If it wasn't Sam himself, that gave me the info it was someone in the tight circle, so i am sure we do it the same way.
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I figure I get 7-15% depending on how good the kief is. I mainly tumble trim with some water leaf still in it. A 10 min or less tumble for #1 20 to 30 min for #2.
DrySiftWizard
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The dehumidifier is important to the process. How? Can't say.
No machines, appliances, moving parts. They're not floating.. but if you knew what I was doing you might say that.
No static charge.
i dont think he was using butane, its pretty benign, not cancer causing. a lot of other solvents shouldnt be handled without appropriate safety measures though.
DrySiftWizard
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Soo.. this isn't even on par with Sam, right? And the fact that this took less than one minute matters not.. it's not cleaned up at all.
And I have not seen anything you've posted of your own product.. not in this section anyways. If you've still got them.. throw them on up here.
To be honest.. I have seen the 'cropped' shots of Sams stuff from b.man and they all contain specs of contaminant as well.
If you want a shot of 20 isolated heads.. that's not hard.
Edit: No static involved in the process whatsoever.
webguy
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Is it one of these frequency plates? Makes you nice little purified keif piles. Start a lottery, the correct answer gets one of the first production models.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedgubRZva8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedgubRZva8
DrySiftWizard
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Not even close.
As for Sams yield being so low.. I can't explain why. Kinda sucks, though.
i think he is using air pressure.
first a normal sift is done, then the frame with the screen is put down on the area where the dry sift landed, covering the resin.
the foam strips are suck all around the frame so the screen doesn't touch the dry sift.
then you cover the top part of the frame. in the end you have the resin on the table with the screen over it leaving a nice air pocket. on top of the screen you also create an air pocket. so you have table resin few cms of space, screen, again a few cms of space, then a cover.
then you get a pressurized air hose and blow it into the bottom space, causing all the dry sift to get blown around and the nice round trich heads stay in the bottom compartment while the particles and some trich heads will end up on top, the theory being that the dust is lighter then the trichs.
maybe the dehumidifier is to just keep the working area incredibly dry.
or maybe the actual trim is put in the bottom compartment and the air is blown in to gently help loosen the trich heads, but that doesn't explain ending up with 2 qualities at once. also possible that the initial sifting is done with the trim on top and the air blown in under the cover. although really dry trim will break up fast like that it would seem.
can anyone show me the kind of electric flour machine you are talking about to make hash. i googled and all i got was a bunch of flour mills that just grind what ever you put in.
first a normal sift is done, then the frame with the screen is put down on the area where the dry sift landed, covering the resin.
the foam strips are suck all around the frame so the screen doesn't touch the dry sift.
then you cover the top part of the frame. in the end you have the resin on the table with the screen over it leaving a nice air pocket. on top of the screen you also create an air pocket. so you have table resin few cms of space, screen, again a few cms of space, then a cover.
then you get a pressurized air hose and blow it into the bottom space, causing all the dry sift to get blown around and the nice round trich heads stay in the bottom compartment while the particles and some trich heads will end up on top, the theory being that the dust is lighter then the trichs.
maybe the dehumidifier is to just keep the working area incredibly dry.
or maybe the actual trim is put in the bottom compartment and the air is blown in to gently help loosen the trich heads, but that doesn't explain ending up with 2 qualities at once. also possible that the initial sifting is done with the trim on top and the air blown in under the cover. although really dry trim will break up fast like that it would seem.
can anyone show me the kind of electric flour machine you are talking about to make hash. i googled and all i got was a bunch of flour mills that just grind what ever you put in.
Maybe Sam is getting 1% of the total plant material wt. to make the kief & refine that into the melt. This has been done for thousands of years, the best was Shirak. So it can be done without any power as long as you live where the conditions are right. For me the best conditions are: cold around 30-40 degrees not freezing, very dry trim to tumble, collect kief Refine at 30-40 degrees 20& humidity. The only elec involved is to run the tumbler. Yes this should get people trying it is nothing more than separating what you want from what you don't want...
DrySiftWizard
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In my experience, weather really doesn't matter. It's been over 100* here for weeks on end at points, and i've done it at night when the outside air is still around 75 ish.. and warmer inside.
Yesterday, that stuff I posted that was made from seeds.. I think I mentioned it was around 75 as well.. had a fire going inside at one point.
Obviously it helps to be in a cooler climate, but with the method i'm working with, it's really not *that* big of a deal.. as long as it's 'cool' it'll work. Anything over 75* though and I likely won't bother.. not to say it can't be done.. but it starts to get sweaty..it's simple, still a little work though.
Gauis - no air pressure. Like I said, zero machines, electricity, tumbling, static, etc.
But you're right.. some new ideas will come of this. You should try the one you described and let us know, haha. Sounds curious.
DrySiftWizard
Member
Nope, no static. In fact, static sucks. I try to avoid it at all costs.
You guys are probably going nuts trying to think up ideas lol.
DrySiftWizard
Member
Nevermind.
Shrug.
Shrug.
yeah i am going nuts trying to think of a way to make 1 screen make 2 qualities at once, lol.
btw you did say the dehumidifier is part of it, so you do use at least 1 machine?
also seems from what i've read that the foam strips do go around the edges of the screen.
61 lpi seems really big too, isn't that like a 250u size?
also seems from what i've read that the foam strips do go around the edges of the screen.
61 lpi seems really big too, isn't that like a 250u size?
he didn't say only one screen he said only one drop. I think he uses gravity and somehow drops the resin onto a couple of screens with foam around the edges, In Set conditions, somehow utalizing a dehumidifier?
Mack.
Edit to add; ~This Thread has set my mind ablaze...
I want that golden sift,
Mack.
Edit to add; ~This Thread has set my mind ablaze...
I want that golden sift,
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DrySiftWizard
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The de-hu is just to get the trim dry. Nothing to do with the process...
61 lpi is huge. Makes ya think, huh?
That's what I want. Already seen some great ideas in this and other threads.
I have looked at a few other sites.. nobody is doing this.. nobody.
Maybe I should just release this info? Hmm.
DrySiftWizard
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Conditions aren't such an issue.. like I said, I have done this.. just did with the seeded stuff.. in a warm area.. it's not a huge deal.
Doesn't help, but isn't such a huge problem where you can't do it.
