until I got more amber but I must have acquired a deficiency, all the fans died. I was afraid to let it continue and get worse so I gave it the chop.




Do you have a strong magnifying glass or a microscope? You can look at the color of the trichs and figure out how ready you want it to be:

lots of cloudy trichs = head high, sometimes speedy

lots of amber trichs = body stone

chubbynugs is right about the color of hairs, most of the hairs turned red before the trichs even began to get cloudy on this plant.

Good luck!

excellent, that is definitely reassuring!! I have a handheld microscope so I can get a good look at the trics, i guess im just stressing. I don't normally grow straight sativa strains cuz i grow in a height limited place...I usually LST and get nice bushy plants of nothing but good thick nugs like this...

I have no idea what kind this was-it was a cutting i got from a friend, sed he didn't know what it was, but to try it out.....it was amazing..